DIYAPASON-L Digest #170 - Thursday, October 26, 2000
 
Pipe cutups was Re: [Residence Organs]  combination action
  by "Eric Sagmuller" <ess4@psu.edu>
Re: Pipe cutups was Re: [Residence Organs] combination action
  by "s c bournias" <chrisbournias@hotmail.com>
Help; stiff 1" felt needed
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Help; stiff 1" felt needed
  by "Bernard C. Nordmann" <bcnordmann@cdmnet.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Help; stiff 1" felt needed
  by "Ron Natalie" <ron@sensor.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Help; stiff 1" felt needed
  by "John Durgan" <kimbalman@earthlink.net>
recovering keys
  by "John Durgan" <kimbalman@earthlink.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Help; stiff 1" felt needed
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Help; stiff 1" felt needed
  by "Ron Natalie" <ron@sensor.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  recovering keys
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Help; stiff 1" felt needed
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Help; stiff 1" felt needed
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Help; stiff 1" felt needed
  by "John Durgan" <kimbalman@earthlink.net>
Questions from a newbie.
  by "Mark Willey" <mwilley@markwilley.com>
 

(back) Subject: Pipe cutups was Re: [Residence Organs] combination action From: "Eric Sagmuller" <ess4@psu.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 08:41:04 -0400   Tim Bovard wrote:   > >Hi, Kelvin -- and a hearty CONGRATULATIONS on the further progress of = your >instrument!! > >HOWEVER, something you wrote above alarms me...<G> > >If you wish to "tame" your diapasons, you certainly would not want to cut >them *UP* more...if anything, just the the opposite (but lowering cutups = is >a major pain -- though it is possible if you are really good at soldering >pipes). >   The same thought ran through my mind the first time Kelvin suggested raising the cutups. I intentionally spent more money on my pipes to get low cutup, low windpressure pipes for my residence organ and I'm sure glad I did. I'm running 3" wind on them and that's plenty in my live, fair sized room. Also the low cutups make for a very beautiful, harmonically developed, not too loud sound. I just ran a rank of high cutup diapasons to the dump yesterday as in my opinion they are just not suitable for any residence or for that matter, small to moderate sized church. Some high cutup diapasons can be tamed down pretty low in volume, but then they sound more like flutes rather than diapasons. I also burned a bunch of wood Gedackt pipes with high cutups the other day. They sounded horrible compared to my chiffy, low cutup Gedackts.   I played a 97 Shantz that ran on 3 and 3 1/2" wind in a church that seated about 400. It sounded very nice and plenty loud enough.   Kelson, if you really want high cutup diapasons, I suggest that maybe you find some one to trade yours with, as they are much harder to find. There are plenty of high cutup pipes out there.   Just my opinions.   God Bless, Eric    
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe cutups was Re: [Residence Organs] combination action From: "s c bournias" <chrisbournias@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:22:34 EDT     I believe it is possible to lower cut-ups on wood pipes by means of metal inserts to the upper lips...steve bournias   >From: Eric Sagmuller <ess4@psu.edu> >Reply-To: "Residence Organ List" <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> >To: "Residence Organ List" <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> >Subject: Pipe cutups was Re: [Residence Organs] combination action >Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 08:41:04 -0400 > >Tim Bovard wrote: > >> >>Hi, Kelvin -- and a hearty CONGRATULATIONS on the further progress of = your >>instrument!! >> >>HOWEVER, something you wrote above alarms me...<G> >> >>If you wish to "tame" your diapasons, you certainly would not want to = cut >>them *UP* more...if anything, just the the opposite (but lowering cutups =   >>is >>a major pain -- though it is possible if you are really good at = soldering >>pipes). >> > >The same thought ran through my mind the first time Kelvin suggested >raising the cutups. I intentionally spent more money on my pipes to >get low cutup, low windpressure pipes for my residence organ and I'm >sure glad I did. I'm running 3" wind on them and that's plenty in my >live, fair sized room. Also the low cutups make for a very beautiful, >harmonically developed, not too loud sound. I just ran a rank of high >cutup diapasons to the dump yesterday as in my opinion they are just >not suitable for any residence or for that matter, small to moderate >sized church. Some high cutup diapasons can be tamed down pretty low >in volume, but then they sound more like flutes rather than >diapasons. I also burned a bunch of wood Gedackt pipes with high >cutups the other day. They sounded horrible compared to my chiffy, >low cutup Gedackts. > >I played a 97 Shantz that ran on 3 and 3 1/2" wind in a church that >seated about 400. It sounded very nice and plenty loud enough. > >Kelson, if you really want high cutup diapasons, I suggest that maybe >you find some one to trade yours with, as they are much harder to >find. There are plenty of high cutup pipes out there. > >Just my opinions. > >God Bless, >Eric > > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org >   _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.   Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.    
