DIYPASON-L Digest #2 - Monday, January 10, 2000
 
[Residence Organs]  duct tape to stop wind leak
  by <Melodyboy@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  short intro as requested.
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  duct tape to stop wind leak
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Console Up !
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
short intro as requested.
  by "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net>
Re: Robert Morton Photoplayer console type
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  duct tape to stop wind leak
  by <MWORGLBAU@aol.com>
residence organ
  by "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com>
Short introduction
  by "Larry Chace" <RLC1@etnainstruments.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  duct tape to stop wind leak
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  duct tape to stop wind leak
  by "Ron Natalie" <ron@sensor.com>
DIYAPASON-L in digest form?
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Introduction
  by "John R. Ball" <johnrball@erols.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  duct tape to stop wind leak
  by "Bernard C. Nordmann" <bcnordmann@cdmnet.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  duct tape to stop wind leak
  by <Pipewheezr@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  duct tape to stop wind leak
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
[Residence Organs]  Short introduction
  by <TheOrganst@aol.com>
[Residence Organs]  Introduction
  by "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Console Up !
  by "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@ameritech.net>
RE: [Residence Organs]  Re: Robert Morton Photoplayer console type
  by "John Burns" <burnsjr@prodigy.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Console Up !
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Robert Morton Photoplayer console type
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
blower motor questions,  lubricant, etc.
  by "Brian Graham" <bgraham@geaf.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  blower motor questions,  lubricant, etc.
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  blower motor questions,  lubricant, etc.
  by "DanielWHopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: [Residence Organs]  blower motor questions,  lubricant, etc.
  by "DanielWHopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: [Residence Organs]  blower motor questions,  lubricant, etc.
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  blower motor questions,  lubricant, etc.
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  blower motor questions,  lubricant, etc.
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  short intro as requested.
  by <DBnMOPS@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  blower motor questions,  lubricant, etc.
  by "Kurt Schlieter" <kschliet@execpc.com>
Re: Introduction
  by <Mohman@aol.com>
Blowers and Introduction
  by "Kelvin Smith" <KelvinSmith@untraveledroad.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Blowers and Introduction
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Greetings
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Blowers and Introduction
  by "Kelvin Smith" <KelvinSmith@untraveledroad.com>
Another quick intro
  by "Frank Vanaman" <fvanaman@mindspring.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Introduction
  by "mike mcdonald" <pipeorganman@localaccess.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Blowers and Introduction
  by "mike mcdonald" <pipeorganman@localaccess.com>
 

(back) Subject: [Residence Organs] duct tape to stop wind leak From: <Melodyboy@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:38:43 EST     In a message dated 1/10/0 12:08:39 AM, you wrote:   <<Any suggestions on the best kind of duct tape that wont let go ,to seal = wind trunk leaks? >>   Something i tried on my main line, which has work VERY well, is aluminum tape. The adhesive is very strong, and bonds well on metal wind lines. = You can get it at virtually any large home supply center such as Home Depot, Loews etc.. If your interested in getting it done quickly, but having it =   last a long time (4 years and counting here), i would recommend it.   Another product you may want to consider, is called "Iron Bond". Its a = grey paste that you "paint" onto the seems, dries extreamly hard. Its used = alot on industrial high presure lines, and can be found at any Heating/Air Conditioning supplier or contractor.   