DIYAPASON-L Digest #38 - Friday, February 18, 2000
 
Re: [Residence Organs]  Verdin Century 3
  by <WurlyOrgan@aol.com>
Re: console wiring project
  by "Dave McClellan" <drmc@speedfactory.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: console wiring project
  by "Ron Natalie" <ron@sensor.com>
YOUR experience with yellow glue...
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  YOUR experience with yellow glue...
  by "Jimmy" <jrbaird@erols.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  YOUR experience with yellow glue...
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  YOUR experience with yellow glue...
  by "Jimmy" <jrbaird@erols.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Verdin Century 3 From: <WurlyOrgan@aol.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:07:47 EST   PLEASE eliminate me from the List. 3rd request  
(back) Subject: Re: console wiring project From: "Dave McClellan" <drmc@speedfactory.net> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:33:30 -0500   As Larry Chace described, that is exactly what I did for my residence = organ. In my case, the components were: o 9 Unit chests o Kilgen "Harmonic Ensemble Console" which originally operated a 4-rank = unit organ o Wicks 4' x 6' 1970's vintage relay using power transistors and diode isolated gang switches   The Wicks relay does all the stop switching. Its inputs are: o GREAT MAIN IN-61 o SWELL MAIN IN-61 o PEDAL MAIN IN-32 o Stop switching lines.   The original Kilgen unit ranks were: 16' Flute 8' Open Diapason (from AA) 8' Dulciana 8' Salicional (TC)   The Kilgen stop list (omitting fake oboes and quintadenas, etc.) was: Pedal Flute 16,8 4 Diapason 8,4 Dulciana 8   Great: Flute 8,4 Diapason 8,4,2 2/3,2 Dulciana 8,4 Salicional 8   Swell Flute 16(TC),8,4,2 2/3,2 Diapason 8,4 Dulciana 8 Salicional 8   The console was connected to the relay as follows: - GREAT MAIN IN to 8' Dulciana 1-61 - SWELL MAIN IN to 16' Flute 13-73 - PEDAL MAIN IN to Diapason 25-56 (rank stopped at AA) - Salicional switching not used (TC rank)   This yielded the following couplers: Great to Great 8,4 derived from Great Dulciana 8,4 Swell to Swell 16,8,4 derived from Swell Flute 16,8,4 Great to Pedal 8 derived from Pedal Dulciana 8 Swell to Pedal 8,4 derived from Pedal Flute 16,8 Swell to Great 8 derived from Great Flute 8   Of course, other couplers were possible, but I ran out of tabs!   Dave McClellan Atlanta          
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: console wiring project From: "Ron Natalie" <ron@sensor.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:59:50 -0500   Tracing out the keying system of my Moller, it's always amazing to me how they got this thing to work without diodes.  
(back) Subject: YOUR experience with yellow glue... From: <KriderSM@aol.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:24:02 EST   Hi gang, I am fully aware of all the EMOTIONS pertaining to the use of yellow glue = in organ building, so this request does not address that issue. I simply want to hear about your own experiences with this type of glue, specific details BUT NO EMOTIONAL OUTBURSTS!! E.g. ...how do you successfully remove this glue from wood? ....have any of you used it, then unglued the joint successfully?   I have heard of some builders who use yellow glue to mount wooden = pneumatics to wooden chests, except that they glue a newspaper gasket to the chest, = then glue the pneumatic to the paper gasket. This allows for an easy removal of =   the pneumatic later on, and also provides a tight seal.   NO FLAMES PLEASE!! I simply want factual data, pro & con.   Stan Krider  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] YOUR experience with yellow glue... From: "Jimmy" <jrbaird@erols.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:42:36 -0500   > E.g. ...how do you successfully remove this glue from wood?     > ...have any of you used it, then unglued the joint successfully?   I have never been able to. I hate it when other have used it, and then I have to remove it. Horrible. I use yellow glue ONLY for parts that never have to come apart, like wood on wood (console parts, etc).   With the availability of both hot hide glue, and now, cold hide glue, why would anyone even want to use yellow glue for leathers, etc???   I would be interested to know how, or if possible, other than sanding, how to remove the yellow glue.   Jimmy Baird in Virginia  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] YOUR experience with yellow glue... From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:14:40 -0500   The paper gasket is good. I've even used desk-blotting paper. To remove old white or yellow glue, I use alcohol.   I do not however, use anything like Elmers white glue on anything except structural- NO organ or player piano work of any kind.   A Duo Art expression box was almost ruined once because some dummy used white glue on everything.   Rick          
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] YOUR experience with yellow glue... From: "Jimmy" <jrbaird@erols.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:01:15 -0500   VEAGUE wrote: > > The paper gasket is good. I've even used desk-blotting paper. > To remove old white or yellow glue, I use alcohol. > > Ah ha, I'll give it a try. Thanks.   Jimmy