DIYAPASON-L Digest #368 - Wednesday, August 15, 2001
 
Re: [Residence Organs]  Blower relay
  by "The Schneider Family" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Blower relay
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Blower relay
  by <Mpmollerorgan@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Blower relay
  by <Pipewheezr@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Blower relay
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Blower relay
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Blower relay
  by <Mpmollerorgan@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Blower relay From: "The Schneider Family" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 02:59:03 -0500   "Robert W. Taylor" wrote: > Hi Lis! > I am designing s new control for my blower. I need a source for a low > voltage relay control for a 2 HP 220v blower. Any suggestions? Bob,   W.W. Grainger, Inc. which has branches nationwide (but does not generally sell to the public, so you need to be connected with some company in order to purchase from them) ought to have virtually anything you could need for the application.   Otherwise, most electrical supply houses can help you out.   As an aside: don't forget that you need to include "Heater Elements" (Running Overcurrent Protection) in your blower wiring, so that if something goes drastically wrong with your blower, (like someone forgot to oil it and it locks-up!) the building doesn't burn down because the motor became a "Crispy Critter", but had long ago shut off because the Heater Elements would have tripped out. These sense when the blower is drawing too much current (like when the rotor is locked-up!) and then shut the circuit off.   The best brand of Magnetic Starter for the application, BTW, is Allen-Bradley. Unfortunately, W.W.G. doesn't sell that, but the better electrical supply houses do.   Faithfully,   Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Pipe Organ Builders 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX mailto:arpschneider@starband.net HOME EMAIL mailto:arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com WEB PAGE URL  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Blower relay From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 08:42:52 -0700   >"Robert W. Taylor" wrote: > >> Hi Lis! > >> I am designing s new control for my blower. I need a source for a low > > voltage relay control for a 2 HP 220v blower. Any suggestions? >off. > >The best brand of Magnetic Starter for the application, BTW, is >Allen-Bradley. Unfortunately, W.W.G. doesn't sell that, but the better >electrical supply houses do. >organs.com WEB PAGE URL   Let me know the exact ratings of the motor: HP, #Phases, amps etc. I may be able to help. I have access to surplus motor starters   John V --  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Blower relay From: <Mpmollerorgan@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:32:58 EDT     In a message dated 8/15/01 2:55:50 AM, arpschneider@starband.net writes:   > >W.W. Grainger, Inc. which has branches nationwide (but does not >generally sell to the public, so you need to be connected with some >company in order to purchase from them) ought to have virtually anything >you could need for the application. > >Otherwise, most electrical supply houses can help you out.     Actually... there IS a way around that ;)   Just make up a business name and use it when you set up an account on = their web site. I did that and have an account with them. I have a co-worker who =   just uses "<name> technologies" and has things he orders shipped to him at work = where we have a loading dock. I just ordered 80' of 100 pair and 75' of 50 pair cable from Clifton of Vermont on a 30 day business billing credit just by stating my organ = project is part of a non-profit company (which it is) and sent them a scan of my = Iowa State incorporation certificate.   I incorporated as a non-profit education and preservation entity a year = ago for $20 fee to the state, the certificate comes in handy when you want to open accounts with firms that sell wholesale or just to businesses. I'll be ordering a new central furnace from Grainger in October.   Randall http://members.aol.com/mpmollerorgan/  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Blower relay From: <Pipewheezr@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:01:53 EDT     --part1_d3.1932d721.28abe8e1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hello organ-holics. Robert I have a GE CR306J1**AAYA contacter, it ran the old 2 HP Meinger? blower. If it will work for you can have it for shipping costs. I bought it new 5 or 6 years ago, but the blower was not big enough for = the job. I sold the blower without the contacter. Let me know what you think, it is just collecting dust in my office in the =   shop. Dennis   --part1_d3.1932d721.28abe8e1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hello organ-holics. <BR>Robert I have a GE CR306J1**AAYA contacter, it ran the old 2 HP = Meinger? <BR>blower. If it will work for you can have it for shipping costs. <BR>I bought it new 5 or 6 years ago, but the blower was not big enough = for the <BR>job. I sold the blower without the contacter. <BR>Let me know what you think, it is just collecting dust in my office in = the <BR>shop. <BR> <BR>Dennis </FONT></HTML>   --part1_d3.1932d721.28abe8e1_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Blower relay From: "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:42:08 -0700   While I have your attention:   How do you oil this type of motor? (GE 3/4 HP single phase)   I would expect to apply oil to the composition material surrounding the motor shaft, except it appears the composition bearing surround was painted over at time of manufacture. Should I scrape or sand off the paint on the bearing surround? Or, should I loosen the bearing clamp in order to oil it; or just put a few drops on the end of the shaft and let it wick into the bearing?   The instructions, on a separate handwritten sticker supplied by the blower manufacturer (not GE) says: "Oil 30 drops SAE 10/20 Jan & Jul," but without an oiling cup/ reservoir it looks like 30 drops would take quite a while to soak in from the outside, even if it hadn't been painted.   Mac Hayes  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Blower relay From: "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:03:27 -0700   Mac Hayes wrote: > > While I have your attention: ...     List, my apologies - disregard. Somehow the List address got on the To:   Mac  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Blower relay From: <Mpmollerorgan@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:01:05 EDT     In a message dated 8/15/01 8:48:15 PM, mach37@ptw.com writes:   >While I have your attention: > >How do you oil this type of motor? (GE 3/4 HP single phase) > >I would expect to apply oil to the composition material surrounding the >motor shaft, except it appears the composition bearing surround was >painted over at time of manufacture. Should I scrape or sand off the >paint on the bearing surround?   The better motors like Baldor have a nice handy little oil cap or grease fitting, the cheaper "disposable" motors don't have anything, the bearings =   are factory sealed "For the life of the motor" bwhahahah!!! The latter when something needs repair it's cheaper just to replace the = motor and 3/4 HP motors are pretty common. With my blower being from 1927 and it's original 1100 RPM 2 HP Century impulsion start motor there's no way one is going to find a new plug-in replacement off the shelf. The motor alone which is cast-iron with heavy copper commutators weighs 190 pounds. It has oil reservoir and a grease cup. The Laukuff blowers I think only need oil once every ten years.   > Should I scrape or sand off the >paint on the bearing surround? Or, should I loosen the bearing clamp in >order to oil it; or just put a few drops on the end of the shaft and let >it wick into the bearing?   Hard to visualize this "bearing clamp" but if the motor hasn't been oiled = or anything in who knows how long, I personally would be inclined to open it = up, blow out any accumulated crud and dust, clean out any old oil and put in = new. Then clean the outside and paint it :)         Randall http://members.aol.com/mpmollerorgan/