DIYAPASON-L Digest #370 - Friday, August 17, 2001
 
Re: [Residence Organs]  Console wiring
  by "The Schneider Family" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Console wiring
  by <Mpmollerorgan@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Console wiring, color code
  by "4everaptor" <JABowers@execpc.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Console wiring, color code
  by <Mpmollerorgan@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Console wiring, color code
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Console wiring From: "The Schneider Family" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 23:42:40 -0500   Mpmollerorgan@aol.com wrote: > I guess as they say, "The fun begins" (R) I now have my 75' 100 pair = cable <snip> I also have the console terminal board set to the point where I > have all 73 sw and all 73 gt wires cable tied and harnessed, and pushed > through their respective holes, and ready to strip ends and solder to = the > brass pins.   > I also earlier in the year put in new wires from the 8 thumb piston = magnets, > and from all of the stop tabs down to the bottom of the console but = leaving > the ends of all the wires just loose.   > Looks like I can start connecting those this week end, and I believe the = 8 > thumb pistons simply wire up one to each of the 8 magnets. > I also had previously wired the two manuals with all new wiring,   <snip>   someday I'll get around to figuring that out. > "Someday" is here, today :)   Randy,   Do yourself (and anyone else who may have to help you out at some future point!) a HUGE favor and have Clifford of Vermont, from whom you bought the cables, FAX the shop a copy of the Telephone Color Code standard, which sets out the proper numerical sequence for wiring the cables to you before you get started. Better to change it now, if you didn't follow the standard than to wish you had later. Makes troubleshooting MUCH easier in the future, believe me!   <snip> > The confusing thing I suppose looking at hundreds of multi-colored = wires > like so many strands of spaghetti,   That's exactly why you need to follow that color code. Once you "memorize" it, you'll be surprised just how fast the wiring goes, if you focus on one wire at a time. In no time (yeah, right!) you'll be all done!   <Very big Snip>   > Sure wish I had Moller blueprints of the organ or orginal wiring diagram = of > the console.   Most of this was "second nature" to them, Randy. If you think out how these are used, it won't take you long to map-out a strategy. Again: follow that color code!!!   Happy wiring! Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Pipe Organ Builders 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX mailto:arpschneider@starband.net HOME EMAIL mailto:arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com WEB PAGE URL  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Console wiring From: <Mpmollerorgan@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 01:29:02 EDT       In a message dated 8/16/01 11:39:06 PM, arpschneider@starband.net writes:   >Do yourself (and anyone else who may have to help you out at some future >point!) a HUGE favor and have Clifford of Vermont, from whom you bought >the cables, FAX the shop a copy of the Telephone Color Code standard, >which sets out the proper numerical sequence for wiring the cables to >you before you get started.   I already have the color code chart off a telephone wiring web site :)   Here is a sample of how I am using it, just the first octave is shown;   Binder strips; White, Blue   WHITE/BLUE C1 BLUE/WHITE C#2 WHITE/ORANGE D3 ORANGE/WHITE D#4 WHITE/GREEN E5 GREEN/WHITE F6 WHITE/BROWN F#7 BROWN/WHITE G8 WHITE/SLATE G#9 SLATE/WHITE A10 RED/BLUE A#11 BLUE/RED B12 RED/ORANGE C13   Etc.     Then when that 25 pair bundle ends at note 50, the next 25 pair bundle is;   Binder strips: White, Orange   WHITE/BLUE D51 BLUE/WHITE D#52 WHITE/ORANGE E53 ORANGE/WHITE F54 WHITE/GREEN F#55 GREEN/WHITE G56 WHITE/BROWN G#57 BROWN/WHITE A58 WHITE/SLATE A#59 SLATE/WHITE B60 RED/BLUE C61   Etc   I used the first two bundles (50 pairs) for the Sw and the second two for = the Gt, leaving 27 spare/extra wires for each manual division.       >> The confusing thing I suppose looking at hundreds of multi-colored = wires >> like so many strands of spaghetti, > >That's exactly why you need to follow that color code. Once you >"memorize" it, you'll be surprised just how fast the wiring goes, if you >focus on one wire at a time. In no time (yeah, right!) you'll be all >done!   