DIYAPASON-L Digest #201 - Thursday, December 7, 2000
 
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Caution Re:[Residence	Organs]RE:	 questionsab
  by "Blaine Ricketts" <blaineri@home.com>
Re: Captain's Galley Redwood City still going.........
  by <TheGluePot@aol.com>
Fw: [Residence Organs]  Re: Captain's Galley Redwood City stillgoing.....
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Caution Re:[Residence	Organs]RE:	  questionsa
  by "Jon" <sparky@chesco.com>
Hello everyone
  by "Alwyn V. H. Farey-Jones" <avhfj@direcpc.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Hello everyone
  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Caution Re:[Residence Organs]RE:   questionsa
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Hello everyone
  by <Pipewheezr@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Hello everyone
  by "Alwyn V. H. Farey-Jones" <avhfj@direcpc.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Caution Re:[Residence Organs]RE: 	questionsab
  by "Jon Calvo" <jcalvo@mail.state.tn.us>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Caution Re:[Residence Organs]RE: questionsabo
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Caution Re:[Residence	Organs]RE:questionsabou
  by "Jon Calvo" <jcalvo@mail.state.tn.us>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Hello everyone, and basement pipes...
  by "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Caution Re:[Residence Organs]RE:questionsabou
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Basement organ chambers
  by "Larry Chace" <rlc1@etnainstruments.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Caution	Re:[ResidenceOrgans]RE:questionsabout
  by "Jon Calvo" <jcalvo@mail.state.tn.us>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Caution	Re:[ResidenceOrgans]RE:questionsabout
  by "Jon Calvo" <jcalvo@mail.state.tn.us>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Caution Re:[ResidenceOrgans]RE:questionsabout
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re:	CautionRe:[ResidenceOrgans]RE:questionsabout.
  by "Jon Calvo" <jcalvo@mail.state.tn.us>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Caution Re:[Residence Organs]RE: questionsabout windchest/console wiring From: "Blaine Ricketts" <blaineri@home.com> Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 23:34:56 -0800   The Durst rectifier is the problem. It is a transformer and two filter = chokes and a capacitor and bleed resistor. The filtering is ok but absolutely no voltage regulation. They were made for electro pneumatic organs which are = not very voltage sensitive. Make sure you are getting a measured 15 volts out = of the Durst unit but don't go any higher or you could over heat some coils = that are on with little or nothing being played and the voltage will make a few = coils run hot untill you use a higher amount of current. You need an Orgalectra, Basler or Astron rectifier to keep the voltage = constant under any load to the maximum stated on the output of the rectifier. In what part of the country are you located? The Wicks web site sometimes has good used rectifiers for sale. I have = some here but they are heavy. I use the old Durst rectifiers for battery = chargers or on smaller organs where there is not a large current draw.   Blaine Ricketts Castro valley, CA   Jon Calvo wrote: > > ** For Your Eyes Only ** > ** High Priority ** > > it is a Durst older rectifier and console and the wicks combination = action was put in as an after thought there are 46 stops on the stop rail > > >>> blaineri@home.com 12/06/00 10:42AM >>> > If you are using an electric drawknob or tab Console and a Wicks remote > combination action, you need the voltages mentioned below. These need = to be > verified with a volt meter at the remote combination while pushing a = piston. > You can have a rectifier on some specific voltage tap but depending on = the > rectifier and the line voltage, you might not have the voltage you want. > Likewise, if the rectifier is not located next to the combination action = you > could get a voltage drop in your DC feed cables unless you are using a = large > gauge wire. Ohms Law and an electric code handbook to look up the = resistance of > various sizes of wire per hundred feet is very handy. > > What kind of rectifier are you using? What is the continuous and = intermittent > current capacity? > How many electric stop controls are there in your console. Most of = these units > draw 1/2 amp each. Is the organ also a Wicks or something with a direct > electric style magnet? > > When thing get sluggish and you are using electric action, measure the = voltage > first. > > Blaine Ricketts > > Jon Calvo wrote: > > > > ** For Your Eyes Only ** > > ** High Priority ** > > > > Blaine I think the setting I have it on is either 12 or 13 volts would = this case the combination to be sluggish > > > > >>> blaineri@home.com 12/06/00 01:51AM >>> > > What is the DC voltage at the main terminals to the combination unit? = This > > should not > > go down more than one volt with maximum load. If it uses transistors = to fire > > the pistons, > > the voltage will need to be 14.75 volts. If no transistors are used = then 13.5 > > volts should work. > > > > Blaine Ricketts > > > > Jon Calvo wrote: > > > > > > ** For Your Eyes Only ** > > > ** High Priority ** > > > > > > Hey Guys > > > Question for anyone I have a Wicks remote Combination action on my = organ and the combination action will not change and when it dose it is = sluggish 2nd problem it won't hold a setting who would be willing to = advise me as to the remedy this problem , has anyone herd of this = happening before > > > thanks > > > john > > >  
