DIYAPASON-L Digest #251 - Thursday, February 1, 2001
 
Re: [Residence Organs]  pipe scales
  by <Pipewheezr@aol.com>
Seek Blower info
  by "Robert W. Taylor" <rtaylor@sockets.net>
RE: [Residence Organs] Re: [Residence Organs] RE: [Residence Org ans] pip
  by "Bart Kleineweber" <prinzipal8@hotmail.com>
RE:
  by "STEVE PITTS" <steve.pitts@adtran.com>
[Residence Organs]  RE:
  by "Eric Sagmuller" <ess4@psu.edu>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Seek Blower info
  by "Blaine Ricketts" <blaineri@home.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Seek Blower info
  by "Hugh Knapton" <knapton@superaje.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Seek Blower info
  by "Kelvin Smith" <KelvinSmith@untraveledroad.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Seek Blower info
  by "Hugh Knapton" <knapton@superaje.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Seek Blower info
  by "Jimmy" <jrbaird@erols.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Seek Blower info
  by "Jimmy" <jrbaird@erols.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  RE:
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] pipe scales From: <Pipewheezr@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:35:16 EST     --part1_82.64d7666.27aadc34_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hello all organ-hollic's! I ounce saw an article on a pipe builder who = used aluminum in stead of the usual metals. I have a 12 Gemshorn bases that are = a little in the sun some times, and they are looking like bananas. One or = two were that way when I got them. Any body know who it was? There is picture of the pipes that comes up first on the web page, there = is a little dog bowing in front,Faunybear Leabawits. Thanks Dennis   --part1_82.64d7666.27aadc34_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hello all = organ-hollic's! I ounce saw an article on a pipe builder who used <BR>aluminum in stead of the usual metals. I have a 12 Gemshorn bases that = are a <BR>little in the sun some times, and they are looking like bananas. One = or two <BR>were that way when I got them. Any body know who it was? <BR>There is picture of the pipes that comes up first on the web page, = there is a <BR>little dog bowing in front,Faunybear Leabawits. <BR>Thanks <BR>Dennis</FONT></HTML>   --part1_82.64d7666.27aadc34_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Seek Blower info From: "Robert W. Taylor" <rtaylor@sockets.net> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:46:49 -0600   The blower that I own is not original to my organ and may be too small. = It is a British Organ Blower from Derby. Does anyone know how to contact = this firm to varify the output? It is 2 HP at 1720 rpm.   Bob Taylor      
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] Re: [Residence Organs] RE: [Residence Org ans] pipe scales From: "Bart Kleineweber" <prinzipal8@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 09:57:48 -0600   OK, now I know what you are asking. If you are missing a note in the rank =   you ask for a replacement by note #. The first note in the rank is 1 and the last note is 61. Count up from the bottom pipe and that will be the note. I believe D# above C25 would be number 28. It would not be in the 1/2 foot octave if it is above the 1' C pipe, it would be in the 1 foot octave.       >Thanks for the info....I am trying to understand how to properly describe >individual notes within various octaves of a rank of pipes.As I am >searching >for replacement pipes , I want to make sure I describe the ones I am >missing >correctly.IOW, if I am missing the D# in the octave above the 1 ft octave =   >of >a 4 ft rank, that would be D# of the 1/2 octave....(?) since the ocatves = of >a 4 ft rank are 4ft, 2 ft, 1 ft and 1/2 ft...is this correct? or am I way >off base? > >     Bart Kleineweber Chicago, IL http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org/webpages/kleineweber/ prinzipal8@hotmail.com   _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com    
(back) Subject: RE: From: "STEVE PITTS" <steve.pitts@adtran.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:07:43 -0600   This is starting to make sense now.Thanks a lot.I want to make sure I specify missing pipes correctly.I re-read one of your past e-mails = offering advice about my project.I am definitely going to save my 4 EP main chests...they are old , but the magnets appear to work.I also have found a source for leather (Columbia organ) and glue.I really dont mind re-leathering every note myself.It does make sense that I could use these for expansion.   Question: is it pretty easy to learn to re-leather those book-type = pouches? is it a really tricky process to master? I have heard that you have to be extremely carefull to get them exactly taut and so on...I do have another old offset chest I could practice on....   > -----Original Message----- > From: Bart Kleineweber [SMTP:prinzipal8@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 9:58 AM > To: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Subject: [Residence Organs] RE: [Residence Organs] Re: [Residence > Organs] RE: [Residence Org ans] pipe scales > > OK, now I know what you are asking. If you are missing a note in the = rank > > you ask for a replacement by note #. The first note in the rank is 1 = and > the last note is 61. Count up from the bottom pipe and that will be the =   > note. I believe D# above C25 would be number 28. It would not be in = the > 1/2 foot octave if it is above the 1' C pipe, it would be in the 1 foot > octave. > > > > >Thanks for the info....I am trying to understand how to properly = describe > >individual notes within various octaves of a rank of pipes.As I am > >searching > >for replacement pipes , I want to make sure I describe the ones I am > >missing > >correctly.IOW, if I am missing the D# in the octave above the 1 ft = octave > > >of > >a 4 ft rank, that would be D# of the 1/2 octave....(?) since the = ocatves > of > >a 4 ft rank are 4ft, 2 ft, 1 ft and 1/2 ft...is this correct? or am I = way > >off base? > > > > > > > Bart Kleineweber > Chicago, IL > http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org/webpages/kleineweber/ > prinzipal8@hotmail.