DIYAPASON-L Digest #172 - Saturday, October 28, 2000
 
Re: In some areas that too is Illegal ! ! !
  by <TheGluePot@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Uses for old pipes
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: In some areas that too is Illegal ! ! !
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: In some areas that too is Illegal ! !!
  by "Ron Natalie" <ron@sensor.com>
Pipe cutups
  by <KriderSM@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Pipe cutups was Re: [Residence Organs] combina
  by "s c bournias" <chrisbournias@hotmail.com>
Refinishing wood pipes
  by "Daniel W Hopkins" <danielwh@homefreeweb.com>
Stuff?
  by "Jane and Dave Whitmore" <JDWhitmore@worldnet.att.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Refinishing wood pipes
  by "Jon" <sparky@chesco.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Refinishing wood pipes
  by "Jon" <sparky@chesco.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: In some areas that too is Illegal ! ! ! From: <TheGluePot@aol.com> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:54:32 EDT   In a message dated 10/27/00 3:19:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, = ron@sensor.com writes:   << I was watching an AIO video tape and Nelson Barden just flattens them = out and uses them for soldering up wind lines. >>   When the Kautz Ironstone Winery was installing their organ, the inspector took one look at the lead solder that was to be used for windline and = stopped the project until the new spiral non-soldered line was brought in. Big = extra bucks and time....   Al Sefl  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Uses for old pipes From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 02:21:03 -0500   At 10/27/00 10:34 PM, you wrote: >Hmmm. A friend has screwed Bourdons to the wall horizontally >to use as shelving.   Many odd bits of old organs are adaptable to "furniture" applications. I have made myself several bookcase units from discarded wooden pipes (as upright "legs", with shelves cleated/screwed between them). Old = walkboards make good shelves here or on brackets by themselves.   I have been entertaining the idea of making a bartop out of some neat old toeboards laying around...mebbe with a clear plexiglas (or something) = layer to provide a smooth surface and keep spills out of the inside of it all. = I missed an opportunity to get an old Wangerin (I think) relay mechanism = that would have made a great bar -- a long narrow wooden case with a glass top covering the mechanisms inside -- it would have been PERFECT! Alas, somebody else thought of the idea before I did...   Speaking of the bar...   Cheers!   Tim      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: In some areas that too is Illegal ! ! ! From: "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 04:23:03 -0700   TheGluePot@aol.com wrote: > ... the inspector took one look at the lead solder that was > to be used for windline and stopped the project until the new > spiral non-soldered line was brought in. ...     I found this while browsing the science web sites yesterday:   "ST. PAUL, MN - Lead exposure on the job can cause progressive declines in memory and learning abilities nearly two decades later, according to a study in the October 24 issue of Neurology, the scientific journal of the American Academy of Neurology."   The rest of the article is at this URL: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/10/001023204446.htm   It seems to contradict the experience, or at least, the opinion, of some pipe builders and voicers who have commented on various email Lists.   Mac Hayes  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: In some areas that too is Illegal ! !! From: "Ron Natalie" <ron@sensor.com> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:06:11 -0700       Mac Hayes wrote: > > It seems to contradict the experience, or at least, the opinion, of some > pipe builders and voicers who have commented on various email Lists. > I think the matter is what "lead exposure" is. Handling lead pipes or solder probably isn't the same as injesting lead laden dust for example. I guess if you wanted to be sure you would be tested regularly   I did a small stint in a neon studio. Everybody there gets checked for mercury regularly (mercury is added to the tubes as their gassed).  
