DIYAPASON-L Digest #265 - Thursday, February 22, 2001
 
Re: [Residence Organs]  16' Bourdon pipes available
  by "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net>
Re: [Residence Organs] 16' Bourdon pipes available
  by "steve c bournias" <chrisbournias@hotmail.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  16' Bourdon pipes available
  by <Pipewheezr@aol.com>
RE: [Residence Organs]  16' Bourdon pipes available
  by <mblackwell@wallace.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  16' Bourdon pipes available
  by "Eric Sagmuller" <ess4@psu.edu>
C.J. Zimmer
  by "DanielW Hopkins" <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] 16' Bourdon pipes available From: "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 04:45:47 -0800   Hi, Kelvin. I'm not an organ builder, but I've been working with and around them for 35 years or so, and most of the difficulties with ineffective bass pipes that I've seen has been that they were built of lumber that was too thin or light. I was building a set of diaphone resonators and was advised to use two layers of 3/4" ply, making them 1-1/2" thick. It was explained to me that the problem with those too-thin and therefore ineffective pipes was caused by the fact that the pipe material was too easy for the powerful bass vibrations to move, so energy was absorbed moving the pipe walls instead of shaking the surrounding air. Lousy explanation, but I hope you understand what I'm trying to say. Good luck! I'd love to have a 32' stop in my home organ!   At 18:30 02/21/2001 -0700, Kelvin Smith wrote: >I thought I'd build the back wall out of 3 layers of 1/4" plywood (not = cdx >of course). Two layers would be staggered so that there would be no = seams. >The third layer would be in strips leaving groves (dados) for the side >walls of the pipes to fit into. > >I will have to figure out how to scale all of the pipes. > >Kelvin > >----------------------------------------- >www.UntraveledRoad.com > > > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > > >   Regards, Bob, in beautiful Lake County, California, USA NAWCC 140818 http://www.jps.net/rrloesch alternate mailto:cuckoobob@eudoramail.com    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] 16' Bourdon pipes available From: "steve c bournias" <chrisbournias@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:54:54 -0500   I once owned a 16' panel gedeckt- 12 pipes all in one section...steve bournias   >From: Kelvin Smith <KelvinSmith@untraveledroad.com> >Reply-To: "Residence Organ List" <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> >To: "Residence Organ List" <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> >Subject: [Residence Organs] 16' Bourdon pipes available >Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:30:56 -0700 > >Hi, > >I am going to remove one of the 4 16' flutes from my organ. The pipes = will >be available for free if anyone wants to come get them. There are 12 = notes, >11 of which were made by Johnson and son in 1881. The low C pipe was = added >by Hillgreen-lane in the 1940's to rescale them. I am in Idaho so it = won't >be worth the gas for you east coast folks. > >When I installed these pipes, I wasn't too sure which of the two pedal >flutes I would want to use in the long run. As it turned out these are a >bit on the soft side and the other set, which is quite a bit heftier, is >needed for a good solid pedal flute. There are two manual 16' flutes for >softer options. > >I need to free up this space to make room for a 32' flute, an extension = off >the other 16'. I said before Christmas that if I didn't do anything else = on >the organ this year, I was going to get a 32' flute. I intend to build = them >myself. I plan to make them all attached to each other with a common wall >on the back. Then I plan to rack the 16' wood diapason onto the back of >them. When I worked at Bigelow organ company we made a few 16' flute = pipes >that were ganged together in groups of 2s and 3s. I don't know if any = whole >set of 12 pipes have ever been ganged together, maybe it would be unique. = I >doubt it could ever be moved. > >I thought I'd build the back wall out of 3 layers of 1/4" plywood (not = cdx >of course). Two layers would be staggered so that there would be no = seams. >The third layer would be in strips leaving groves (dados) for the side >walls of the pipes to fit into. > >I will have to figure out how to scale all of the pipes. > >Kelvin > >----------------------------------------- >www.UntraveledRoad.com > > > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org >   _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] 