DIYAPASON-L Digest #195 - Thursday, November 30, 2000
An EMAIL from October (I'm very behind!)
  by "Richard Schneider, President" <>
Pipework for Sale
  by "David Scribner" <>
My home organ project (long)
  by "Henry Paff" <>

(back) Subject: An EMAIL from October (I'm very behind!) From: "Richard Schneider, President" <> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 18:45:00 -0600       Jane and Dave Whitmore wrote: > > Hi John, > > I saw your post about acquiring the inventory of the defunct builder. Do > you perhaps have a list of the stuff? I've been looking for some 601 > magnets to make a small string offset chest and some small flanges and > tubing to mount an 8' diapason horizontally.   Hi, All.   Could someone tell me who is the defunct builder? Privately if of no interest to anyone other than me.   Faithfully,   Richard Schneider SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Organbuilders 41-43 Johnston St. P. O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX Business EMAIL Personal EMAIL Web Page URL  
(back) Subject: Pipework for Sale From: "David Scribner" <> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:17:14 -0600   Hi Folks,   As some of you already know, I recently moved to Little Rock, AR to work full-time for Nichols and Simpson, Inc., Organbuilders <>. Today, while we were moving pipe work around the shop to make space for a delivery that arrived this morning for an instrument in progress, it was decided that there are some things that we need to sell. Since I also am the Webmaster for the American Institute of Organbuilders <> I have the list to publish on that site but wanted to pass along the listing to the members of this list as well.   All of the ranks are in good condition and are FOB Little Rock, AR. Packing and shipping might be able to be arranged at additional cost, though we would prefer pickup.   16' Metal Bourdon - 61 pipes from a 1984 Casavant - $2,200   8' Hooded Trumpet - 56 pipes, 5" Scale at 8'C, 8" wind pressure from the same 1984 Casavant - $2,500   2' Blockflute - 61 pipes, spotted metal, Aeolian/Skinner - voiced by Roy Perry - $500   4' Chimney Flute - 61 pipes, Moller/Casavant, spotted metal with inside chimneys, high arched cut-up - $150   If you need more information on any of these you can either email me or Tim Bovard of this list at If you are interested in purchasing any of these please email Joe Nichols at:   As we go through some of the other pipework and parts there will be further additions to this list which I will post here.   I will also be listing two consoles that I own personally sometime in the next few days. One is a 3 manual and the other is a 2 manual. If anyone has any interest in either of these please email me directly   David  
(back) Subject: My home organ project (long) From: "Henry Paff" <> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:18:05 -0800 (PST)   >From: David Scribner   >Over the last several months we have had a good number of people join us. I invite them to send an introduction to the list telling about themselves and their projects.     Hi everyone,   I=92ll take David up on his invitation, and hope I don=92t bore you to death with the description of my organ:   I bought the majority of a 1918 Kilgen electropneumatic action pipe organ in 1975, and installed it as a 9 rank organ in my living room. The room is L shaped, and the organ sits in the foot of the L, which has become a chamber 11=92 wide by 9=92 deep by 8=92 high. The chamber has a wall with two clear Plexiglas panels and swell shutters in the middle. These swell shutters controlled the entire organ in this first incarnation. The console was placed in the remainder of the living room which measures 13=92 by 22 1/2=92. It was a 2 manual Wurlitzer amplified reed organ console with the electronics torn out of it. The blower sits in a shed outside the chamber and both the wind and the return air to the blower go through a window I removed from the wall. It took a year before I had the first note playing, and 11 months into the project I wondered what I had gotten myself into. But then with the first notes playing it all became worth it.   It=92s disposition was: Great: 8=92 Melodia 8=92 Dulciana 4=92 Octave 2=92 Harmonic Flute     Swell: 16=92 Lieblich Gedeckt 8=92 Gedeckt 8=92 Viola 8=92 Voix celeste 4=92 Gedeckt 2 2/3 Gedeckt 2=92 Gedeckt 8=92 Vox Humana   Pedal: 32=92 Resultant 16=92 lieblich gedeckt 8=92 gedeckt 4=92 gedeckt   Fast and slow tremolos which affected the entire organ since I only owned one reservoir.   The above only adds up to 8 ranks =96 guess I=92ve repressed what the 9th rank was.     The Reincarnation: In 1987 I went with Jess Eschback and Gene Bedient on the Summer Institute for French Organ Studies, and had a chance to examine the construction of both French classic (Cliquot )and French romantic (Cavaille-Coll, Merklin, and Puget) organs in good detail.   So after I returned I tore the organ out and reinstalled it to create a pseudo French romantic organ. I got 15 ranks into the same chamber, and have a 2nd set of swell shades halfway back to create the swell division. The original shades remain on the front wall, and are set partway open to make the volume appropriate for the room. In front of the wall I=92ve installed two ranks of what was to become a French positif division, but the ranks were always out of tune with the rest of the organ because of temperature differences between the chamber and the rest of the house. So I=92ve not done anything more with the positif, and usually don=92t use it.   