(back) Subject: Re: Captain's Galley Redwood City still going......... From: <TheGluePot@aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 03:47:01 EST   > Is the Capn's Galley Pizza Parlour still there in Redwood City, Ca.? > I had an album by Jack Gustavson playing the 4m -something Wurli there. > Thanks, > Rick >>   I am not Mr. Terry; but, yes it is still there.   Al Sefl  
(back) Subject: Fw: [Residence Organs] Re: Captain's Galley Redwood City stillgoing......... From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 06:59:18 -0500   Glad to hear Capn's Galley is still around. Pizza organs are becoming scarcerer and scarcerer. :-)   Rick     ----- Original Message ----- From: <TheGluePot@aol.com> To: <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 3:47 AM Subject: [Residence Organs] Re: Captain's Galley Redwood City stillgoing.........     > > Is the Capn's Galley Pizza Parlour still there in Redwood City, = Ca.? > > I had an album by Jack Gustavson playing the 4m -something Wurli = there. > > Thanks, > > Rick > >> > > I am not Mr. Terry; but, yes it is still there. > > Al Sefl > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > Residence Pipe Organs. > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Caution Re:[Residence Organs]RE: questionsabout windchest/console wiring From: "Jon" <sparky@chesco.com> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 10:00:32 -0500   After experiencing similar problems on my organ, I have discovered the cause (this was months ago) to be wire too small run between the rectifier and the console (or in your case the combo action). I replaced it with = AWG 10 and it works fine   jon   >The Durst rectifier is the problem. It is a transformer and two filter = chokes >and a capacitor and bleed resistor. The filtering is ok but absolutely = no >voltage regulation. They were made for electro pneumatic organs which = are not >very voltage sensitive. Make sure you are getting a measured 15 volts = out of >the Durst unit but don't go any higher or you could over heat some coils = that >are on with little or nothing being played and the voltage will make a = few >coils >run hot untill you use a higher amount of current. >You need an Orgalectra, Basler or Astron rectifier to keep the voltage >constant >under any load to the maximum stated on the output of the rectifier. >In what part of the country are you located? >The Wicks web site sometimes has good used rectifiers for sale. I have = some >here but they are heavy. I use the old Durst rectifiers for battery >chargers or >on smaller organs where there is not a large current draw. > >Blaine Ricketts >Castro valley, CA > >Jon Calvo wrote: >> >> ** For Your Eyes Only ** >> ** High Priority ** >> >> it is a Durst older rectifier and console and the wicks combination >>action was put in as an after thought there are 46 stops on the stop = rail >> >> >>> blaineri@home.com 12/06/00 10:42AM >>> >> If you are using an electric drawknob or tab Console and a Wicks remote >> combination action, you need the voltages mentioned below. These need = to be >> verified with a volt meter at the remote combination while pushing a = piston. >> You can have a rectifier on some specific voltage tap but depending on = the >> rectifier and the line voltage, you might not have the voltage you = want. >> Likewise, if the rectifier is not located next to the combination = action you >> could get a voltage drop in your DC feed cables unless you are using a >>large >> gauge wire. Ohms Law and an electric code handbook to look up the >>resistance of >> various sizes of wire per hundred feet is very handy. >> >> What kind of rectifier are you using? What is the continuous and >>intermittent >> current capacity? >> How many electric stop controls are there in your console. Most of >>these units >> draw 1/2 amp each. Is the organ also a Wicks or something with a = direct >> electric style magnet? >> >> When thing get sluggish and you are using electric action, measure the >>voltage >> first. >> >> Blaine Ricketts >> >> Jon Calvo wrote: >> > >> > ** For Your Eyes Only ** >> > ** High Priority ** >> > >> > Blaine I think the setting I have it on is either 12 or 13 volts = would >>this case the combination to be sluggish >> > >> > >>> blaineri@home.com 12/06/00 01:51AM >>> >> > What is the DC voltage at the main terminals to the combination unit? >>This >> > should not >> > go down more than one volt with maximum load. If it uses transistors >>to fire >> > the pistons, >> > the voltage will need to be 14.75 volts. If no transistors are used >>then 13.5 >> > volts should work. >> > >> > Blaine Ricketts >> > >> > Jon Calvo wrote: >> > > >> > > ** For Your Eyes Only ** >> > > ** High Priority ** >> > > >> > > Hey Guys >> > > Question for anyone I have a Wicks remote Combination action on my >>organ and the combination action will not change and when it dose it is >>sluggish 2nd problem it won't hold a setting who would be willing to >>advise me as to the remedy this problem , has anyone herd of this >>happening before >> > > thanks >> > > john >> > > > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Hello everyone From: "Alwyn V. H. Farey-Jones" <avhfj@direcpc.com> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 09:57:12 -0500   >From: David Scribner david@blackiris.com   >Over the last several months we have had a good number of people join us. I invite them to send an introduction to the list telling about themselves and their projects.   Hello everyone:   I played the organ as a kid, but gave it up when I changed schools at = about age 13. Nowadays i play the piano a little. Every few months I play the piano a lot.   My stepson, who has become very successful, wants to give his mother a swimming pool and a pool house. I've managed to persuade every one that = the pool house should have a basement and that I be allowed to put a pipe = organ in it, with the console on the first floor. The organ would play up = through sound chutes. I'm afraid I failed to persuade the decision makers that organ pipes would look really cool in the main first floor room.   So now I'm looking for an organ to put there.   There is about 800 sq. ft. of space in the basement, but I don't think I = can lay claim to more than about 200 sq. ft. without major problems with my marriage. My wife says she will divorce me if my organ grows too large.   I'd really like to have three manuals, if I can find one. May be a I = could cram in a 3/18 or so. Does anyeone know of a suitable instrument available? I live in Long Island, NY. I've been advised that I should really try and find an instrument which is still capable of being played = and which is within a days drive.   Ideas would be very much appreciated.   Best wishes, . . . . . . . . . . . . Alwyn F Jones    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Hello everyone From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 09:38:10 +0000   I would rethink the prospect of putting an organ chamber in the basement next to a swimming pool. Extend the building enough to put the organ chamber above ground and not run the risk of a flooded organ chamber. My chamber is below ground and I have constant anxiety about heavy rain = storms and whether both sump pumps will do their job.   jch   At 09:57 AM 12/07/2000 -0500, you wrote: > >From: David Scribner david@blackiris.com > > >Over the last several months we have had a good >number of people join us. I invite them to send an >introduction to the list telling about themselves and >their projects. > >Hello everyone: > >I played the organ as a kid, but gave it up when I changed schools at = about >age 13. Nowadays i play the piano a little. Every few months I play the >piano a lot. > >My stepson, who has become very successful, wants to give his mother a >swimming pool and a pool house. I've managed to persuade every one that = the >pool house should have a basement and that I be allowed to put a pipe = organ >in it, with the console on the first floor. The organ would play up = through >sound chutes. I'm afraid I failed to persuade the decision makers that >organ pipes would look really cool in the main first floor room. > >So now I'm looking for an organ to put there. > >There is about 800 sq. ft. of space in the basement, but I don't think I = can >lay claim to more than about 200 sq. ft. without major problems with my >marriage. My wife says she will divorce me if my organ grows too large. > >I'd really like to have three manuals, if I can find one. May be a I = could >cram in a 3/18 or so. Does anyeone know of a suitable instrument >available? I live in Long Island, NY. I've been advised that I should >really try and find an instrument which is still capable of being played = and >which is within a days drive. > >Ideas would be very much appreciated. > >Best wishes, . . . . . . . . . . . . Alwyn F Jones > > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Caution Re:[Residence Organs]RE: questionsabout... From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 10:50:27 EST   errrrr--- Regarding the older Durst type rectifier supplies---is my thinking flawed that these rectifiers, made by many companies from what I have seen, did = not exist when the Wicks type combination action did? Or somehow, in this = thread, has the type of combination action in question changed to something = brandly new, and contains solid state components? Enlighten me please,, I am = getting lost. Thanks, ---Roc L V Rockafellow  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Hello everyone From: <Pipewheezr@aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 10:55:57 EST     --part1_11.cbadb83.27610d0d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hello all, another problem with below grade structures is sealing the concrete block so it does not "seep" water from the out side. Have fun today. Dennis Allen   --part1_11.cbadb83.27610d0d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hello all, another = problem with below grade structures is sealing the <BR>concrete block so = it does not "seep" water from the out side. <BR>Have fun today. <BR>Dennis Allen</FONT></HTML>   --part1_11.cbadb83.27610d0d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Hello everyone From: "Alwyn V. H. Farey-Jones" <avhfj@direcpc.com> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 11:27:08 -0500   Thanx - I hear you. Unfortunately, I don't think that plan will fly with the decision makers! Our architect assures me (!) that, with modern materials and techniques, I shouldn't have a problem. I think it's the basement or nothing.   Best wishes, . . . . Alwyn Jones   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@catoe.org> To: "Residence Organ List" <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 4:38 AM Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Hello everyone     > I would rethink the prospect of putting an organ chamber in the basement > next to a swimming pool. Extend the building enough to put the organ > chamber above ground and not run the risk of a flooded organ chamber. My > chamber is below ground and I have constant anxiety about heavy rain storms > and whether both sump pumps will do their job. > > jch > > At 09:57 AM 12/07/2000 -0500, you wrote: > > >From: David Scribner david@blackiris.com > > > > >Over the last several months we have had a good > >number of people join us. I invite them to send an > >introduction to the list telling about themselves and > >their projects. > > > >Hello everyone: > > > >I played the organ as a kid, but gave it up when I changed schools at about > >age 13. Nowadays i play the piano a little. Every few months I play = the > >piano a lot. > > > >My stepson, who has become very successful, wants to give his mother a > >swimming pool and a pool house. I've managed to persuade every one = that the > >pool house should have a basement and that I be allowed to put a pipe organ > >in it, with the console on the first floor. The organ would play up through > >sound chutes. I'm afraid I failed to persuade the decision makers that > >organ pipes would look really cool in the main first floor room. > > > >So now I'm looking for an organ to put there. > > > >There is about 800 sq. ft. of space in the basement, but I don't think = I can > >lay claim to more than about 200 sq. ft. without major problems with my > >marriage. My wife says she will divorce me if my organ grows too = large. > > > >I'd really like to have three manuals, if I can find one. May be a I could > >cram in a 3/18 or so. Does anyeone know of a suitable instrument > >available? I live in Long Island, NY. I've been advised that I should > >really try and find an instrument which is still capable of being = played and > >which is within a days drive. > > > >Ideas would be very much appreciated. > > > >Best wishes, . . . . . . . . . . . . Alwyn F Jones > > > > > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > >Residence Pipe Organs. > >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > Residence Pipe Organs. > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Caution Re:[Residence Organs]RE: questionsabout... From: "Jon Calvo" <jcalvo@mail.state.tn.us> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 10:51:33 -0600   ** For Your Eyes Only ** ** High Priority **   the Combination action in Question is a Wicks remote with all wicks = switching=20 for the tabs , But in an Austin Style console this is were the problem = might be , I was discussing with someone recently , and brought to my mind = that the organs original rectifier was built for a 2 to 5 rank organ the = organ in now 5 ranks soon to be 6 how ever this is one of the Durst = rectifiers out of Ere Pa. it is the double phase adjustable voltage if what I was told is true that = there needs to be a =BD volt per stop than half of 46 is 23 volts this = would tell me the rectifier may be straining to work I think it is a 15 = volt , I am going to have to get a new rectifier it sound like , if I = believe that I might be as well to put the generator back on this organ = and see if that runs the Combination action , back to another question on = the inside of the rectifier Volts and amps are both adjustable one will go = up to 30 and one 15 dose anyone know which of these would make the = difference , these simple things get me so confused , some one explain = this to me in simple English , because if that commination action needs 23 = volt to run or is it amps which one do I need to pay tensions to or would = a generator work better than this rectifier I have an old generator , = opinion please ' Guys "=20       >>> GRSCoLVR@aol.com 12/07/00 09:50AM >>> errrrr--- Regarding the older Durst type rectifier supplies---is my thinking = flawed=20 that these rectifiers, made by many companies from what I have seen, did = not=20 exist when the Wicks type combination action did? Or somehow, in this = thread,=20 has the type of combination action in question changed to something = brandly=20 new, and contains solid state components? Enlighten me please,, I am = getting=20 lost.