DIYAPASON-L Digest #232 - Saturday, January 13, 2001
 
Homebrew Pipe Organ
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Wanna be involved
  by "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Homebrew Pipe Organ
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
8' Diapason up and running
  by "Jane and Dave Whitmore" <JDWhitmore@worldnet.att.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  8' Diapason up and running
  by "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net>
Mounting large pipes off chests
  by <GEU30CG@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Mounting large pipes off chests
  by "Jimmy" <jrbaird@erols.com>
 

(back) Subject: Homebrew Pipe Organ From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 09:01:55 -0600   I am sure that some of you may have seen this since i got the following URL from a posting on the Threatreorgans list but I thought i would pass it along for the rest of the members.   http://www.sentex.net/~mwandel/organ/organ.html   I found it interesting that this person without much knowledge of pipe organs came up with something that is workable. I am also surprised that his being a computer geek he didn't do some research on the Net to get some ideas/answers. Do check it out.   David  
(back) Subject: Wanna be involved From: "mike" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 15:36:20 -0500   Mike Gettelman wrote:   Hello Fellow Listers,   I would be interested to hear from anyone out there in the Cleveland, Ohio area who is building, maintaining, or in any way working hands on with a pipe organ or organs, either theater or classical, and might want some volunteer help from a dedicated but inexperienced enthusiast who is willing to learn from the ground up.   Thanks Mike    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Homebrew Pipe Organ From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 17:50:10 -0500   Delightful instrument this young man built! I've saved his page on Favourites and will examine it closer later. His art-work is neat -wish I could do that on computer, but it's all I can do to turn mine on!   With a little coaching, he could go far. More power to him!   Rick    
(back) Subject: 8' Diapason up and running From: "Jane and Dave Whitmore" <JDWhitmore@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 18:40:13 -0500   Maybe this belongs in the inspiration department: If you work at something =   long enough you'll eventually finish it!   When I moved to this "new" house 15 years ago I had to store the 8' diapason for the 2/3 Wicks in the barn because the living room ceiling wasn't tall enough. It worked fine in the old house with a 16' ceiling but =   no go here. Today, after 15 years, I finally finished the installation. Today we carried the pipes from the barn through a foot of snow and it was =   something of an adventure just to get them into the house. Here are a few =   thoughts for the other home builders.   I ended up with a "gun rack" mounting system. The windchest is mounted vertically and the pipes project horizontally. The gun rack supports the pipes at two places and so far (after about 6 hours) it hasn't collapsed. (Ask me again in the morning--if there's a big crash in the night I'm not going to look).   There are 2" OSI flanges attached around the original toe holes in the chest and there's 2" windline that slips over the foot of the pipe and the =   chest flange. The windline is clamped on the flange and the toe for a = tight seal. The pipes are thus held in place and sealed and I avoided having to =   use turnbuckles to press the pipes to the chest.   Probably the only drawback is that the low notes are "peeking" from behind =   the organ and take up a lot of wall space in the living room. These diapasons need some body and fender work and aren't what you'd call = elegant display pipes. My wife Jane has been very understanding about this = however! (Whew!)   Next step is to build a small chest for an 8' string offset. The Wicks borrowed the low octave of the 8' flute for the low octave of the 8' = string (as well as the 8' diapason) but I have a nicely mitered string that = should work fine. The only problem will be building a windchest that is about 3" thick! On to the drawing board!   Best of luck to everyone in their projects,   Dave in Vermont    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] 8' Diapason up and running From: "VEAGUE" <dutchorgan@svs.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 21:42:19 -0500   Re: Dave in Vermont-   Congrats on getting the 8' Diapasons in place. My entire organ sits in = a 23'-long room directly above the formal dining room. After I got = everything in, I promptly ran downstairs to see if the ceiling was sagging in yet. Nothing -and that was 6 years ago!   BTW- you CAN build a 3"-deep windchest with DE magnet valves. Design carefully.   Carry on.   Rick    
(back) Subject: Mounting large pipes off chests From: <GEU30CG@aol.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 22:15:33 EST   Hello all-   I am in the midst of installing a 2/7 hybrid organ in my home. The organ = is on 4" of wind but will be winded similar to a Theatre organ with offsets = on their own regulator. The chests will be tremed off the bass end - winded = on the treble side. The pipes will be in a climate controlled basement = chamber with an 8's ceiling. I have never mounted pipes sideways. My wooden = stopped diapason bass notes are going to have to go the sideways route. My = problem is the chest is about 100 inches long with a ceiling that is 96 inches.   I would stack the pipes horizontal. I had considered keeping the chest = along the wall on the floor and running PVC line from each toe hole to the = chest. Some of the air lines from the chest to the note may be almost 9 feet. I want the bass to respond quickly but wonder with that distance between the =   valve and note if I am not setting myself up very well. Would the air "compress" and make the note slow to respond?   I guess I see some options. Which one is best?   1) Not worry about it. It won't be a problem. 2) Have a Direct Electric action mounted directly to each bass note and = use pressure from the regulator split 12 ways to the valves. 3) Split the chest. (yuck) 4) Miter the notes. (yuck two)   OK "short ceiling" folks, what did you do?   Darren Ferreter Cedar Rapids, Iowa GEU30CG@aol.com  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Mounting large pipes off chests From: "Jimmy" <jrbaird@erols.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 22:25:30 -0500   GEU30CG@aol.com wrote: > > I would stack the pipes horizontal. I had considered keeping the chest = along > the wall on the floor and running PVC line from each toe hole to the = chest. > Some of the air lines from the chest to the note may be almost 9 feet. = I > want the bass to respond quickly but wonder with that distance between = the > valve and note if I am not setting myself up very well. Would the air > "compress" and make the note slow to respond?   I installed an 8' open wood (diapason) base (10 pipes) in the ceiling of a room, horizontal and tubed them off. I enlarged the holes in the chest, and used offset (paper and tin foil) tubing, of about 2" diameter. Wind pressure is about 2.5 inches. The pipes speak quite fast, the same as if they were mounted on the chest itself. The tubing runs are about 6/7 feet long. I guess that a lot would depend on the pipes, the cut up, etc.   Jimmy Baird