Best Regards! Cory Wright    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] short intro as requested. From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:39:19 EST   Hello listers-- I have been looking forward to this type of list for a long time, and now David has indeed gotten one started. I am Lester Rockafellow,--notice the 3 letters that make the difference of =   billions :-) -- (preferred nick--Roc), retired early as a control = technician of an interstate natural gas pipeline. I have conducted my own part time = pipe organ repair business since I was 16 or so years old. After I retired and = got thru a heart attack and a 5 way bypass, I purchased and removed Estey opus =   2775, 2/10, now 2/14 pipe organ. I am in the throes of getting thru the = red tape to add onto my home to install it in the most heavily populated (and regulated) state-- New Jersey. I have been thru a year of red tape already =   and have not broken ground yet! <G> The saga continues. I am hoping to learn of other or better ways of doing just about anything = in the pipe organ field, either classical or theatre, I have equal interest = in both. I also own an interest in a 2/9 Odell pipe organ, and have recently purchased a 2/4 Robert Morton Photoplayer organ which is in storage at = this time. My other hobbies include stationary steam engines, old Spencer Turbine Orgoblo pipe organ blowers, and railroad signalling equipment. Glad to make acquaintance with you all, ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] duct tape to stop wind leak From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:41:01 EST   Hi Daniel and listers--- For the past 5 or so years I have used a thin (maybe 2-3 mil) aluminum = "foil" tape that comes with a paper backing over the "sticky side" and in a roll. = It can be cut with scissors to cover nicely any area required, and with the = back end of an old toothbrush or the like can be "burnished" into any crevices = and joints to look quite good. Its about 2 inch wide tape in the roll. Once applied it is very very difficult to remove,,and I have had no = re-occurances of leaks since it was applied. It has been used on pressures to 15 inches. = I find the tape at Home Depot type handyman stores,,,in the heating and ventilating duct department. Its price is about 6 dollars a roll of about = 300 feet. Regards, ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Console Up ! From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 01:03:49 -0500   Hi Everybody... I'm Rick Veague from the corn fields of Indiana. Born = and raised in the southwest Chicago burbs, I began organ lessons at 9 y/o and have been playing for 39 years theatre organ mostly with some church-subbing. When I heard the Chicago Stadium organ as a kid, that did it! Was it the voice of God, or the Barton? In the late 60s, I was one of the house-organists at the Rialto Theatre in Joliet, Il. playing the 4m/24r Barton. In the Army, I played for Special Services sometimes AND was a Spec-4 = Field Radio Mechanic. Once a civilian again, I resumed the music business when mom and dad = retired to Florida. I had the pleasure of working with Don Baker,Tiny Tim, Rudy Valee, Frank Fontaine and the Harmonica Rascals as house organist at the Orpheum in Clearwater Fl. At the same time, I sold WurliTzer organs and pianos, and installed a = 2m/9r Wurli at Central Music in Clearwater. The instrument is now in a residence up the road from me here in central Indiana- thats how I wound up here! What started as a hobby, is now a full-time business of restoring and servicing pipe organs, player pianos, street organs and old clocks.   I'm glad to join you all, and hope to make friends and help others in any way I can with their "beast in the house".   Rick dutchorgan@svs.net http://www.svs.net/Dutch        
(back) Subject: short intro as requested. From: "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 22:02:27 -0800   At 12:39 AM 01/10/2000 EST, GRSCoLVR@aol.com wrote: >and have recently >purchased a 2/4 Robert Morton Photoplayer organ which is in storage at = this >time.     Hi, list. I'm Bob Loesch, and I own the remains of Wurlitzer opus 1142, which used to be a Style 216, 2 manuals, 10 ranks. I also own a Morton = pit organ, originally a 2 manual, 3 rank style 39 (or 49, I'm really not sure, now...)   Roc, I've just got to ask: is your Morton a piano console, or an organ console?     Regards,   Bob, in beautiful Lake County, California, USA   http://www.jps.net/rrloesch   Time flies whether you're having fun or not!   The best things in life aren't THINGS.  
(back) Subject: Re: Robert Morton Photoplayer console type From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 01:24:34 EST   Hi Bob--- Its been a while since we have *talked*--- My Morton is an organ console,,,,from which the player had been removed = and a third manual *frenched* into the player space. It was (I was told) = originally installed in a theatre in Ohio, but I have no details that seem reliable = yet. Nor do I have the opus number in memory yet. :-) The console *seems* to be = a new or newer shell just from observing the difference in the condition and =   the coloration of the wood. It also is equipped with Allen-type "princess pedals" :-( ugh!) I hope to learn more about this organs history, and possibly look for a more *accurate* console,,,,but I am considering = selling the whole unit as is. It was purchased from and I removed it from a house = in Pittsburgh. Regards, ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] duct tape to stop wind leak From: <MWORGLBAU@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 01:24:20 EST   Dear Daniel,   "Any suggestions on the best kind of duct tape that won't let go to = seal wind trunk leaks?"   What type of windline are you trying to seal?     Michael R. Williamson Williamson-Warne & Associates Hollywood Ca.    