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > Residence Pipe Organs. > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: [Residence Organs] RE: From: "Eric Sagmuller" <ess4@psu.edu> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:28:05 -0500   At 10:07 AM -0600 2/1/01, STEVE PITTS wrote: >I also have found a >source for leather (Columbia organ) and glue.I really dont mind >re-leathering every note myself.It does make sense that I could use these >for expansion.   Yes I have bought leather from them and they are very nice people to work with. They also have people that do releathering and seem willing to answer questions about releathering.   > >Question: is it pretty easy to learn to re-leather those book-type = pouches? >is it a really tricky process to master? I have heard that you have to be >extremely carefull to get them exactly taut and so on...I do have another >old offset chest I could practice on....   My Bourdon pipes also use these pouches that need releathered so I could also benefit from advice on releathering these. Anyone out there done these before? I think the main concern I had about releathering these had to do with the thickness of leather. There appear to be about 5 different thicknesses used, and as one has to buy a whole skin for each size, this gets expensive. I did ask Columbia about this awhile back, and I believe the guy there told me I could use just two different thicknesses, but I don't remember the details now as other things got in the way.   Eric Sagmuller    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Seek Blower info From: "Blaine Ricketts" <blaineri@home.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 08:34:45 -0800   If your blower has the capacity to keep the reservoirs up when playing = full organ, it's not too small. If they go flat along with the pitch then look for a = larger blower.   Blaine Ricketts   "Robert W. Taylor" wrote: > > The blower that I own is not original to my organ and may be too small. = It > is a British Organ Blower from Derby. Does anyone know how to contact = this > firm to varify the output? It is 2 HP at 1720 rpm. > > Bob Taylor > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > Residence Pipe Organs. > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Seek Blower info From: "Hugh Knapton" <knapton@superaje.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:42:41 -0500   Bob   BOBCO are now B.O.B. Stevenson Ltd   Their sales office email sales@bobstevenson.co.uk   They have a web site:   http://www.bobstevenson.co.uk/   I think that you will find that 2 h.p. models for the American market were only made to operate on 220 volts, but I may be mistaken!   It should be providing a static pressure of 8" and should be giving:   1200 cfm at 5", 1000 at 6", or 900 cfm at 7"   Make sure that the blower is on the correct voltage (It should say somewhere!) and make sure that it is wired to rotate in the right direction. (I've seen this mistake more often than one would think possible).   Hugh   >The blower that I own is not original to my organ and may be too small. = It >is a British Organ Blower from Derby. Does anyone know how to contact = this >firm to varify the output? It is 2 HP at 1720 rpm. > >Bob Taylor > > > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Seek Blower info From: "Kelvin Smith" <KelvinSmith@untraveledroad.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:06:26 -0700   2 hp is quite a bit of blower. My old blower was 2 hp and I was blowing 28 ranks at 5" pressure.   Kelvin Smith   >The blower that I own is not original to my organ and may be too small. = It >is a British Organ Blower from Derby. Does anyone know how to contact = this >firm to varify the output? It is 2 HP at 1720 rpm. > >Bob Taylor > > > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Seek Blower info From: "Hugh Knapton" <knapton@superaje.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 16:35:50 -0500   Bob   >Kelvin wrote: >>2 hp is quite a bit of blower. My old blower was 2 hp and I was blowing = 28 >>ranks at 5" pressure. >> >>Kelvin Smith >>   He is right! That is a lot of blower. If you are unsure of what size you should be using, I would be glad to work it out for you... but to do so, I will need your complete specification, and the wind pressures involved.   Hugh  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Seek Blower info From: "Jimmy" <jrbaird@erols.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 21:01:47 -0500   Robert W. Taylor wrote: > > The blower that I own is not original to my organ and may be too small. = It > is a British Organ Blower from Derby.   If it's an BOBCO blower (made in England), I might have some old charts for them. OSI used to carry them, and I've installed several of them in churches (years ago). I understand that they are still in business.   Jimmy  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Seek Blower info From: "Jimmy" <jrbaird@erols.com> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 21:07:50 -0500   My spec. sheet (from 1982) shows a 2 HP, 1700 RPM model as running on 240 volts with 8" static pressure. CFM at blower at 5" is 1200, at 6" is 1000, and at 7" is given as 900 CFM.   From an old Durst (OSI) spec. sheet.   Jimmy Baird  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] RE: From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:08:23 -0500   Leathering book pneumatics:   I've done the primaries and secondaries on my WurliTzer and have also done many player pianos. Type leather: Tan Pouch - the thinest possible, as speed is important. Measure the old pneumatics first to get full open span, and cut your = new leather into measured width-strips and add on enough length for complete hinge wrap-around. Hinge the appropriate pneumatic ends with twill tape or duck cloth from WallyWorld. Carefully run a bead of PVC-E glue or hide glue along one adge of the pneumatic and carefully lay it on the leather strip making sure to get the full span. MAKE SURE the leather is flat and smooth with no wrinkles. Glue the front and other side and wrap leather around, = smoothening out wrinkles. Pull the leather just a little taut -not too much. Set each releathered pneumatic aside and go on to the next. Trim excess leather = with shears.   That's it in a nutshell, and with practice, the job can be done rather quickly. Have plenty of coffee brewing on the stove and turn on your favourite soap operas or talk shows to help while-away the time as you releather.   Rick