=20 Thanks,=20 ---Roc=20 L V Rockafellow=20   DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own=20 Residence Pipe Organs. HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org=20 List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org=20 Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org=20      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Caution Re:[Residence Organs]RE: questionsabout... From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:12:00 EST   Jon-- IS the console actually an Austin console complete with all the factory installed combination action,,,just like it was when the guys from = Hartford CT booted it out the door. IF so,,,,the combination action should ALL be = in the console from what I know, or are you saying that the combination = action that was originally Austin has been removed and replaced by a Wicks remote =   action? Let us know the answer to this question and perhaps we can then = move along and get you up and running. Thanks, ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Caution Re:[Residence Organs]RE:questionsabout... From: "Jon Calvo" <jcalvo@mail.state.tn.us> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 11:19:45 -0600   ** For Your Eyes Only ** ** High Priority **   let me answer your question like this the console looks like an Austin = even has an Iron frame how ever I cannot find an opus number Robert Laws = originally put this organ together and from what I have found out both = laws and Austin were or are not fond of each other so it could be a = console that Austin Made with out an opus number , I bought this wicks = combination action from Roger Colby several years ago a friend of mine and = I installed it like it was to go in , it is just the thing is so slow and = sluggunsh=20 dose this clear up what I have=20       >>> GRSCoLVR@aol.com 12/07/00 11:12AM >>> Jon-- IS the console actually an Austin console complete with all the factory=20 installed combination action,,,just like it was when the guys from = Hartford=20 CT booted it out the door. IF so,,,,the combination action should ALL be = in=20 the console from what I know, or are you saying that the combination = action=20 that was originally Austin has been removed and replaced by a Wicks = remote=20 action? Let us know the answer to this question and perhaps we can then = move=20 along and get you up and running.=20 Thanks,=20 ---Roc=20   DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own=20 Residence Pipe Organs. HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org=20 List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org=20 Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org=20      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Hello everyone, and basement pipes... From: "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 09:19:50 -0800   I'd suggest digging a sump, and installing a pair of pumps in the sump, so that any water which does get into the chamber is drained into the sump, then pumped out. A battery-driven backup pump isn't a bad idea either, if your area is anything like mine re: power outages.   At 11:27 12/07/2000 -0500, Alwyn V. H. Farey-Jones wrote: >Thanx - I hear you. Unfortunately, I don't think that plan will fly with >the decision makers! Our architect assures me (!) that, with modern >materials and techniques, I shouldn't have a problem. I think it's the >basement or nothing.     Regards, Bob, in beautiful Lake County, California, USA NAWCC 140818 http://www.jps.net/rrloesch alternate mailto:cuckoobob@eudoramail.com    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Caution Re:[Residence Organs]RE:questionsabout... From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:27:46 EST   Jon--- Does your console,,,,when you take off the top, have a large round thing = with a shiny rod inside it and wires coming out of it on the top of the first stuff that you see inside? ---roc  