(back) Subject: residence organ From: "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 22:39:22 -0600   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0045_01BF563B.61277BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hi everyone, Gary Black here. I am installing a 1905 Estey in my home. = =3D I have a 1922 Hinners console and pedalboard, a 1922 Gottried oboe =3D from the Hinners and the rest of the pipe work from the Estey. I have =3D turned my t.v. room into a organ chamber with the blower in the =3D basement. I work in the summer at Howell Pipe Organs in Sterling and =3D have gotten some chests, etc. from them. Can anyone give me advice on =3D how heavy or strong the framework should be to hold up 12 ranks of =3D pipes? I have made the framework out of oak and poplar but it doesn't =3D look too substantial. How should I fasten all of this to the house? =3D Help! Thanks, Gary   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0045_01BF563B.61277BE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi everyone,&nbsp; Gary Black =3D here.&nbsp; I am=3D20 installing a 1905 Estey in my home.&nbsp; I have a 1922 Hinners console = =3D and=3D20 pedalboard,&nbsp; a 1922 Gottried oboe from the Hinners and the rest of = =3D the pipe=3D20 work from the Estey.&nbsp; I have turned my t.v. room into a organ =3D chamber with=3D20 the blower in the basement.&nbsp; I work in the summer at Howell Pipe =3D Organs in=3D20 Sterling and have gotten some chests, etc. from them.&nbsp; Can anyone =3D give me=3D20 advice on how heavy or strong the framework should be to hold up 12 =3D ranks of=3D20 pipes?&nbsp; I have made the framework out of oak and poplar but it =3D doesn't look=3D20 too substantial.&nbsp; How should I fasten all of this to the =3D house?&nbsp;=3D20 Help!&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks,&nbsp;&nbsp; Gary</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0045_01BF563B.61277BE0--    
(back) Subject: Short introduction From: "Larry Chace" <RLC1@etnainstruments.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:12:16 -0500   Greetings, all. A David Scribner suggested, here is a short introduction.   A newly-installed Aeolian-Skinner (opus #1325) in our home church plus an article in "Popular Science" on a Dutch pipe organ with 31 ntoes per = octave plus many interesting stories from my grandfather, a self-taught organist, all conspired to interest me in pipe organs. During junior and senior = high school in the early 1960s, I assembled a 2m instrument, tracker action for the Great and home-built electro-pneumatic action for the 1-rank Positiv. That "opus #1" found a new home with another enthusiast after I moved away to college.   At the University of Illinois, I studied Electrical Engineering (but finally got a degree in Sociology) and began working as a systems programmer (IBM 7094 and 360/75). I also met fellow EE student Dave Junchen and we spent a year or more of Saturday mornings restoring a 2/8 Wurlitzer (today still in its original home, Champaign's Virginia = Theatre). I later worked with him on an Aeolian-Skinner installation in Chicago = (yes, he did A-S installations!).   Now, many years later, I'm still a systems programmer (at Cornell University) but have also been doing work as "Etna Instruments" designing and building various constrol system components for pipe organs, including the MIDI add-ons for the Z-tronics relay system. It's been fun (and challenging) doing both hardware and software design.   I've been collection pieces and parts for "opus #2" for the past 20 years and have gotten to the point where we now have a nice new (and small) = organ chamber under the dining room and a 3m console sitting there. A workshop is almost complete out in the barn, heatable so that New York State = winters will no longer be a hinderance to organ work. The instrument will be "orchestral" in nature, probably not a true theatre organ, and will comprise from 6 to ??? ranks, depending upon how much will actually fit. It will be unified (with a Z-tronics relay) and will have a MIDI record/playback feature, necessary since I'm hardly an organist. At present, the grandkids and other young relatives seem to enjoy pressing = the keys and playing with the stoptabs even though no sounds are heard. (An "emergency PP" switch may prove necessary, disabling all but the softest stops!)   As usual, I've blathered on for too long. Many apologies!   Larry Chace      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] duct tape to stop wind leak From: <KriderSM@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:19:35 EST   We find success in using either aluminum or stainless steel tape. One = must, however, be careful to apply this without those little crinkles that like = to form during attachment. A bit expensive, however.   Is Austin Organ Universal Chest tape available to the general public? = Another expensive yet very solid solution.   Stan Krider   In a message dated 1/9/00 11:08:39 PM, danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca writes:   << Any suggestions on the best kind of duct tape that wont let go ,to seal =   wind trunk leaks?   Daniel >>    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] duct tape to stop wind leak From: "Ron Natalie" <ron@sensor.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:50:08 -0500       KriderSM@aol.com wrote: > > We find success in using either aluminum or stainless steel tape.   The heating industry actually did a study and found that duct tape is about the worst thing they could come up with to seal air ducts.  
(back) Subject: DIYAPASON-L in digest form? From: <KriderSM@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:48:20 EST   Greetings David,   Do you plan to send the DIYAPASON-L in digest form? I much prefer the = digest format.   Cordially, Stan Krider  
