DIYAPASON-L Digest #55 - Tuesday, March 7, 2000
 
Re: [Residence Organs]  solder guns
  by "Jerry Smith" <smithj@iamerica.net>
Need Tuner advice
  by "Eric Sagmuller" <ess4@psu.edu>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Need Tuner advice
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com>
Re: [Residence Organs] Need Tuner advice
  by "Bart Kleineweber" <prinzipal8@hotmail.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Need Tuner advice
  by "DanielWHopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] solder guns From: "Jerry Smith" <smithj@iamerica.net> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 16:02:05 -0600   could you please take me off your mailer for the month of March because = will not be on my computer. Thanks Jerry    
(back) Subject: Need Tuner advice From: "Eric Sagmuller" <ess4@psu.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:00:12 -0500   Hi All,   I have some money saved to buy a tuner although I'll probably need more. The two types I'm aware of are the 1. Audible only kind and 2. Audible with a visual indicator. I borrowed a Korg tuner to tune my organ for the first time. It was fairly easy to use but the treble pipes didn't seem to tune quite accurate. I suspect it's from the pipes warming up slightly from the lights in the chamber. Using beats I don't think this could happen. I used the visual indicator all the way up.   One necessity of the tuner I buy is that it be a multi-temperament type. I want to tune to a "well" temperament. The tuner I borrowed only tuned equal.   The main question I have, is it better to tune with beats than a visual indicator? The visual ones cost more of course. I am aware of two multi-temperament models at this point. One is the Violab Pitchman which is audible only. The other is a Korg model MT 1200 which is both audible and visual. I don't want to spend more than I need to to do the job right.   Any ideas out there.   Thanks, Eric  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Need Tuner advice From: "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 13:40:02 -0800   Eric Sagmuller wrote:   > I have some money saved to buy a tuner although I'll probably need > more. The two types I'm aware of are the 1. Audible only kind and 2. > Audible with a visual indicator.   This will be of interest to me, hopefully sometime within the next 5 or 6 = years. The biggest problem occupying my 16k memory right now is worry over accurately tuning = my two 16' stops, a Bourdon and a Lieblich Gedeckt (possibly Gedackt). It seems to me a = visual indicator would be especially helpful for setting that bottom octave on the proper beats. = Maybe I am concerned over nothing, and should be satisfied with simply getting the stoppers somewhat = airtight in the tops of the pipes? I doubt that any virtuosos will be be clamoring to make = recordings on this instrument   Mac Hayes    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Need Tuner advice From: "Bart Kleineweber" <prinzipal8@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:54:39 CST   Hi Eric;   I think we talked about this before. If I were you I would go ahead and = buy the Pitchman. I have one that I use for both tuning the harpsichord and = the organ. It's great, tunes to many different pitches and more temperaments than I'll ever use. If you can tune listening to and counting the beats--its the way to go. If you can't you should learn. Visual displays are for the beginner, and like you say, can't get the treble pipes that close.   There are methods for tuning well temperaments with only one tuning fork counting the beats in certain intervals. There are many experts in well-temperament tuning on the Harpsichord-L list hosted by the same university as Piporg-L. You could join just to ask them how, and once you =   get the information you need you could unsubscribe.   For Werkmeister III, for example, you tune from C with a C tuning fork, making the first four fifths perfect (C-G-D-A) then make the E a perfect major third from C, and then tune E-B-F#-C# perfect fifths, then narrow = the remaining fifths by a certain number of beats, I can't remember exactly. Actually, I'm not sure if any of this paragraph is right, so let's just = use it as an example. To tell you the truth, it was much easier for me just = to buy the Pitchman tuner than to try to get the temperament right when it's not equal temperament. Equal temperament is an equal number of beats = narrow at each fifth.   Bart Kleineweber Chicago, IL prinzipal8@hotmail.com     ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Need Tuner advice From: "DanielWHopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 18:16:31 -0400   Hey there Eric I use a Korg AT-12 Chromatic tuner It works good I paid 259$ canadian for mine last year I dont know if that particular model is made now but this one was recomended by an Organ Builder Daniel