(back) Subject: Basement organ chambers From: "Larry Chace" <rlc1@etnainstruments.com> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 12:33:32 -0500   "Alwyn V. H. Farey-Jones" <avhfj@direcpc.com> asked about basement organ chambers (and I've changed the Subject: field to match).   Faced with a similar problem (no space "above ground"), we built a small addition to our dining room and included a basement organ chamber. It was =   done using several lines of defense against water intrusion, including poured concrete walls (within plastic foam insulating forms), rubber membranes on the outside, drainage fabric outside that, footer drains, membranes running under the poured concrete floor, and so on. The nearby creek is about 20 feet down, suggesting that the water table, too, was = well below the floor.   Unfortunately, we did encounter a minor vein of gravel during excavation, and the short story is that the vein carries water during the spring thaw here in upstate New York. The basement has gotten water, seeping in = around the base of the walls, but it is conveyed into the sump via gutters that I =   had cast into the floor perimeter and the sump pump expels it.   Still, it was a terrible disappointment the first spring when water appeared, and it will always remain a headache. The one rank of pipework presently in the chamber (and working, including from the MIDI record/playback system) will provide a good test this spring. We all know =   how water is strongly attracted to pipe organ components!   Long Island, where Alwyn is located, tends to have sandy soils, suggesting =   good drainage. Sloping properties are better, in the sense that you can use Nature to help route the water away from important things like organ chambers, but Long Island isn't really noted for its slopes! (On the = other hand, we're talking about small areas of land and he might well have = enough of a slope that he can keep water away.)   Still, the very best advice has already been given -- keep the organ above =   ground! If you can't, then assume that you'll get some amount of water in =   the chamber and provide for ways to collect it and get rid of it. Keep electrical things away from the floor (my outlets are all above ground level, most of them being in the chamber *ceiling*!). Have an early warning system. Have a back-up pumping system. Worry a lot.   Larry Chace    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Caution Re:[ResidenceOrgans]RE:questionsabout... From: "Jon Calvo" <jcalvo@mail.state.tn.us> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 11:32:36 -0600   ** For Your Eyes Only ** ** High Priority **   no it dose not you re talking about one of the old solenoid tripper type = of actions this is all wicks , when you remove the top all wicks switching = or whaer you call the thing that moves the tabs       >>> GRSCoLVR@aol.com 12/07/00 11:27AM >>> Jon--- Does your console,,,,when you take off the top, have a large round thing = with=20 a shiny rod inside it and wires coming out of it on the top of the = first=20 stuff that you see inside?=20 ---roc=20   DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own=20 Residence Pipe Organs. HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org=20 List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org=20 Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org=20      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Caution Re:[ResidenceOrgans]RE:questionsabout... From: "Jon Calvo" <jcalvo@mail.state.tn.us> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 11:35:38 -0600   ** For Your Eyes Only ** ** High Priority **   it is all wicks stop switching that is in the top the devise that you are = talking about is a tripper action , kilgen Austin several others used this = for a combination action       >>> GRSCoLVR@aol.com 12/07/00 11:27AM >>> Jon--- Does your console,,,,when you take off the top, have a large round thing = with=20 a shiny rod inside it and wires coming out of it on the top of the = first=20 stuff that you see inside?=20 ---roc=20   DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own=20 Residence Pipe Organs. HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org=20 List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org=20 Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org=20      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Caution Re:[ResidenceOrgans]RE:questionsabout... From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:37:53 EST   Jon-- Thats correct,,,I was talking about the old soleniod tripper type action, which you say it is not,,,but a standard Wicks type action. I am not much = of a Wicks expert,,,so will defer to someone else that might be. Perhaps you =   need lubrication, or you have plastic parts that are growing/shrinking/failing. Good Luck,,,, ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: CautionRe:[ResidenceOrgans]RE:questionsabout... From: "Jon Calvo" <jcalvo@mail.state.tn.us> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 11:40:59 -0600   ** For Your Eyes Only ** ** High Priority **   thank fully the parts are not plastic=20       >>> GRSCoLVR@aol.com 12/07/00 11:37AM >>> Jon-- Thats correct,,,I was talking about the old soleniod tripper type = action,=20 which you say it is not,,,but a standard Wicks type action. I am not much = of=20 a Wicks expert,,,so will defer to someone else that might be. Perhaps = you=20 need lubrication, or you have plastic parts that are=20 growing/shrinking/failing.=20 Good Luck,,,, ---Roc=20   DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own=20 Residence Pipe Organs. HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org=20 List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org=20 Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org=20