(back) Subject: Introduction From: "John R. Ball" <johnrball@erols.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:54:26 -0500   Happy New Year to all, I am John Ball, a retired computer consultant, of McLean, VA. I was = active in church choirs, singing and directing, in earlier years. I also played dance bands (trumpet), big band jazz, and in local versions of broadway musical orchestras for thirty year or so. I never did learn to play piano beyond hymns and simple classics, however. To me the pipe organ = represents a combination of very interesting aesthetics and technologies that could take a lifetime to master. By contracting to remove organs from churches being updated I have assembled about 60 ranks of pipes (Hook&Hastings, = Lewis & Hitchcock, Moeller, etc.) I am working on a PC program to control the electronics boards that I designed. I am adverse to buying anything so I try to do it all myself. The current situation is wait, wait, wait until = I finish remodeling the house to get unrestricted use of the chamber area. Perhaps by the end of this year. I am not a traditionalist, i.e., I will always investigate new or different ways to build knowing that my time horizon is 25 years or so and, therefore, I don't have to build for eternity. I have posted some of my ideas on PIPORG-L and will rephrase = them here when it is appropriate. Regards to all on the list and I hope to share lots of information and progress with you all. I invite anyone in the area to visit at any time = to talk shop. John R. Ball      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] duct tape to stop wind leak From: "Bernard C. Nordmann" <bcnordmann@cdmnet.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:58:55 -0600   At 12:07 AM 1/10/00 -0400, you wrote: >Any suggestions on the best kind of duct tape that wont let go ,to seal = wind >trunk leaks? As far as I know, they all slip, given time. Contact a supplier of materials to HVAC (Heating, Ventilation, Air Conditioning) businesses. = They have several products which are two or three steps, i.e. you apply a coating (mine looked suspiciously like thinned white glue), then apply the =   plain white (in my case) tape, and a possible finish coat of the same = liquid.   Mine went on 22 years ago and hasn't moved.   Regards,   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bernie Nordmann, St. Louis, MO -- Owner of a 3/13 Wurlitzer/Barton/Kimball/Dennison/whatever -- Registered Piano Technician, Piano Technicians Guild -- Full time computer consultant - Nordmann Consulting, Inc. -- Amateur radio operator, call sign KV0W -- Husband, father - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] duct tape to stop wind leak From: <Pipewheezr@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:40:07 EST   If you talk to all the old organ guy's,they use at tape joint's friction = tape with 2or 3 coats of shelac.This is easly removed when dissasembly is = needed.I have used that card board tubing with wooden flanges, fish glued on the = end's of the hose.For off set's and winker's.V W used for freash air hose,I do V = W machine work and used to work on the car's at night. Dennis  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] duct tape to stop wind leak From: "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:46:52 -0500 (EST)   I saw an ad on TV the other night for a product you simply spray on the offending pipe surface. After being left on for a short time the leak was sealed. This was done on copper, other metal, and garden hose. I wasn't in the market so I didn't pay much more attention, but I will keep my eyes open. Any other late night viewers might also be aware and take note if you see the ad.   bruce cornely ~:~:~ rohrschok8@webtv.net gainesville, florida    
(back) Subject: [Residence Organs] Short introduction From: <TheOrganst@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:47:35 EST   Finally a list just for us!   Hello to my fellow organ nuts. My name is Kyle Irwin. My friends and = family think I've gone off the deep end. I was hired by my first church when I turned 8 years old. I'm now 40. I've been playing ever since. My first = home organ was a Magnus Chord organ. Remember those? They now sell on eBay as antiques. (ouch) My collection has grown. I now have eleven, yes, I said eleven, organs and three pianos in my house. Three of them are pipe = organs. I have a 6 rank Kilgen Petite Ensemble, a 3 rank Reproduco Player Pipe = Organ, and a 9 rank Welte Philharmonic Player Pipe organ. The Welte is very historic. It was originally in the Barker Bros. Department Store in = downtown Los Angeles. People came from all over the country to hear and see this = organ and delight in it's music. It was also used as Welte's west coast demo instrument. Many Welte organs were sold to wealthy homeowners after seeing =   and hearing this particular installation. I look forward to sharing experiences with all of you. I have pictures of all of them if any of you = are interested. My delight is hearing somebody bragging about the size of = their organ. My response, "Yes, but you only have one!" LOL   Best to all of you!  
(back) Subject: [Residence Organs] Introduction From: "bruce cornely" <rohrschok8@webtv.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:52:53 -0500 (EST)   My project is a small mechanical action practice organ of probably one, but maybe two to four stops. The one stop is most likely because it would allow a much simpler action and no stop action. Compass would probably be 56/30 and the stop would be a small, warm and gentle principal. I've concidered also doing a two manual without stop action so that I could have a readily available temperament change. My biggest decision is the appearance in that I'm torn between attractive and functional: should it be encased with an attractive facade or al fresco so that I can tune it myself?   I am preparing to prepare plans to possibly set up a web page. I will post the address soonish!   Bruce Cornely -- Gainesville FL retired organist, now working on a mystery novel.   bruce cornely ~:~:~ rohrschok8@webtv.net gainesville, florida    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Console Up ! From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <opus1100@ameritech.