DIYAPASON-L Digest #161 - Saturday, October 14, 2000
 
Stoplist Database
  by <DEMPAR1@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: [Residence Organs] Building my Own -Parts  ne
  by "Mike McDonald" <pipeorganman@localaccess.com>
Re: [Residence Organs] Re: [Residence Organs] Building my Own -Parts need
  by "Jason Comet" <diapason32@hotmail.com>
[Residence Organs]  Re: [Residence Organs] Building my Own -  Parts neede
  by "Hugh Knapton" <knapton@superaje.com>
blower help
  by "william baron" <bourdon_8@yahoo.com>
Re: The Isle of Man residence organ
  by "Lowell Johnson" <ljohn1247@email.msn.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: The Isle of Man residence organ
  by "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net>
Re: [Residence Organs] Re: [Residence Organs] Building my Own - Parts nee
  by "Jason Comet" <diapason32@hotmail.com>
Re: [Residence Organs] The Isle of Man residence organ
  by "Frank Vanaman" <fvanaman@speakeasy.org>
Re: [Residence Organs]  blower help
  by "Jan S. VanDerStad" <dorian@nac.net>
 

(back) Subject: Stoplist Database From: <DEMPAR1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 08:39:39 EDT   One of my projects for the coming year is to build a database of = individual stop lists for all presently existing theatre organs. This information, as = it is collected, will be made available to everyone through the ATOS SMGC webpage. The success of this project will depend on the cooperation we receive from other organ owners and groups out there. If any of you have = an existing list,or the time to document those instruments under your care, please email me privately with the information and I will include your submittals as I receive them. It would also be helpful to have a brief description of present status of the instrument and history if you have = that information. I believe this information is not only valuable historically = but it will benefit musicians who may be faced with playing one of these instruments in the future.  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: [Residence Organs] Building my Own -Parts needed From: "Mike McDonald" <pipeorganman@localaccess.com> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 13:19:30 -0700   I don't think you will want to pay frt that is more than the stuff is = worth. I live in washington state. Mike   Jason Comet wrote:   > >where are you located? > > I am in Upstate NY. (Watertown, NY) > > Jason > = _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at = http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > Residence Pipe Organs. > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: [Residence Organs] Building my Own -Parts needed From: "Jason Comet" <diapason32@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 16:52:47 EDT   Okay, but I'll keep you in mind just in case I do happen to be out that = way. Maybe then I can pick something up. (rectifier, swell motors or what)   Jason Comet     >From: Mike McDonald <pipeorganman@localaccess.com> >Reply-To: "Residence Organ List" <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> >To: Residence Organ List <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> >Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: [Residence Organs] Building my Own >-Parts needed >Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 13:19:30 -0700 > >I don't think you will want to pay frt that is more than the stuff is >worth. >I live in washington state. Mike > >Jason Comet wrote: > > > >where are you located? > > > > I am in Upstate NY. (Watertown, NY) > > > > Jason > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > > Residence Pipe Organs. > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org >   _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.    
(back) Subject: [Residence Organs] Re: [Residence Organs] Building my Own - Parts needed From: "Hugh Knapton" <knapton@superaje.com> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 18:22:07 -0400   Jason   I may have a few of the things you are looking for! I am about 2 hours North of you.   Might I suggest that you should contact your local builder - David Raville at (315) 649-2216. I think you will find him very helpful... and he may also have items you require.           >>where are you located? > >I am in Upstate NY. (Watertown, NY) > >Jason -- Hugh Knapton organ builder Fallbrook, Ontario, Canada  
(back) Subject: blower help From: "william baron" <bourdon_8@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 15:30:18 -0700 (PDT)   Hello everyone Today I got my blower hooked up to electric. I threw the switch and WOW, THIS THING IS LOUD! Something has to be wrong. As soon as I turn the power off its quiet. So it must be the motor. Does anyone have any suggestions.   It's a kinetic blower. Motor is 3/4 hp single phase 110 volt.   Thanks, Bill     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: The Isle of Man residence organ From: "Lowell Johnson" <ljohn1247@email.msn.com> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 18:24:55 -0500   I am new to the list and do not know if the article in "The Diapason" October, 2000, has already been discussed. The author describes the = design of a 4 rank pipe organ fit in very limited space. A stopped diapason repeats the 16' and the 8' octave and is the only rank extended below = tenor c. A soft 12 pipe stopped flute quint is used to produce a 16' resultant. Has anyone on the list had a satisfactory result using an accoustic bass = for the 16' octave of a small home organ?   Lowell Johnson Barrington, IL          