16' Bourdon pipes available From: <Pipewheezr@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:39:45 EST     --part1_76.7fe3333.27c68cc1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi   I have a ganged 16' Gedeckt.Pipe 1 through 7 are ganged and 8 through 18 = are ganged. Each pipe has two valves, one bigger than the other and it all = sounds really good. I had to put a block at the wind opening on one of the pipes because it was slow to speak, I guess the wind sheet was not hitting the = top lip in the right spot and there was not a way to adjust the lower lip. 32 foot bordons are on my wish list, along the place to put them. The = resultant works really good on some notes and "eh " on others. Well, have fun today. Dennis   --part1_76.7fe3333.27c68cc1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hi <BR> <BR>I have a ganged 16' Gedeckt.Pipe 1 through 7 are ganged and 8 through = 18 are <BR>ganged. Each pipe has two valves, one bigger than the other and it all = sounds <BR>really good. I had to put a block at the wind opening on one of the = pipes <BR>because it was slow to speak, I guess the wind sheet was not hitting = the top <BR>lip in the right spot and there was not a way to adjust the lower lip. = 32 <BR>foot bordons are on my wish list, along the place to put them. The = resultant <BR>works really good on some notes and "eh " <BR>on others. <BR>Well, have fun today. <BR>Dennis</FONT></HTML>   --part1_76.7fe3333.27c68cc1_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] 16' Bourdon pipes available From: <mblackwell@wallace.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:01:47 -0600   There's a tracker in a local church with a ganged pedal rank as part of = the left and right sides of the case.   The pipes have a common front wall - the outside of the lower organ case. They are inverted, with the mouths forming a row of small slit openings in the case - I missed them until I saw the stoppers on the inside of the = case and went back outside to find the mouths. The shared back wall of the = pipes was cut stair-step to allow easy access to the stoppers.   Mike Blackwell  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] 16' Bourdon pipes available From: "Eric Sagmuller" <ess4@psu.edu> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 11:52:46 -0500   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1229261729=3D=3D_ma=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" ; format=3D"flowed"   At 10:39 AM -0500 2/22/01, Pipewheezr@aol.com wrote: > 32 foot bordons are on my wish list, along the place to put them. >The resultant >works really good on some notes and "eh " >on others.   Yes I'd love to have some too. I have the height but am pressed on the horiz. space to put them. They get quite large at that low pitch. Building some has also crossed my mind but there is alot of wood involved, and at that pitch I believe the wood should probably be 1 1/4 to 1 1/2" thick. I think I'll just use a resultant for now. Electronic is also an option but I really would like the real thing better. A 16' Diapason is another wish too.   Have fun, Eric   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1229261729=3D=3D_ma=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=3D"us-ascii"   At 10:39 AM -0500 2/22/01, Pipewheezr@aol.com wrote:   <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller> 32 foot bordons are on my wish list, along the place to put them. The resultant   works really good on some notes and "eh "   on others.   </smaller></fontfamily></excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>   Yes I'd love to have some too. I have the height but am pressed on the horiz. space to put them. They get quite large at that low pitch. Building some has also crossed my mind but there is alot of wood involved, and at that pitch I believe the wood should probably be 1 1/4 to 1 1/2" thick. I think I'll just use a resultant for now. Electronic is also an option but I really would like the real thing better. A 16' Diapason is another wish too.     Have fun,   Eric </smaller></fontfamily>   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1229261729=3D=3D_ma=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D--  
(back) Subject: C.J. Zimmer From: "DanielW Hopkins" <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:59:21 -0400   Got a Question I got a rank of pipes with C.J. Zimmer stamped on the low CC pipe also on it is 2582 stapmed and written on it is also A440 and small numbers 1930 any one be able to tell me thwe history of the name mentioned above, = wether he was an Organ builder or Pipe Maker danielwh '3000' E.Power Biggs Fellow