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:10:12 -0600   Hi,   I'm Jon Habermaas and I live in Lindenhurst, Il...just a short 10 minutes south of the Cheddar Curtain. I have been fascinated with pipe organs = since as a tike I realized what that 3/34 Casavant console was in front of the southside Chicago church where I grew up in. A friend of my dad, who owned a local plumbing co., had a style D WurliTze (OPUS = 1100) in his home, and at about 8 or 9 I got a chance to try out some of my = piano pieces on it. Somehow they sounded much different with the xylophone and pipes. That was the first pipe organ I ever played and several years ago = I had a chance to purchase it from the friend of my dads and it is in the final stages of installation in my home. It is still the same style D that came out of Roseland's Parkway Theatre over a half century ago. After high school I went to work for a local Chicago organ builder, D. S. Wentz. His operation was a little different than most of the other local organ men as he maintained a shop and shop staff, while most of the other organ local organ men just did service work on location. We did quite a bit of shop = work for many of the other local organ men, chest releathering, reservoirs, = etc. It was a great experience, although most of our organ work was on Moller organs, since Wentz also sold several rebuilt organs a year, it was a = chance to work on a variety of builders work, Estey, Kimball, Reuter, Hinners, Tellers..etc. We would often work with the Reuter rep Frank Wichlac when extra help was needed to install a new organ and the Moller rep Gus Fabry. Like Wentz, Gus eventually left Moller to start his own business, which ironically was located for many years in Lindenhurst, Il. Wentz truly = loved pipe organs and his shop was open 7 days a week, 6 days for business, and Sundays when he had open house for those who were known in the business = as amatuers...or what we are...home organ owners. I spent many a Sunday in that shop and it was because of Wentz that I had my first pipe organ, = which had many "goodies" that were donated by Mr. Wentz...(when Wentz was with Moller it is reported that he developed the "baby cry" which appeared in several Moller Theatre Organs. The Roseland State 3/12 Moller was equipped with a "Wentz Baby Cry" ) When I worked for Wentz he was in his seventies and had heart problems. When he died in the late fifties, that ended my career in the organ business. I went into the Navy and after moving my 2/8 Robert Morton hybrid several times, I decided that owning a pipe organ was too difficult with the many moves in a Navy career. I regret selling the organ as it did not survive as an intact instrument and I have run into parts of it from time to time since then. My dad was a professional organist who's dream of a theatre organ career ended with the "talkies". In his later years he was able to earn a living as an organist, but at the Hammond and not the pipe organ. = He was very happy with the basement Robert Morton and played theatre pipes whenever he had a chance. I found out that I was more of a tinkerer than player and have only dabbled at the keyboard over the years. I am back to taking organ lessons and hope eventually be more that just a dabbler. I = am currently the newsletter editor for the local theatre organ club (CATOE) = and am helping get their website off the ground. Our beginning efforts are on-line at www.catoe.org. If you are interested in getting your organ on line and have problems with webpages, I urge you to take advantage of Kurt's offer,,,,he has done some nice work for some of the Dairyland folks as well as his own. I am grateful to Kurt for allowing us to use some of his organ logo backgrounds on the CATOE site. I also have a full time job at a Chicago TV station which is getting in the way of all the things I = like to do....hopefully someday soon that can change. Although my involvement = is primarily with theatre organs, I continue to like an enjoy most organ = music. I draw the line with Ken Griffin and The Happy Organ, but do like the "Three Suns",,,(guess that really dates me),,,and of course most serious organ music.     Jon       -----Original Message----- From: VEAGUE <dutchorgan@svs.net> To: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> Date: Monday, January 10, 2000 12:04 AM Subject: [Residence Organs] Console Up !     >Hi Everybody... I'm Rick Veague from the corn fields of Indiana. Born = and >raised in the southwest Chicago burbs, I began organ lessons at 9 y/o and >have been playing for 39 years theatre organ mostly with some >church-subbing. >When I heard the Chicago Stadium organ as a kid, that did it! Was it the >voice of God, or the Barton? >In the late 60s, I was one of the house-organists at the Rialto Theatre = in >Joliet, Il. playing the 4m/24r Barton. >In the Army, I played for Special Services sometimes AND was a Spec-4 = Field >Radio Mechanic. >Once a civilian again, I resumed the music business when mom and dad retired >to Florida. I had the pleasure of working with Don Baker,Tiny Tim, Rudy >Valee, Frank Fontaine and the Harmonica Rascals as house organist at the >Orpheum in Clearwater Fl. >At the same time, I sold WurliTzer organs and pianos, and installed a = 2m/9r >Wurli at Central Music in Clearwater. The instrument is now in a = residence >up the road from me here in central Indiana- thats how I wound up here! >What started as a hobby, is now a full-time business of restoring and >servicing pipe organs, player pianos, street organs and old clocks. > >I'm glad to join you all, and hope to make friends and help others in any >way I can with their "beast in the house". > >Rick dutchorgan@svs.net > http://www.svs.net/Dutch > > > > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org >Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >with the following in the BODY of the message: >Unsubscribe DIYAPASON-L(-Digest) > >    
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] Re: Robert Morton Photoplayer console type From: "John Burns" <burnsjr@prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 03:00:07 -0500   Roc,   Was that the one in the town just east of Pittsburgh that was on the = Theatre Organs classified and needed to be removed by early Dec. 1999?   John   -----Original Message----- From: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org [mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of GRSCoLVR@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 1:25 AM To: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org Subject: [Residence Organs] Re: Robert Morton Photoplayer console type     Hi Bob--- Its been a while since we have *talked*--- My Morton is an organ console,,,,from which the player had been removed = and a third manual *frenched* into the player space. It was (I was told) originally installed in a theatre in Ohio, but I have no details that seem reliable yet. ....It was purchased from and I removed it from a house in Pittsburgh. Regards, ---Roc        