I am following the new color code, but remember that is of no use to = decipher the old, the console originally had all 1929 cloth wires and all the were SAME color green and had been uncerimoneously chopped and totally useless = to me to even try sorting out stubs that were left. Unfortunately 4 years ago when I rewired the manuals internally, I had no color code nor a clue that anything coded for *telephone* connections = would even be remotely applicable to pipe organ manuals, so the various pairs of =   colors went in in random order, other than the individual pairs going to adjacent terminals. So while the rest of the organ from the console = terminal board will have C1 and C#2 having WHITE/BLUE for all the C1's and BLUE/WHITE for all the C#2's etc., the C1 and C#2 on the manuals are = whatever color came to hand 4 years ago, so that will take some time to sort. I = used 12 pair cable as I recall, so there are several individual cables and = those are marked underside of the manuals, with cable 1 wired to C1-B24, cable 2 =   C25 to 48 etc., so that won't be too bad.   I sure as heck am not going to take all that out and redo it, it's in = there for life, but once wired to the console terminal board the rest will be consistant.     Randall http://members.aol.com/mpmollerorgan/  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Console wiring, color code From: "4everaptor" <JABowers@execpc.com> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 00:05:36 -0500   Hi List, I believe this is all correct. It's what I've been using.   John     CABLE WIRING ORDER   1 Wht-Blu 26 Grn-Blk 2 Blu-Wht 27 Blk-Brn 3 Wht-Orn 28 Brn-Blk 4 Orn-Wht 29 Blk-Sla 5 Wht-Grn 30 Sla-Blk 6 Grn-Wht 31 Yel-Blu 7 Wht-Brn 32 Blu-Yel 8 Brn-Wht 33 Yel-Orn 9 Wht-Sla 34 Orn-Yel 10 Sla-Wht 35 Yel-Grn 11 Red-Blu 36 Grn-Yel 12 Blu-Red 37 Yel-Brn 13 Red-Orn 38 Brn-Yel 14 Orn-Red 39 Yel-Sla 15 Red-Grn 40 Sla-Yel 16 Grn-Red 41 Vio-Blu 17 Red-Brn 42 Blu-Vio 18 Brn-Red 43 Vio-Orn 19 Red-Sla 44 Orn-Vio 20 Sla-Red 45 Vio-Grn 21 Blk-Blu 46 Grn-Vio 22 Blu-Blk 47 Vio-Brn 23 Blk-Orn 48 Brn-Vio 24 Orn-Blk 49 Vio-Sla 25 Blk-Grn 50 Sla-Vio     Blu Blue Orn Orange Grn Green Brn Brown Sla Slate [Gray] Wht White Yel Yellow Blk Black Vio Violet       The Schneider Family wrote: > > > Do yourself [snip] a HUGE favor [SNIP, - Use the telco color code] > Better to change it now, if you didn't follow the standard > than to wish you had later. Makes troubleshooting > MUCH easier in the future, believe me! > Snip > Again: > follow that color code!!! > > Happy wiring! > > Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Console wiring, color code From: <Mpmollerorgan@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:16:42 EDT   Here is the chart I generated the other day;   ORGAN COLOR CODES, CONSOLE TO RELAYS, GT and SW; 100 Pair cable.   SWELL; Pair 1-25 Binder: White/Blue Pair 26-50 Binder: White/Orange   GREAT; Pair 51-75 Binder: White/Green Pair 76-100 Binder: White/Brown   PEDAL, and Stops; 50 pair cable. Pair 1-25 Binder: White/Blue Pair 26-50 Binder: White/Orange   CHIMES, 12 Pair cable   WHITE/BLUE C1 D51 BLUE/WHITE C#2 D#52 WHITE/ORANGE D3 E53 ORANGE/WHITE D#4 F54 WHITE/GREEN E5 F#55 GREEN/WHITE F6 G56 WHITE/BROWN F#7 G#57 BROWN/WHITE G8 A58 WHITE/SLATE G#9 A#59 SLATE/WHITE A10 B60 RED/BLUE A#11 C61 BLUE/RED B12 C#62 RED/ORANGE C13 D63   ORANGE/RED C#14 D#64 RED/GREEN D15 E65 GREEN/RED D#16 F66 RED/BROWN E17 F#67 BROWN/RED F18 G68 RED/SLATE F#19 G#69 SLATE/RED G20 A70 BLACK/BLUE G#21 A#71 BLUE/BLACK A22 B72 BLACK/ORANGE A#23 C73 ORANGE/BLACK B24 BLACK/GREEN C25   GREEN/BLACK C#26 BLACK/BROWN D27 BROWN/BLACK D#28 BLACK/SLATE E29 SLATE/BLACK F30 YELLOW/BLUE F#31 BLUE/YELLOW G32 YELLOW/ORANGE G#33 ORANGE/YELLOW A34 YELLOW/GREEN A#35 GREEN/YELLOW B36 YELLOW/BROWN C37   BROWN/YELLOW C#38 YELLOW/SLATE D39 SLATE/YELLOW D#40 VIOLET/BLUE E41 BLUE/VIOLET F42 VIOLET/ORANGE F#43 ORANGE/VIOLET G44 VIOLET/GREEN G#45 GREEN/VIOLET A46 VIOLET/BROWN A#47 BROWN/VIOLET B48 VIOLET/SLATE C49   SLATE/VIOLET C#50  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Console wiring, color code From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:23:29 -0500   There is both an Excel spreadsheet and an Adobe PDF copy on this list's web site that has the color code laid out for easy reference. You can also print out copies and make notations on those copies if it makes things easier. http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org and click on the "Resources" link.   David