(back) Subject: Help; stiff 1" felt needed From: <KriderSM@aol.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:24:23 EDT   Greetings all, Does anyone know where I can purchase stiff 1" felt for rebuilding a Wicks =   pedalboard?   Thanks, Stan Krider  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Help; stiff 1" felt needed From: "Bernard C. Nordmann" <bcnordmann@cdmnet.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 09:35:16 -0500   At 10:24 AM 10/26/00 -0400, KriderSM@aol.com wrote: >Greetings all, >Does anyone know where I can purchase stiff 1" felt for rebuilding a = Wicks >pedalboard?   Try: http://www.schaffpiano.com . They're in Chicago.         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bernie Nordmann, St. Louis, MO -- Owner of a 3/13 Wurlitzer/Barton/Kimball/Dennison/whatever -- Registered Piano Technician, Piano Technicians Guild -- Full time computer consultant - Nordmann Consulting, Inc. -- Amateur radio operator, call sign KV0W -- Husband, father ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Help; stiff 1" felt needed From: "Ron Natalie" <ron@sensor.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:42:20 -0400       KriderSM@aol.com wrote: > > Greetings all, > Does anyone know where I can purchase stiff 1" felt for rebuilding a = Wicks > pedalboard? > OSI probably has it, but poke around in the weather stripping section of HomeDepot. They have both foam and felt in a variety of configurations.  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Help; stiff 1" felt needed From: "John Durgan" <kimbalman@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:03:19 -0500   Hi Again   Here is the name and address and phone   Southeastern Felt Company p.o. box 1368 Concord North Carolina   phone: 1-800-438-2252   They made special pipe stopper felt to exact specs. It was perfect. I = have used them for a number of felts of special thickness and density   John R. Durgan Mississippi -----Original Message----- From: KriderSM@aol.com <KriderSM@aol.com> To: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> Date: Thursday, October 26, 2000 9:24 AM Subject: [Residence Organs] Help; stiff 1" felt needed     >Greetings all, >Does anyone know where I can purchase stiff 1" felt for rebuilding a = Wicks >pedalboard? > >Thanks, >Stan Krider > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: recovering keys From: "John Durgan" <kimbalman@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:20:18 -0500   There has been a lot of discussion at several points in time about recovering keys. A lot of it was promulgated by me in my quest for = someone to do the job for me.   I decided to do it myself, and have just finished rebuilding the solo = manual on my 3/8 Kimball Theatre Organ. It turned out great.   I rebushed the keys front and back, replaced the braided wire on the shorting bars, cleaned all the contacts (Kimball used all silver), = Rewired the blocks, Ran a new common bus wire accross the back, Replaced all the felts, replaced the old pistons with new, and recovered the naturals. All this was done without dismounting any of the under key hardware (shorting blocks and leveling or touch depth threaded wires).   It was not nearly as difficult as I thought it would be, but was time consuming, but then all organ work is time consuming.   For those that are interested I will be documenting with photos the = process as I rebuild the Accompanyment manual. This one has 2nd touch. The = photos etc will be on my web site.   John Durgan Mississippi    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Help; stiff 1" felt needed From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:17:43 -0400   >Hi Again > >Here is the name and address and phone > >Southeastern Felt Company >p.o. box 1368 >Concord North Carolina > >phone: 1-800-438-2252   I can vouch for that recommendation. Very Helpful folks, and reasonable!   John V      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Help; stiff 1" felt needed From: "Ron Natalie" <ron@sensor.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:34:07 -0400       John Durgan wrote: > > Hi Again > > Here is the name and address and phone > > Southeastern Felt Company > p.o. box 1368 > Concord North Carolina > http://www.sefelt.com  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] recovering keys From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:23:39 -0400     >For those that are interested I will be documenting with photos the = process >as I rebuild the Accompanyment manual. This one has 2nd touch. The = photos >etc will be on my web site. > >John Durgan >Mississippi   John, by all means. We have 3 keyboards to go!   John V      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Help; stiff 1" felt needed From: "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:28:35 -0700   John Durgan wrote: > ... > Southeastern Felt Company > ... > They made special pipe stopper felt to exact specs.     Interesting; what specs. did you give them? Were they knowledgable of pipe organ standards?   Mac Hayes  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Help; stiff 1" felt needed From: "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:30:21 -0700   Ron Natalie wrote: > > KriderSM@aol.com wrote: > > > > Greetings all, > > Does anyone know where I can purchase stiff 1" felt for rebuilding a = Wicks > > pedalboard? > > > OSI probably has it, ...   OSI *DOES* have it, and quite reasonably priced, I thought.   Mac Hayes  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Help; stiff 1" felt needed From: "John Durgan" <kimbalman@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 15:35:05 -0500   For some of the critical stuff, I sent samples, I sent some old moth = eaten pieces and they were able to come up with new that was just right. Don't know how. The felt they made for my wood bass pipe stoppers was perfect.   John Mississippi -----Original Message----- From: Mac Hayes <mach37@ptw.com> To: Residence Organ List <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> Date: Thursday, October 26, 2000 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Help; stiff 1" felt needed     >John Durgan wrote: >> ... >> Southeastern Felt Company >> ... >> They made special pipe stopper felt to exact specs. > > >Interesting; what specs. did you give them? Were they knowledgable of >pipe organ standards? > >Mac Hayes > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Questions from a newbie. From: "Mark Willey" <mwilley@markwilley.com> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:08:36 -0400   Hello all,   I have just joined this list. I definitely need to go back through the archives to catch up to where you all are, but let me tell you why I joined.   I am a professional organist working as the organist/director of music at a church in Maryland. At my church I am blessed (and cursed) to have a great four manual Moller pipe organ. Lately, the Moller "tracker" touch keyboards have been causing some strain in my hands and so I am turning to other venues for practice.   My dream has been to build, or otherwise acquire, a small two manual and pedals practice organ. I would prefer to have something with a light mechanical action. Fine woodworking and cabinetmaking is my hobby and so I think I have many of the skills and tools to pull this off. I need good plans and some experienced advice however and those are two of the reasons that I joined this list.   Can any of you steer me in good directions to get started. I have only once seen and played the kind of organ that I am looking to build/buy. It was in my teacher's house and it was made by Meyer (a German company). Are there plans out there for what I'm looking for? Well, I've written enough. Time to cast my bread on the water and wait for the blessings of wisdom.   Mark