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Console Up ! From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:43:40 -0500   Hi John... The plumber you mentioned in your post- was he by any chance Bob Erickson? Bob had a style D in his basement outside of Joliet- = complete with ice cream parlour. A mutual friend brought me to Bobs house several times to play the Wurli. I think Bob has since sold the instrument.   Also, about D.S. Wentz-- in the 60s as a kid, I knew a man who worked for him. Jim Vandernorth by name. Jim took me to Wentz's shop at 147th Pl.- or some obscure place like that. Jim and his wife lived not far from me in Evergreen Park, Il. I remember one day I was out walking and saw a red box-truck with white organ pipes painted on the side parked behind an apartmnent building. I started knocking on doors (I can be pretty ballsey at times), and found = Jim.   Rick      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Robert Morton Photoplayer console type From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:23:58 EST   Hi John-- Yeah,,,that was the one. Negotiations pointed to the organ being east of Pittsburgh,,,however, upon arrival, it was ascertained the organ itself = was located near another hours drive away from the original east location. Regards, ---Roc  
(back) Subject: blower motor questions, lubricant, etc. From: "Brian Graham" <bgraham@geaf.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:23:55 -0600   Hello out there!   I'm just about to the point in my organ refurbishment where I'll need to get the blower up and running.   It's an Orgoblo, 2 hp, 5 in. wind, 3 phase   I opened the oil caps (probably not the correct term) to see if it had any =   lubricant in it.   It does. It has a very viscous substance somewhat thicker than bearing grease in it.   Is this what it's supposed to look like? What sort of lubricant is recommended, and where can you get it?   I don't know when this blower ran last. Is it imperative that I take it = to an electrical motor shop for maintenance before I power it up?   Thanks!!   -Brian Graham Lawrence, KS Estey II/18  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] blower motor questions, lubricant, etc. From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:37:55 EST   Brian--- In my opinion, it would be advisable to take the end caps off the motor = and clean out the bearing cellars, remove and wash out the bearings, and repack/reassemble with a good grade of ball and roller bearing grease, I = have used Lubrico-M-6 for over 40 years with excellent success. If this is = within your abilities,,,why not? If not,,,a motor shop could put it back in first =   class condition for you,,and also megger the windings to see if there has been deterioration from grease being flung around inside by overgreasing,,,which is the most common fault that one finds. Replacement motors for the Orgoblo's are a bit tuff these days, because of =   the long shafts. I would certainly, one way or the other, give the motor a =   good checkout before powering up. For what its worth--- ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] blower motor questions, lubricant, etc. From: "DanielWHopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:41:16 -0400   Please correct me if I am wrong..... I have heard that 3 in 1 oil is not good to lubricate electric motors.It = seems to me that I was talking with someone that has had motors burn out because = of this ,I think that it was a furnace man. He recomended using car motor oil,which will not end up baking on the surface of the motor shaft. Would anyone here Recomend ,Car Motor Oil???????? Daniel    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] blower motor questions, lubricant, etc. From: "DanielWHopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:46:02 -0400   I also have a second blower of 1/2 hp ,It is alot smaller than my big 1hp = blower I need to get a motor for it that has I think a 3/4" width shaft by about = I would say a 4 inch shaft long I havent really Measured it the motor is shot The windings is really bad Is there any hope for a motor like this Can I get a reasonably priced motor ,what would they start at in $ Daniel    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] blower motor questions, lubricant, etc. From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:09:45 EST   Daniel-- In my opinion and experience, 20W,,,,,is the motor oil to use. Multi-vis = oils like 10W30 and 20W50 did not exist when most of those motors were manufactured,,,the shaft varnish is one of the most prevalent results from =   using 3inOne oil,,,which is really about 7-8 weight and does not provide a =   good film of oil between plain bearing and shaft so causes some heating,,which produces varnish type compounds on the shaft, which slows = the motor some, more at startup, and causes more heating,,,and a downhill = spiral till the shaft seizes. Make sure the oil rings that carry up the oil over the top of the plain bearing are free to turn, you can check that with the top big cap open. Hope this helps you-- Cheers, ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] blower motor questions, lubricant, etc. From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:36:00 -0500   I took my 3-phase motor to a shop and had them check it out and run it. = Oil I use in mine is 30-weight motor oil, and bearing grease in the grease = cup. Works for me!   Rick      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] blower motor questions, lubricant, etc. From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:37:59 -0500   3-in-1 oil IS too light an oil to use. Use 30-weight motor oil.      