DIYAPASON-L Digest #226 - Sunday, January 7, 2001
 
Re: [Residence Organs]  VoxCatoe Newsletter On-LIne (cross posted)
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Moller being given away
  by "John P. Smith" <jnksd82@home.com>
electronic reverb for a pipe organ?
  by <Ed_Stauff@avid.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Moller being given away
  by "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org>
Re: [Residence Organs]  electronic reverb for a pipe organ?
  by <DBnMOPS@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Rolling Wind Chests?
  by "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] VoxCatoe Newsletter On-LIne (cross posted) From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 08:03:12 -0500   Hi Jon-   I've put CATOE's homepage on my 'favourites' list for future = reference. Years ago I played the Mundelein organ when John Seng reigned supreme = there: What a thrill for an aspiring organist! -tho it *still* didn't out-do the Stadium beast -my first love.   Ahhhhh, Chicago memories!   Rick central Indiana      
(back) Subject: Moller being given away From: "John P. Smith" <jnksd82@home.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 08:31:15 -0600   Hi Folks-- On the Church Organ Trader message board (www.keyboardtrader.com) there's = a posting that a Lutheran Church in Maryland is GIVING AWAY a 1960 2/27 = Moller to whoever will remove it by the end of April...   Wish I had room!   There are also several interesting consoles listed, including what sounds like a nice vintage Moller 3 manual drawknob updated with with solid state comb action for $1000, and a similar one with older internals for $500.     John P. Smith Champaign IL    
(back) Subject: electronic reverb for a pipe organ? From: <Ed_Stauff@avid.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 13:14:14 -0500       Has anyone tried adding electronic reverb to a pipe organ in a room that's too small or too dead to provide natural reverb? If so, how successful was it?   Thanks,   -- Ed   #=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D#=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D#=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D# | Ed Stauff, principal software eng. | I don't speak | "Specialization | | Avid Technology, Tewksbury MA, USA | for Avid, nor | is for insects." | | "ed_stauff#@#avid.com" (remove #'s) | vice versa. | -- Lazarus Long | #=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D#=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D#=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D#      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Moller being given away From: "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:44:04 -0500   > On the Church Organ Trader message board (www.keyboardtrader.com) = there's a > posting that a Lutheran Church in Maryland is GIVING AWAY a 1960 2/27 = Moller > to whoever will remove it by the end of April... > > Wish I had room!   Thee and me, too! <sigh!> Well, I hope it at least finds a good, appreciative home. TommyLee Reston, VA    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] electronic reverb for a pipe organ? From: <DBnMOPS@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 18:06:05 EST     --part1_26.f8af141.278a505d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/7/2001 1:15:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ed_Stauff@avid.com writes:     > Has anyone tried adding electronic reverb to a pipe organ in a room > that's too small or too dead to provide natural reverb? If so, how > successful was it? > >   Yes, with only fair results, in my experience. Years ago, I had a Schober "Reverb-a-Tape" hooked up, with mic's in each chamber. This produced a = nice effect, but had lots of pre-Dolby tape hiss besides. Those units actually recorded the organ sounds on a continuous tape loop, then immediately = played them back, at decreasing levels, on three sucessive playback heads. The = last playback head fed an adjustable portion of the signal back to the record head, so that you could crank this effect up to Notre Dame proportions, = altho tottering on the brink of feedback. More recently, I use an "Alesis Nanoverb" digital unit, which eliminates the hiss and reduces the feedback =   problem, but also doesn't have a very authentic sound like the Schober's actual recording. I assume this is because the Alesis is about a $50 unit from the local guitar store, and just isn't sophisticated enough to = produce a good qualtiy recording. Both of these systems just fed into the "Aux. = Input" of my stereo system, which happens to have speakers behind the console. = I'll be anxious to hear if anyone has a better system to report on! Doug   --part1_26.f8af141.278a505d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 1/7/2001 1:15:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, <BR>Ed_Stauff@avid.