DIYAPASON-L Digest #37 - Thursday, February 17, 2000
 
console wiring project
  by "Brian Graham" <bgraham@geaf.com>
Intro and questions
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  console wiring project
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com>
Re: console wiring project
  by "Larry Chace" <RLC1@etnainstruments.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Verdin Century 3
  by "Jerry Smith" <smithj@iamerica.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Intro and questions
  by "Jimmy" <jrbaird@erols.com>
 

(back) Subject: console wiring project From: "Brian Graham" <bgraham@geaf.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:11:12 -0600   Hello   I've noticed there hasn't been much activity on this list lately, so I thought I'd do my part to remedy the situation.   I was recently able to acquire a small 2 manual wicks console for what I figured was a good price (under $300).   I'd like to adapt it to play my Estey.   Correct me if I'm wrong, but I presume that the Wicks had a wire from the console to the chests for each and every pipe.   The Estey is duplexed electro-pneumatic, so for each manual chest it only needs 61x2 wires for the primaries and 2 wires for each stop action (Gr. & Sw.).   The Wicks has 61-note gang switches in the console for each stop, = connecting to all of those individual wires to go to each magnet in the Wicks system.   Question: Since I don't need the gang switches for the stop action, could I use them for couplers? The Estey has virtually all unison stops and was designed for = the use of octave couplers. The Wicks was highly unified and has no couplers.   If I CAN use some of the gang switches as couplers, then I wonder what would be the best way to join those wires together so that there is only = one wire actually going to the chest for a given note.   For example: for the Great there would be Gt. Unison, Gt. to Gt. 4', Sw. = to Gt. 16', Sw. to Gt. 8' and Sw. to Gt. 4'. This would use 5 of the gang switches = and I'd need to have a junction to join the five wires for any given note to one wire = to take to the chest.   Is there any electrical reason why this won't work?   Thanks!   -Brian Graham  
(back) Subject: Intro and questions From: <KriderSM@aol.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:33:13 EST   I helped tune a the chapel organ at the Pontifical College Josephinum in Columbus, Ohio, and this nice 6-7? rank organ includes a celeste and a beautiful reed Regal. The organist stated that while his students = preferred the oboe sound, that Regal had a nice unusual reed sound, slightly buzzy, = yet not overpowering at all. I thought I'd like that organ in my home.   I played a short Beatles tune on it, using straight organ with no trems. Lovely sound! Stan Krider   Mike Blackwell asks:   <snip> Another question - What is a reasonable set of ranks for this type = of organ,   and how much borrowing is common / acceptable? My wife wants to be able = to   practice her Paul Manz pieces :-) I enjoy playing the old German Lutheran   hymns, stuff from Parish Organist, etc.     Any suggestions, ideas, resources, horror stories, etc., are welcome!      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] console wiring project From: "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:28:54 -0800   Brian Graham wrote:Question:   > ... > If I CAN use some of the gang switches as couplers, then I wonder what > would be the best way to join those wires together so that there is only = one > wire actually going to the chest for a given note. >   I'm looking forward to comments on this, too. I have several = direct-electric (at least they COULD be by Wicks) chests & extension chests, and a 4' x 5' relay and = gang-switch board formerly used with a (aprxly) ten-rank installation, and I'm considering the different ways = of hooking up this melange.   Mac Hayes    
(back) Subject: Re: console wiring project From: "Larry Chace" <RLC1@etnainstruments.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:40:00 -0500   Brian Graham mentioned a Wicks console with switching for unified stops = and Estey duplex windchests and asked about some of the wiring used in those two items and how they might be joined.   The simple answer is, "yes, you can use the Wicks unit stop switches to operate couplers instead and you can use the result to operate the Estey chests". In effect, the Wicks unification is simply a large set of couplers applied to a large number of 1-rank "division" chests. Just imagine the Great 8' Flute instead as "Flute to Great 8'", and so on.   Let us say you want to have the following couplers to operate your Estey = chest: Great to Great 16, 8off, 4   Now look at the Wicks stops. If you are really lucky, you might find something like this:   Great: Flute 8', Flute 4, Flute 2'   You could take the cable that went to the Flute chest and instead run it = to the Great magnets on the Estey chest. Wiring the cable such that Tenor C attaches to bottom CC on the chest, and so on. Now, when you draw the Great 4' Flute and play bottom C, you'll be firing 8' CC on the chest; = this has become the Great 8' coupler. (To make it a unison off, you need to reverse its operation, of course.)   It is unlikely that the existing Wicks specification will match the couplers you want as-are, and so you may well have to re-wire the gang switches, the 61-pole single-throw normally-open switches that are controlled by the Wicks stoptabs.   It is not difficult work, but it does require some patience and some neatness in wiring!   If your Wicks console has an electronic relay for the switching, then different approaches may be needed, depending upon the design of the = relay.   Did *any* of that make sense?!?   Larry Chace      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Verdin Century 3 From: "Jerry Smith" <smithj@iamerica.net> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:16:55 -0600   Hi Rick,   Thanks for the information. We really appreciate it. We will visit the places you suggested. Sounds like fun. Hope to get more organ sites thru email.   Thanks again Jerry and Ann Smith   VEAGUE wrote:   > Hi- While in sunny Florida, check out the film schedule at the Tampa > Theatre. Their 3 manual/ 12 rank WurliTzer is tops. It is played for the > pre-movie on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. I used to play there. > > Hungry?? Go to Ellenton- just south of Tampa on 301 to the Roaring 20's > Pipes and Pizza. It just opened, and houses the ex-Paramount Music = Palace > (Indianapolis, IN) 4 manual/ 42 rank WurliTzer. They open in the = afternoon > till about 9 or 10 pm. Their phone is > 941-723-1733. > I played the instrument when it was in Indy. > > Happy Organing...... > > Rick > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > Residence Pipe Organs. > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Intro and questions From: "Jimmy" <jrbaird@erols.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:19:28 -0500   KriderSM@aol.com wrote: > > The organist stated that while his students preferred > the oboe sound, that Regal had a nice unusual reed sound, slightly = buzzy, yet > not overpowering at all. I thought I'd like that organ in my home. > Right on. I have a rank of those buzzy things in my small home organ. Love it. The organist at the church where it was originally, hated it. She said that it sounded like bike horns. It was replaced with a 4' principal, so I was able to get it.   Jimmy