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] short intro as requested. From: <DBnMOPS@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:42:17 EST   Hello List, Following Dave's request to introduce ourselves: I'm Doug Eyman, in Lancaster, PA. I have two playing pipe organs: A = 2/3 Wicks in a room over the garage, and a 4/28 "Funk & Wagnalls" crammed into = my basement. The latter began as a 2/4 Hall unit organ from a local church, = and has grown over the years, one, two or three ranks at a time, to a 3/16, = and currently a 4/28, with a Moller drawknob console. I'm interested in both Theatre and Classical organs, with a preference for Classical, and play mostly for my own "amazement." Most of the ranks are from church organs = (5" wind), but there are four 10"-pressure Wurlitzer ranks in there, too. A = few ranks are straight, many duplexed, and one Flute is highly unified. Everything is recycled, except for some "flexaust" and minor leathering, = and all installed by me, over the years. Necessity is the mother of = invention, and quite a bit can be fit under a 7-ft. ceiling! I'm not too swift with electronics, however, and I have some MIDI equipment that's still awaiting =   installation, to permit recording and playback. I hope to add about 6 = more ranks, before I'm completely out of space. I'm also interested in Reed Organs, and have about 30 of those, from 2-man. and pedal, down to 14-note Organettes. Oh yes, I'm crazy, and my wife is VERY understanding! Visitors are welcome; just call or e-mail ahead. I have a few remaining extra parts available, including a Moller = 3-man. drawknob console and a few offset chests. There are several smaller, complete used pipe organs available from local builders nearby. If = anyone's interested, let me know and I can put you in touch with them. There are = also several more home installations in this area, belonging to people who = aren't yet on this list, or even on the Internet. Doug    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] blower motor questions, lubricant, etc. From: "Kurt Schlieter" <kschliet@execpc.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:52:56 -0600   It's common here in Wisconsin to replace the motors with newer ones by = having a new shaft made, fabricating a mount with pillow block bearings, and then belt-driving the shaft with a new motor. This also allows you to increase = the blower output by increasing the shaft speed. (assuming the use of a much = more powerful motor of course). Floating around somewhere on the internet is my excel spreadsheet which allows you to calculate the correct motor size for = a given required output. Kurt      
(back) Subject: Re: Introduction From: <Mohman@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 19:56:36 EST   Hi List,   By way of introduction, my name is Mike Ohman from Provo, Utah. I have a 3/26 Wurli. I am curator of musical instruments at Brigham Young = University. We have 13 pipe organs on campus (for which I am responsible) among = hundreds of other instruments. I am an avid theatre organist having played at the Organ Loft in Salt Lake City and as a guest organist at the Tabernacle on Temple Square. I also run a pipe organ repair and maintenance company = called Ridges Pipe Organs. Nice to be with you!   Mike  
(back) Subject: Blowers and Introduction From: "Kelvin Smith" <KelvinSmith@untraveledroad.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:50:30 -0700   Hello to all,   First about blowers. It is wise to ask these questions. If I had it to do over again, I would take my blower motor in for a rebuild before using it. As it is, I am in the market for a blower now because the motor died. I took it into a shop to see if it could be repaired and they said it could be rewound and put in good shape for a couple hundred dollars, but when they took it apart they found a lot of irrepairable damage which probably could have been avoided if I had had it worked over before I used it. Of course, I don't know that, maybe it already had serious problems, but for the price it is worth having it looked at.   About my organ project. I built my own house around the organ and have a sizable room to work with. I have bought two organs and combined them, along with pipes and parts from other places. I had 28 ranks playing and was ready to hook up 36 ranks. Just before Christmas I acquired a 4 manual Moller drawknob console and am making plans to computerize it with an Artisan control system.   Just after I committed to buying the console our car gave out and we had = to replace that, and about a week after Christmas the blower quit and I will have to replace that, or at least the motor. So that's the adventure of = it.   The objective of my organ is to have as large and versatile an instrument as possible on the budget. Second to that has been to get something = playing with what I have to work with. I have told myself many times, just get it working, we'll worry about how it sounds later. But I had some = requirements in what I acquired. I didn't want any direct electric chests, nor any open toe voiced pipes. I wanted pipework from before about 1960. That is not to say I don't appreciate the more classical approaches, they just didn't fit my plans or my budget.   I wasn't looking for a practise instrument, because I had nothing to practise for unless I had an instrument of my own worth performing on.   On the organist side, I have a master's degree in organ performance, and like Mike Ohman, have played recitals at the Salt Lake Tabernacle as a guest organist. Mike and I are well acquainted and I got his advice on the blower right off. His advice was to repair the motor. That was based on ball park price I was given by the people at the motor repair place before they had seen the motor. Now that they've looked at it, I have to reconsider.   Back to blowers. It was handy to have all these postings on the subject today. The options are to get another used blower, get a replacement motor for this one, or to buy a new blower. I talked to Mr. White at White = Blower and he recommended a 5 hp blower which would run about $4000 total. It has the advantages of being new and therefore (presumably) reliable, also it = is relatively small and light weight. It could be shipped here rather than me having to go get it. I also read Kurt's posting with interest. Maybe that would be a lower cost and faster way of accomplishing the same objective. It would be easier to install (no relocating windlines.) The other option is to find some used blower. I had a lead on one, but it may have fizzled out. I am a little worried about how to make sure it would last a while. I would be happy to hear suggestions and recommendations.   Kelvin Paris, ID      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Blowers and Introduction From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:00:41 EST   Kelvin--- If you would give me all the nameplate particulars on your failed = motor,,,I will check my collection and see if I have a good used one for you,,,and = the price will be right! I have never heard a belt driven Spencer Orgoblo that =   was as quiet as with its original motor and new bearings! Regards, ---Roc  
