DIYAPASON-L Digest #166 - Thursday, October 19, 2000
 
RE: [Residence Organs]  Wiring and cables
  by "Sam Vause" <vause@home.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Wiring and cables
  by "Forrest Radley" <radley@budget.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Wiring and cables
  by "Ron Natalie" <ron@sensor.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Wiring and cables
  by "John Durgan" <kimbalman@earthlink.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Wiring and cables
  by "John Durgan" <kimbalman@earthlink.net>
Punchdown "66-blocks"
  by <JFick@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Wiring and cables
  by <Pipewheezr@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Wiring and cables
  by "Ron Natalie" <ron@sensor.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Wiring and cables
  by "John Durgan" <kimbalman@earthlink.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Wiring and cables
  by "Ron Natalie" <ron@sensor.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Wiring and cables
  by "Jon Calvo" <jcalvo@mail.state.tn.us>
 

(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] Wiring and cables From: "Sam Vause" <vause@home.com> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 21:46:09 -0700   Most commercial electrical supply houses have them in stock, as do the = major consumer electronics parts stores on the west coast (such as Fry's Electronics). One web-based source of which I'm aware is at http://www.smarthome.com. --sam Sam Vause (Chandler, AZ)   -----Original Message----- From: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org [mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Mac Hayes Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 11:09 AM To: Residence Organ List Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Wiring and cables   Ron Natalie wrote: ... > The 66 block had by and large been replaced by the 110 block... > Another big plus is that you can get preterminated cables.   Where does one get 66-block (or 110-block)? Are they available at surplus outlets, or should they be gotten new, at a 66/110-block store?    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Wiring and cables From: "Forrest Radley" <radley@budget.net> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 21:56:05 -0700   And for tracing out all of these cables and wires that you just put together in your new punch down blocks, may I suggest the 701K Classic Tone/Probe Kit by Progressive Electronics, Inc? The kit consists of the = 77 HP tone generator to send a tone or test for continuity and the Model 200 EP inductive amplifier/probe. Both are contained in a woven polyester carrying case and are 9v battery powered. The 77 HP tone generator is connected to a wire or terminal strip at one end of your cable, and the inductive probe is used on the other end for locating the same wire. The inductive probe will pick up the signal just by being near the wire. The wire doesn't have to be stripped. It can easily locate the wire you are after out of a whole bunch or in several cables. Saves lots of time. Jensen has the 701K for $97 in their 1999/2000 catalog, and Specialized Products has the 701K in their Fall 2000 catalog for $99. This is the greatest thing since "sliced bread" for trouble shooting and tracing = wiring systems.   Forrest (in Southern Oregon tracing out wires in an old Estey)  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Wiring and cables From: "Ron Natalie" <ron@sensor.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 07:11:14 -0400       Forrest Radley wrote: > > And for tracing out all of these cables and wires that you just put > together in your new punch down blocks, may I suggest the 701K Classic > Tone/Probe Kit by Progressive Electronics, Inc?   I've got a tone/probe kit. You can find these under $100 on the web outlets if you look. I've got the slightly fancier one that filters out the 60 cycle hum.  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Wiring and cables From: "John Durgan" <kimbalman@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 07:01:13 -0500   Now this is an interesting and very usefull post.   John Mississippi -----Original Message----- From: Forrest Radley <radley@budget.net> To: Residence Organ List <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 11:55 PM Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Wiring and cables     >And for tracing out all of these cables and wires that you just put >together in your new punch down blocks, may I suggest the 701K Classic >Tone/Probe Kit by Progressive Electronics, Inc? The kit consists of the = 77 >HP tone generator to send a tone or test for continuity and the Model 200 >EP inductive amplifier/probe. Both are contained in a woven polyester >carrying case and are 9v battery powered. The 77 HP tone generator is >connected to a wire or terminal strip at one end of your cable, and the >inductive probe is used on the other end for locating the same wire. The >inductive probe will pick up the signal just by being near the wire. The >wire doesn't have to be stripped. It can easily locate the wire you are >after out of a whole bunch or in several cables. Saves lots of time. >Jensen has the 701K for $97 in their 1999/2000 catalog, and Specialized >Products has the 701K in their Fall 2000 catalog for $99. This is the >greatest thing since "sliced bread" for trouble shooting and tracing = wiring >systems. > >Forrest (in Southern Oregon tracing out wires in an old Estey) > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Wiring and cables From: "John Durgan" <kimbalman@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 07:10:32 -0500   This is another very helpful posting. Way to go guys   John Mississippi -----Original Message----- From: Mac Hayes <mach37@ptw.com> To: Residence Organ List <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Wiring and cables     >Hey, everybody, look what I found! Well, really, thanks to Ron Natalie >for doing the websearch, here are links with great pictures of 66M >50-pair punchdown blocks (and other configurations), multi-conductor >cables with and without connectors, and more. The prices for cables >with connectors made to custom lengths is amazingly low. > >http://www.phonegeeks.com/66m50pairpun.html >http://www.phonegeeks.com/concab.html > >I haven't finished looking at what's available on the site, I'm back to >browsing now... > >Mac Hayes > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Punchdown "66-blocks" From: <JFick@aol.