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Has anyone tried = adding electronic reverb to a pipe organ in a room <BR>that's too small or too dead to provide natural reverb? &nbsp;If so, = how <BR>successful was it? <BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>Yes, with only fair results, in my experience. Years ago, I had a = Schober <BR>"Reverb-a-Tape" hooked up, with mic's in each chamber. = &nbsp;This produced a nice <BR>effect, but had lots of pre-Dolby tape hiss = besides. Those units actually <BR>recorded the organ sounds on a = continuous tape loop, then immediately played <BR>them back, at decreasing = levels, on three sucessive playback heads. The last <BR>playback head fed = an adjustable portion of the signal back to the record <BR>head, so that = you could crank this effect up to Notre Dame proportions, altho = <BR>tottering on the brink of feedback. &nbsp;More recently, I use an = "Alesis <BR>Nanoverb" digital unit, which eliminates the hiss and reduces = the feedback <BR>problem, but also doesn't have a very authentic sound = like the Schober's <BR>actual recording. I assume this is because the = Alesis is about a $50 unit <BR>from the local guitar store, and just isn't = sophisticated enough to produce a <BR>good qualtiy recording. Both o! f these systems just fed into the "Aux. Input" <BR>of my stereo system, = which happens to have speakers behind the console. I'll <BR>be anxious to = hear if anyone has a better system to report on! &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Doug</FONT></HTML>   --part1_26.f8af141.278a505d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Rolling Wind Chests? From: "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net> Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 22:43:38 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_007A_01C07832.1C6EDF60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hi - the "rolling" chest I made and used for basses of 3 ranks gave me no tuning problems, probably because the pipes were not very small, and would have required some serious shaking to go out. (Bourdon 8', Dulciana 4', and Gemshorn 4', 12 pipes each)   Ed - in Maine ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Bart Kleineweber=3D20 To: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 5:18 PM Subject: [Residence Organs] Rolling Wind Chests?     Dear List:   I am planning to build a rolling facade and chest combination   snip   . Putting chests on wheels for tuning access, therefore, would be a =3D nightmare of retuning compared to the convenience created by the extra =3D access. Remember you can tune pipes as much as 5 feet away, because =3D your arm is over two f=3D20   Sincerely,   Bart Kleineweber=3D20 Chicago, IL=3D20 http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org/webpages/kleineweber/=3D20 prinzipal8@hotmail.com=3D20           ------=3D_NextPart_000_007A_01C07832.1C6EDF60 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2014.210" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi - the "rolling" chest I made and = =3D used for basses=3D20 of 3 ranks</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>gave me no tuning problems, probably = =3D because the=3D20 pipes</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>were not very small, and would have = =3D required some=3D20 serious</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>shaking to go out.&nbsp; (Bourdon =3D 8',&nbsp;=3D20 Dulciana 4', and Gemshorn</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>4',&nbsp; 12 pipes each)</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Ed - in Maine</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = =3D 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A href=3D3D"mailto:prinzipal8@hotmail.com" =3D title=3D3Dprinzipal8@hotmail.com>Bart=3D20 Kleineweber</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org"=3D20 title=3D3DDIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org>DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 06, =3D 2001 5:18=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Residence Organs] =3D Rolling Wind=3D20 Chests?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <P>Dear List:</P> <P>I am planning to build a rolling facade and chest combination <P><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>snip</FONT> <P>.&nbsp; Putting chests on wheels for tuning access, therefore, =3D would be a=3D20 nightmare of retuning compared to the convenience created by the extra = =3D   access.&nbsp; Remember you can tune pipes as much as 5 feet away, =3D because your=3D20 arm is over two f=3D20 <P>Sincerely,</P> <P>Bart Kleineweber <BR>Chicago, IL=3D20 <BR>http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org/webpages/kleineweber/=3D20 <BR>prinzipal8@hotmail.com <BR></P><BR =3D clear=3D3Dall></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_007A_01C07832.1C6EDF60--