So the organ now has the following disposition with a listing of pipe sources:   Great: 16 Bourdon (the 1918 Kilgen lieblich gedeckt) 8=92 Principal 1918 Kilgen 8=92 Bourdon 1918 Kilgen 8=92 Flute Harmonique created from 1955 Moller diapasons changed into harmonic flutes as taught to me by Manual Rosales (easy to do; write if interested in how) 8=92 Violoncelle 1927 Kimball 4=92 Principal =96 extension of the 8=92 principal 4=92 Octave =96 made from pipes from an 1800=92s mixture with extra whatever pipes for 1-12 2=92 Doublette =96 these are cool pipes and were new from a French pipemaker. These principals have tuning scrolls, which give them that =93honky=94 sound that French principals have. 16=92 Bombarde (tc) =96 1-37 are from a partial old rank I bought for a song and have almost parallel shallots, 38-61 are from a partial theatre organ rank I got =96 I replaced the high pressure thick reed tongues with thinner ones for the 3 3/4=94 of wind the great is on. 8=92 Trompette =96 from 16=92 bombarde 4=92 Clairon =96 from 8=92 trompette (unification galore of this reed)   Positif: 8=92 Bourdon (early 20th century Estey 8=92 Cromorne 1890 (?) Ryder or Johnson (Planned but not installed: 8=92 flute harmonique, 8=91 salicional, 8=92 unda maris, 4=92 flute douce, 2 2/3 nazard, 2=92 doublette, 1 3/5=92 tierce, 8=92trompette)   Swell: 16=92 Bourdon (tc) 8=92 Flute Harmonique 1920=92s Casavant 8=92 Viole de Gambe 1940=92s Kilgen, really good French like sound 8=92 Voix celeste 1940=92s Kilgen 4=92 Flute Octaviante =96 extension of 8=92 flute harmonique 2 2/3 Nazard =96 extension of 8=92 flute harmonique 2=92 Octavin =96 1918 Kilgen harmonic flute 1 3/5 Tierce =96 extension of 8=92 flute harmonique 16=92 Bombarde (tc) =96 from a quite good 1960=92s Casavant, has parallel shallots. 8=92 Trompette =96 from swell 16=92 Bombarde 8=92 Basson-Hautbois =96 1-12 are Basson from unknown builder; 13-61 are oboe from probably late 1800=92s Kilgen 8=92 Voix Humaine =96 1918 Kilgen =96 I cut the long boots down (improved tuning stability) and using a Dremel tool with a sanding disk I opened the shallots into parallel ones (big improvement in making the pipes sound more French) 4=92 Clairon =96 from 16=92 Bombarde Tremolo doux (slow) Tremolo Tournemire (very fast like on the recordings Durufle made of the 5 Tournemire improvisations recorded in 1930)   Pedal: 32=92 Contrebasse =96 Devtronix electronic stop 32=92 Bourdon =96 Devtronix electronic stop 16=92 Contrebasse - Devtronix electronic stop 16=92 Bourdon =96 the 1918 Kilgen Lieblich Gedeckt 8=92 Flute - Devtronix electronic stop 8=92 Gamba - Devtronix electronic stop 4=92 Flute - Devtronix electronic stop 32=92 Bombarde - Devtronix electronic stop 16=92 Bombarde - Devtronix electronic stop 8=92 Trompette - Devtronix electronic stop 4=92 Clairon - Devtronix electronic stop   Some things are really good and some are pretty bad.   Good things: Great: wonderful bourdon, combo of flute harmonique and violoncelle, 4=92 octave, and 2=92 doublette. Also the 1918 Kilgen bourdon was really improved by filling in the nicks with, are you ready for this, modeling clay. The clay has held up fine all these years, leaves the pipes restorable, and gives these pipes a wonderful, ever so slightly chiffy sound. This stop plus the 2' doublette are wonderful together.   Swell: wonderful strings and unified trompette, the harmonic flute works better in creating a fake cornet (8, 4, 2 2/3, 2, 1 3/5 than a bourdon can. The voix humaine with the fast tremolo is very convincingly French.   Positif: Wonderful cromorne.   Pedal: The Devtronix 32=92 flue stops are very acceptable. I changed the =93voicing=94 of the Devtronix flue stops a lot, generally adding capacitors to get rid of those disgusting old harmonics that make older electronic organs sound so awful. Kind of cool is that the 8=92 octave of the 8=92 gamba with the swell Viole de gambe coupled often celestes a little making for a very warm sound. This is really good in the winter when the chamber is generally a little cooler and therefore flatter in pitch than in the summer. The electronic stops help a lot in making a small organ in a tight space work   Bad things: Great: the unified trompette rank doesn=92t sound very French at all. Swell: too much unification, but space is really tight. Positif: Out of tune! Pedal: The electronic Bombarde 16=92 is bearable when combined with enough other stuff, but without much along with it it=92s not pleasant. The electronic 4=92 Clairon sounds so bad I never use it. Same with the 8' trompette. Nowadays one can get much better electronics than I did 10 years ago.   Acoustics: a 3 bedroom ranch style house ain=92t no stone cathedral; you stop playing and the sound stops cold, sometimes leaving you cold.   So there you have it. I=92ve got most of the pipes to finish off a pretty good French positif, but will not install them where the positif is presently.   The whole thing has been a source of much joy to first plan, then construct (along with frustration until those first notes played), plus the emotional fulfillment of playing music I love, and finally the fun of anticipating future changes/additions to it.   If you are planning an organ, or in the early stages of constructing one, keep going =96 you=92ll love it when you get it playing.   I'll stop rambling for now.   Best wishes,   Lou Paff     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products.