DIYAPASON-L Digest #164 - Tuesday, October 17, 2000
 
Re: [Residence Organs]  Looking for a vox
  by "william baron" <bourdon_8@yahoo.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Looking for a vox
  by "Duane Austin" <duanet@execpc.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Pedal pipes
  by "Frank Vanaman" <fvanaman@speakeasy.org>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Wiring and cables
  by <JFick@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  RE: [Residence Organs] Giant Inventory Sale
  by <GenieWaltr@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  RE: [Residence Organs] Giant Inventory  Sale
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Looking for a vox From: "william baron" <bourdon_8@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 04:38:59 -0700 (PDT)   I live in Grand Rapids, MI. I'm looking for 3-4".   --- Duane Austin <duanet@execpc.com> wrote: > Hi Bill > Where are you located and what pressure do you > need. > Duane >       __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Looking for a vox From: "Duane Austin" <duanet@execpc.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:20:17 -0500   Hi Bill I have a very nice Vox on 4 or 5 in of wind from a Wangren player organ, also some other pipe work from the same organ. I am located in Beloit, Wi. and the price is VERY reasonable E Mail me Privately if you are interested. Duane Austin duanet@execpc.com   william baron wrote:   > I live in Grand Rapids, MI. > I'm looking for 3-4". > > --- Duane Austin <duanet@execpc.com> wrote: > > Hi Bill > > Where are you located and what pressure do you > > need. > > Duane > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > Residence Pipe Organs. > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Pedal pipes From: "Frank Vanaman" <fvanaman@speakeasy.org> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 20:41:14 -0400   Hi Everyone!   Larry Chace wrote: > > I was glad to see the recent note from Frank Vanaman > <fvanaman@speakeasy.org> but was surprised that he didn't mention his > experiments with the Haskell form of Bourdon, something that he had told = me > about some time ago.   Oh. That's old news! from maybe about 5 years ago:   I took a BBB bourdon pipe (from a United States theatre organ which I've since sold): [internal width=3D4.75 inches, internal depth=3D5.5 inches, internal length (approx)=3D47 inches], and shoved in a zinc canister, made from an old violin diapason bass [length =3D 37 inches, diameter =3D 3.5 inches] and which had a cap soldered on, where the canister was inserted into the pipe with the open end *away* from the mouth; the stopper was then replaced, and the resulting pitch was FFF#.   That's not bad, and I think Larry's calculations at the time indicate that the canister size was *not* optimum, but a bit small in diameter.   > > If I were forced to use a resultant for the 16', I'd be tempted to try = to > carry the rank down as far as possible with real 16' pipes, switching to > the resultant only for the lowest ones. Even then, I'd try mitering or > Haskelling if at all possible. >   Ah! Well, then you could find a larger scaled 8' octave of stopped pipes, and see how low you could get the 8' CC pipe to play with the longest appropriate canister length (and of course the correct canister diameter such that the cross sectional area of the canister is 1/2 the cross sectional area of the pipe interior...), and produce the lower notes below that with the quinting scheme!   > So, Dr. Frank, have you done any more experiments with the Haskelled = Bourdon? >   Er, ah, well, ... no. My current plan for the house organ includes a very nice and clean Wurlitzer bourdon, and I would not be tempted to hack and saw them up to save space. If I were working with some no-name pipework, it would be very tempting, both from a space saving end and from the experimenting end.   I do plan, some time in the not too close future, to fiddle with an 'experimental' organ, made up from spare collected parts, but that's a way off...   Frank  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Wiring and cables From: <JFick@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 23:01:35 EDT   I certainly agree...punch blocks, commonly called 66-blocks, I believe are =   quite reliable. A good punchdown tool will cost some $40 US, and will feature an automatic impact unit within. Home Depot now has them. Color coding is another feature when used with the proper 25-pair and 200-pair phone cable.   Common 66-blocks have 50 rows. If you use the type that have two separate =   groups of IDT (insulation displacement technology) connectors in each row, =   then you really have 100 sets of twin punches, one for incoming wire and = one for the outgoing wire.   We plan to use them in a nine-rank reconstruction and installation in our church and have already asked the phone company for used blocks. We'll = also ask a local multi-conductor cable company for cable donations.   Jon Fick Westford, Vermont   << Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Wiring and cables From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 08:32:00 -0400 >from some builders that the punch-down, insulation-displacing connectors >are unreliable, but the telephone company (Pacific Bell, my former >employer) has been using them for years, and they wouldn't if they were = not >reliable. I cannot recall when a phone went out due to the punch block system. If = it did it is rare indeed. We wired up an entire Wurlitzer using that and the telephone cables including the 50 pin connectors. One pair per chest and you have lots of spares. It makes for a neat job and gives you color coding as well. Often the stuff can be found in a dumpster when an office building gets = remodeled. Running 9 years without fail. Now. do invest in the proper "punch tool" however. John V >>  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] RE: [Residence Organs] Giant Inventory Sale From: <GenieWaltr@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 23:35:36 EDT   Commercial or not, it appears that the website is no longer active. I for =   one would not object to postings of parts for sale, commercial or = otherwise.   Gene Walter  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] RE: [Residence Organs] Giant Inventory Sale From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 22:51:40 -0500   >Commercial or not, it appears that the website is no longer active. I = for >one would not object to postings of parts for sale, commercial or = otherwise. > >Gene Walter   Gene   i just checked the site and it seems to be working fine - the correct URL is: http://www.geocities.com/louisvilorgans/WPO/webber.html   David