(back) Subject: Pipe cutups From: <KriderSM@aol.com> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:45:57 EDT   Hi Eric, and list,   Other uses exist for old and "useless" pipes.   The lead ones might be returned to such places as Schopps for remelting = into new pipes. The pipe organ company I work for sends a lot of their old and destroyed lead pipes to such places.   The wooden ones might be offered to local craft people. I know of at least =   three uses for useless wooden pipes: an upright storage for dowell rods, stiff wire, tools, etc. Muffler covers are used for troughs to hold drill bits, screw drivers, to use a indirect lighting sources, etc. I know of a gal who uses small wooden pipes as a canvas on which to paint scenes and portraits. She then sells them.   Don't, PLEASE DON'T destroy them without checking the local craft people first.   Musically, Stan Krider       In a message dated 10/28/2000 12:31:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Eric Sagmuller writes: Lou wrote: >I would recommend you sell the pipework you can't use >instead of destroying it. If you put an ad on the >http://www.theatreorgans.com/ website you can usually >sell pipework making someone happy, making you some $, >and preserving pipework. > I would do this with most pipework I don't need but the diapasons I took to the dump were of a very high lead content and many of them were very dented (I would call mashed) and the 8' portion of the pipes were stopped pipes (not desirable at all). The wood pipes were very dry and many of them had the wood splitting. Also I have seen a glut of this type of pipework for sale on the for sale lists that doesn't seem to sell as there is a very small market for it. If this were low pressure, low cutup pipework it would have been worth repairing and marketing. Thanks for the advice, Eric >>  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Pipe cutups was Re: [Residence Organs] combination action From: "s c bournias" <chrisbournias@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:38:12 EDT   <html><DIV> <P><BR><BR></P>Point well taken. Also for the adventurous they have been = made into rohr flutes, spill flutes, koppel flutes, and = nachthorns....steve bournias </DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Henry Paff <PAFFH@YAHOO.COM> <DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: "Residence Organ List" <DIYAPASON-L@PIPECHAT.ORG> <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: Residence Organ List <DIYAPASON-L@PIPECHAT.ORG> <DIV></DIV>&gt;CC: yc9044@exmail.usma.army.mil, slayden@uwm.edu, = brkpinball@aol.com, victorgan@aol.com <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Pipe cutups was Re: = [Residence Organs] combination action <DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 17:39:40 -0700 (PDT) <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;When you do this you may need to cut the mouth up <DIV></DIV>&gt;higher to keep it from becoming a quintadena. Such <DIV></DIV>&gt;pipes do make good bourdons. <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;Lou Paff <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;--- s c bournias <CHRISBOURNIAS@HOTMAIL.COM>wrote: <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt; <HR> <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt; <P><BR><BR></P>Generous scaling on diapasons need not <DIV></DIV>&gt;be a problem if these pipes are capped into a 16' stop <DIV></DIV>&gt;like a bourdon or employed "as is" in the pedal as a <DIV></DIV>&gt;unit 8-4-2 chorus....steve bournias <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>&gt;&lt; <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;__________________________________________________ <DIV></DIV>&gt;Do You Yahoo!? <DIV></DIV>&gt;Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. <DIV></DIV>&gt;http://im.yahoo.com/ <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of = their own <DIV></DIV>&gt;Residence Pipe Organs. <DIV></DIV>&gt;HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>&gt;List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>&gt;Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV><p><hr>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at <a = href=3D"http://www.hotmail.com">http://www.hotmail.com</a>.<p>Share = information about yourself, create your own public profile at <a = href=3D"http://profiles.msn.com">http://profiles.msn.com = </a>.<br></p></html>  
(back) Subject: Refinishing wood pipes From: "Daniel W Hopkins" <danielwh@homefreeweb.com> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 17:46:41 -0300   I am about to refinish some of my wood Pipes.I bought shellac What do I do to refinish these pipes, ANd what do I do when I get near the mouths.I dont want to start till I get some advice Thank you Daniel WH "2000 E. Power Biggs Fellow Recipient"    
(back) Subject: Stuff? From: "Jane and Dave Whitmore" <JDWhitmore@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 18:37:59 -0400   Hi John,   I saw your post about acquiring the inventory of the defunct builder. Do you perhaps have a list of the stuff? I've been looking for some 601 magnets to make a small string offset chest and some small flanges and tubing to mount an 8' diapason horizontally.   Just curious,   Dave, still in Vermont    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Refinishing wood pipes From: "Jon" <sparky@chesco.com> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 22:58:33 -0400   Daniel:   I would suggest visiting this site for some guidance; while i have not checked its contents thoroughly, what i did see was accurate and will give you the right idea.   Its hard to screw it up - don't let it drip though . .   jon buchanan Technology Education Department Twin Valley High School           "I think its interesting, that those who are best in a position to understand reality - namely the particle physicists, the astrophysicists, and researchers into states of consciousness and transpersonal psychology = - that they all look toward music. Music, after all, is the art of the vibration: the bottom line of existence as we understand it, whether it's electromagnetism itself or the relationship between light seen as a wave mechanism or light seen as a particle. Somehow it points to the = vibration, and to understanding life in terms of cycles. Whether it's birth and death, or the seasons, or the planets, or the intake and outtake of = breath, or the heartbeat - again we're dealing with cycles, waves, and vibrations.   "And all of this is so close to music and musical systems that we have to re-examine Pythagoras and Newton and others who saw music as something = more than just a manifestation that man brought forth. They see it more than man, in his highest moments, tapped into something.   -Lorin Hollander      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Refinishing wood pipes From: "Jon" <sparky@chesco.com> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 23:00:22 -0400   The address may come in handy:   http://www.xs4all.nl/~josvanr/finishes/shellac.html