DIYAPASON-L Digest #202 - Saturday, December 9, 2000
 
Re: [Residence Organs]  DIY roll player for organ?
  by <DBnMOPS@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] DIY roll player for organ? From: <DBnMOPS@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 00:07:48 EST     --part1_55.e770b17.276469a4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 12/1/2000 8:23:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, ckehne@accglobal.net writes:     > Here's a nice winter project which I've been thinking about > for some time. If other list members have travelled down this > path, any comments, warnings, etc. would be appreciated before > I accidentally walk myself off a cliff! I have a 6-rank 1967 > Wicks organ (DE, of course) which is duplexed and unified to > yield 15 'voices' on 2MP. The pressure varies from 1 1/2" to > 3 1/2" (depending on the rank); the pipes are open-toed and > have no nicking. I have been contemplating attaching a roll player > to this organ, but since these units are not your standard > garage sale find, I was thinking of using a standard 88-note > player piano mechanism in a stand-alone cabinet. Possibilities; > chuck out the old leaky pneumatics and find air-actuated > micro switches for each note. problems: can the switches stay > 'on' for sustained notes without burning out? Also, if their > response is too rapid, they will detect the paper 'bridges' for > the sustained notes on piano rolls, resulting in a repeating note > instead. Other considerations; how to allocate the 88 holes to > 2MP. Finally, I've been told that piano rolls might sound choppy > since they were designed for an instrument with essentially no > sustained tone. BTW, my taste in music is primarily classical, > including orchestral transcriptions. No Broadway tunes, foxtrots > or marimba waltzes with 'mandolin interpretations'. Any comments > would be greatly appreciated. > > cheers, > Robert Pelletier >   Hello Robert, Have you had any responses to the above inquiry?? I have an Estey-type pipe organ roll player unit with a collection of about 100 = rolls. I've had a tentative buyer for it for over a year, but he has never gotten =   around to paying a deposit on it, or picking it up. In case you would have =   interest in this unit and rolls, I could again contact him to see if he is =   still interested in it, and perhaps give him some incentive to complete = the deal, or finally back out. I am just asking enough to recoup my investment = in it--$1,500. The rolls are worth that. The spool assembly looks similar to = a player piano unit, and the vacuum pump and some miscellaneous relays are included with it. The only thing you would need is a relay that would go between the spool box tubing and the organ chests, to convert the vacuum signal to an electric signal. I have a MIDI player unit kit that I have decided to add to my home pipe organ, and that is the only reason I'm = willing to sell the Estey unit. The 100 rolls are all Classical Titles. Let me know if you have any interest, and I'll find out if my buyer = is ready to act. Regards, Doug   --part1_55.e770b17.276469a4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 12/1/2000 8:23:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, <BR>ckehne@accglobal.net = writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Here's a nice = winter project which I've been thinking about <BR>for some time. If other list members have travelled down this <BR>path, any comments, warnings, etc. would be appreciated before <BR>I accidentally walk myself off a cliff! I have a 6-rank 1967 <BR>Wicks organ (DE, of course) which is duplexed and unified to <BR>yield 15 'voices' on 2MP. The pressure varies from 1 1/2" to <BR>3 1/2" (depending on the rank); the pipes are open-toed and <BR>have no nicking. I have been contemplating attaching a roll player <BR>to this organ, but since these units are not your standard <BR>garage sale find, I was thinking of using a standard 88-note <BR>player piano mechanism in a stand-alone cabinet. Possibilities; <BR>chuck out the old leaky pneumatics and find air-actuated <BR>micro switches for each note. problems: can the switches stay <BR>'on' for sustained notes without burning out? Also, if their <BR>response is too rapid, they will detect the paper 'bridges' for <BR>the sustained notes on piano rolls, resulting in a repeating note <BR>instead. Other considerations; how to allocate the 88 holes to <BR>2MP. Finally, I've been told that piano rolls might sound choppy <BR>since they were designed for an instrument with essentially no <BR>sustained tone. BTW, my taste in music is primarily classical, <BR>including orchestral transcriptions. No Broadway tunes, foxtrots <BR>or marimba waltzes with 'mandolin interpretations'. Any comments <BR>would be greatly appreciated. <BR> <BR>cheers, <BR>Robert Pelletier <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>Hello Robert, <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Have you had any responses to the = above inquiry?? &nbsp;I have an <BR>Estey-type pipe organ roll player unit = with a collection of about 100 rolls. &nbsp;<BR>I've had a tentative buyer = for it for over a year, but he has never gotten <BR>around to paying a = deposit on it, or picking it up. In case you would have <BR>interest in = this unit and rolls, I could again contact him to see if he is <BR>still = interested in it, and perhaps give him some incentive to complete the = <BR>deal, or finally back out. I am just asking enough to recoup my = investment in <BR>it--$1,500. &nbsp;The rolls are worth that. The spool = assembly looks similar to a <BR>player piano unit, and the vacuum pump and = some miscellaneous relays are <BR>included with it. &nbsp;The only thing = you would need is a relay that would go <BR>between the spool box tubing = and the organ chests, to convert the vacuum <BR>signal to an electric = signal. &nbsp;I have a MIDI player unit kit that ! I have <BR>decided to add to my home pipe organ, and that is the only = reason I'm willing <BR>to sell the Estey unit. &nbsp;The 100 rolls are all = Classical Titles. <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Let me know if you have any = interest, and I'll find out if my buyer is <BR>ready to act. <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Regards, <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Doug</FONT></HTML>   --part1_55.e770b17.276469a4_boundary--