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: The Isle of Man residence organ From: "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 16:40:39 -0700   I would state that NO accoustic 16' is as effective as the 'real thing'. That doesn't say that accoustic 16' doesn't have its proper place, just that it doesn't do as good a job. If I were strapped for space (as every home-installer IS), I'd look for a manual bourdon 16', and use that for my pedal bass. Those 16' pipes are much smaller than the pedal bourdons, and are often already mitred to fit in small swell boxes. The bottom 12 pipes of the wooden 16' set that I have are only 57" wide, and are mitred to fit under an 8' ceiling on their chest. A very economical use of floorspace. They have another unexpected but welcome characteristic; their speech is much more prompt than regular pedal bourdons, making them seem louder and more intense than they really are. They speak on 5", but would probably work quite well on less. At 18:24 10/14/2000 -0500, Lowell Johnson wrote: >I am new to the list and do not know if the article in "The Diapason" >October, 2000, has already been discussed. The author describes the = design >of a 4 rank pipe organ fit in very limited space. A stopped diapason >repeats the 16' and the 8' octave and is the only rank extended below = tenor >c. A soft 12 pipe stopped flute quint is used to produce a 16' = resultant. >Has anyone on the list had a satisfactory result using an accoustic bass = for >the 16' octave of a small home organ? > >Lowell Johnson >Barrington, IL > > > > > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > > >   Regards, Bob, in beautiful Lake County, California, USA NAWCC 140818 http://www.jps.net/rrloesch alternate mailto:cuckoobob@eudoramail.com    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: [Residence Organs] Building my Own - Parts needed From: "Jason Comet" <diapason32@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 20:17:30 EDT   Hugh, Yes! I know David VERY well. I talk with him regularly. I haven't been in contact with him since the start of this project, but = hope to be soon.   He has talked much of Fred and I have heard your name mentioned here and there.   Nice to hear from you.   Now, what may you have that I could use?   Thank you Jason Comet     >From: Hugh Knapton <knapton@superaje.com> >Reply-To: "Residence Organ List" <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> >To: "Residence Organ List" <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> >Subject: [Residence Organs] Re: [Residence Organs] Building my Own - = Parts >needed >Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 18:22:07 -0400 > >Jason > >I may have a few of the things you are looking for! I am about 2 >hours North of you. > >Might I suggest that you should contact your local builder - David >Raville at (315) 649-2216. I think you will find him very helpful... >and he may also have items you require. > > > > > >>>where are you located? >> >>I am in Upstate NY. (Watertown, NY) >> >>Jason >-- >Hugh Knapton >organ builder >Fallbrook, Ontario, Canada > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org >   _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] The Isle of Man residence organ From: "Frank Vanaman" <fvanaman@speakeasy.org> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 20:21:12 -0400   Hi everyone!   Lowell Johnson wrote-in-part: > > A soft 12 pipe stopped flute quint is used to produce a 16' resultant. > Has anyone on the list had a satisfactory result using an accoustic bass = for > the 16' octave of a small home organ? >   Well, the effect *can* be convincing if you don't have anything else to compare it to! I've tried some experiments, some with pipes, some with electronics, and the effect is not unconvincing-- until you add a real 16' tone and discover what was missing!   Bob L's thought that a little 16' manual bourdon could be fitted into the space *somehow* would also have been my first choice. I have entertained the thought of trying to build up a little micro-mini pipe organ with pedal 16' tone supplied through a quinting system (i.e., an 8' flute with a soft 5 1/3' quint), but I will have to wait until I get my *main* instrument playing!   A friend of mine here in Baltimore has an over-expanded Wicks cabinet organ which started out as a 2/2 and is now about a 2/7, and we noticed an interesting effect using the pedal 16' bourdon, 8' open diapason and 5-1/3' quint (derived from the bourdon/flute) together: it's almost as though a broad 16' string is playing. Almost as effective at 16' string imitation is the 8' diapason and 5-1/3' flute *without* the 16' bourdon itself!   Frank Vanaman Baltimore, MD  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] blower help From: "Jan S. VanDerStad" <dorian@nac.net> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 23:42:04 -0400   Hi Bill and list,   There are much quieter blowers out there, but harder to come by I imagine. A kinetic blower for a residence organ wouldn't be my first choice. But you could put a sound insulator box around it, that would help decrease the noise   You can also try going through the lubrication procedure and see if that helps. Maybe the bearings (if there are any) are shot. I've seen that happen too.   Jan VanDerStad