(back) Subject: Greetings From: <KriderSM@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:16:44 EST   I am Stan Krider. I work for a central Ohio pipe organ company. My wife = does not share my interest in theatre organs, however, she will accompany me to =   some of the more spectacular concerts, read Sanfilippo, Lord & Taylor (nee =   Wanamakers), etc.   Since I don't have the money needed to thow at my own pipe organ, I live vicariously through the experiences of those who can afford to. I helped install a nearly 50 rank Austin, complete with Universal Chest, about two years ago. What an experience.   I am also a member of the Central Ohio Theatre Organ Society and the = Columbus Chapter AGO. My personal goal is to encourage people who have built pipe organs in their homes (and elsewhere) regularly invite young people into their homes, two or three at a time. During these Open Console/Organ = Crawls let the youngsters play the instruments and tour (if convenient) the = chambers.   The seeds of organ appreciation must be planted in these youngsters if our =   churches and organ clubs are to have a new crop of organists when these = older ones die.   Musically, Stan Krider  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Blowers and Introduction From: "Kelvin Smith" <KelvinSmith@untraveledroad.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 19:46:03 -0700   Roc,   I will try to get this information tomorrow. The motor is at the shop still, sixty miles from home. I will be in Seattle and if they can't read it for me, I will stop by there after I get back. Thanks for your help.   Kelvin   >Kelvin--- >If you would give me all the nameplate particulars on your failed = motor,,,I >will check my collection and see if I have a good used one for you,,,and = the >price will be right! I have never heard a belt driven Spencer Orgoblo = that >was as quiet as with its original motor and new bearings! >Regards, >---Roc > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org >Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >with the following in the BODY of the message: >Unsubscribe DIYAPASON-L(-Digest)        
(back) Subject: Another quick intro From: "Frank Vanaman" <fvanaman@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:21:27 -0500   Hi Y'all   I'm Frank Vanaman. I'm situated in Baltimore, and working on a low-to-modest pressure residential scaled house organ. My basic concept is a unit organ unified along theatre lines, but with a more petite scale than a real theatre organ.   I'm expecting the organ to not exceed 10 or 11 ranks, though it will be operated from a 4 manual theatre type console, newly adapted into an old Link shell whose contents had already been removed and replaced with other, somewhat undistinguished material (it's a long story).   Most of the chests will be home-built of all electric action (more on this as I've got time), although there are some existing electropneumatic chests which will also be used.   It's all one big science fair project, though hopefully will turn out some musical results.   You can see some pictures of the console at: http://fvanaman.home.mindspring.com/frank/projects.htm   and some other generic organ stuff mixed in at: http://fvanaman.home.mindspring.com/frank   So there. Frank  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Introduction From: "mike mcdonald" <pipeorganman@localaccess.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 20:20:49 -0800   Hi I just joined the Diyapasion-L group today, do you have or know of any = one that has an old oboe I can convert into a post horn for my Wurlitzer. I = have a nice 15 rank and am only in need of a topper of a voice Thanks Mike = McDonald   Mohman@aol.com wrote:   > Hi List, > > By way of introduction, my name is Mike Ohman from Provo, Utah. I have = a > 3/26 Wurli. I am curator of musical instruments at Brigham Young = University. > We have 13 pipe organs on campus (for which I am responsible) among = hundreds > of other instruments. I am an avid theatre organist having played at = the > Organ Loft in Salt Lake City and as a guest organist at the Tabernacle = on > Temple Square. I also run a pipe organ repair and maintenance company = called > Ridges Pipe Organs. Nice to be with you! > > Mike > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > Residence Pipe Organs. > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > with the following in the BODY of the message: > Unsubscribe DIYAPASON-L(-Digest)    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Blowers and Introduction From: "mike mcdonald" <pipeorganman@localaccess.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 20:27:27 -0800   Hi I just joined the groug today and read about Kelvin problem I also have = a small spencer two hp with three 21" fans I changed the last fan and = replaced it with a 25" fan and now the motor over heats in about 15 minites . I think = I need a bigger 220v sinvle or three phase motor but I am not sure ? Any ideas??? = Mike McDonald                       GRSCoLVR@aol.com wrote:   > Kelvin--- > If you would give me all the nameplate particulars on your failed = motor,,,I > will check my collection and see if I have a good used one for you,,,and = the > price will be right! I have never heard a belt driven Spencer Orgoblo = that > was as quiet as with its original motor and new bearings! > Regards, > ---Roc > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > Residence Pipe Organs. > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > with the following in the BODY of the message: > Unsubscribe DIYAPASON-L(-Digest)