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 08:46:22 EDT   The only place I've seen the smaller 110-type punchdown connectors is in RJ-45 network jacks...I've never seen a 110-block (yet).   The "Ideal" brand punchdown tool allows any number of different punchdown bits (66, 110, etc.) to be inserted. 66 and 110 punchdown bits are double-ended: one end has a cutoff blade = that cuts the wire flush while punching it into terminal. The other end = doesn't cut the wire, allowing you to daisy-chain it on to somewhere else.   66-blocks from www.phonegeeks.com are $15+ each. Used 66-blocks are available from www.meci.com, a catalog surplus store. (Under Telephone Accessories.) They are #550-0467, at $6.95 each. I've bought several in = the past.   Jon Fick Westford, Vermont   >> Mac Hayes wrote...   Where does one get 66-block (or 110-block)? Are they available at surplus outlets, or should they be gotten new, at a 66/110-block store?   And, what is a "preterminated cable?" A low-experience organ builder wants to know. Maybe I should convert to mechanical action to avoid these complications? ;-)        
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Wiring and cables From: <Pipewheezr@aol.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:54:37 EDT   If you are cheap like me and have Home Depot near buy, and who does'nt,you =   can build a buzzer and buzz out the wires when the colors start getting blurry after 6 or 7 hours of wiring.   Parts needed; door bell ringer something to mount it on alligator clips 2 and 2o feet of wire 110 pig tail. Works good. Have fun Dennis Allen  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Wiring and cables From: "Ron Natalie" <ron@sensor.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:09:45 -0400       Pipewheezr@aol.com wrote: > > If you are cheap like me and have Home Depot near buy, and who = does'nt,you > can build a buzzer and buzz out the wires when the colors start getting > blurry after 6 or 7 hours of wiring. >   The advantage of the probe is you don't have to actually touch the wire = that you are looking for. I noticed that Home Depots had the tone generators = in their phone wiring section, I don't recall if I saw the probes or not.   Besides, since I'm a network geek by trade, I have all this stuff anyhow.  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Wiring and cables From: "John Durgan" <kimbalman@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 12:50:48 -0500   Hi Folks,   I want to order one of these 701K probe sets. Does anyone have the URL to the Jensen site, or a phone number I can call to order a set.   John Mississippi -----Original Message----- From: Forrest Radley <radley@budget.net> To: Residence Organ List <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> Date: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 11:55 PM Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Wiring and cables     >And for tracing out all of these cables and wires that you just put >together in your new punch down blocks, may I suggest the 701K Classic >Tone/Probe Kit by Progressive Electronics, Inc? The kit consists of the = 77 >HP tone generator to send a tone or test for continuity and the Model 200 >EP inductive amplifier/probe. Both are contained in a woven polyester >carrying case and are 9v battery powered. The 77 HP tone generator is >connected to a wire or terminal strip at one end of your cable, and the >inductive probe is used on the other end for locating the same wire. The >inductive probe will pick up the signal just by being near the wire. The >wire doesn't have to be stripped. It can easily locate the wire you are >after out of a whole bunch or in several cables. Saves lots of time. >Jensen has the 701K for $97 in their 1999/2000 catalog, and Specialized >Products has the 701K in their Fall 2000 catalog for $99. This is the >greatest thing since "sliced bread" for trouble shooting and tracing = wiring >systems. > >Forrest (in Southern Oregon tracing out wires in an old Estey) > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Wiring and cables From: "Ron Natalie" <ron@sensor.com> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 14:29:14 -0400       John Durgan wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I want to order one of these 701K probe sets. Does anyone have the URL = to > the Jensen site, or a phone number I can call to order a set. > > http://www.jensentools.com   THey aren't cheap though. I got mine here:   http://shop.store.yahoo.com/phonetx/testing-tone-probe-kit.html  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Wiring and cables From: "Jon Calvo" <jcalvo@mail.state.tn.us> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 13:43:10 -0500   ** For Your Eyes Only ** ** High Priority **   Hey Guys I have a question I have a two offset chest manual that as = those=20 dime size magnets in the bottom of the mettle part of the magnet shell it = self , my question dose any one know where I can find those small I guess = there magnets , I need 5 or dose anyone know of how these things can be = revived   thanks john       >>> ron@sensor.com 10/19/00 01:29PM >>>     John Durgan wrote: >=20 > Hi Folks, >=20 > I want to order one of these 701K probe sets. Does anyone have the URL = to > the Jensen site, or a phone number I can call to order a set. >=20 > http://www.jensentools.com=20   THey aren't cheap though. I got mine here:   http://shop.store.yahoo.com/phonetx/testing-tone-probe-kit.html=20   DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own=20 Residence Pipe Organs. HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org=20 List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org=20 Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org=20