DIYAPASON-L Digest #353 - Tuesday, July 24, 2001
 
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Glue
  by <Pipewheezr@aol.com>
[Residence Organs] Cements
  by "Hugh Knapton" <knapton@superaje.com>
[Residence Organs]  Re: Barge Cement/Glue
  by "Hugh Knapton" <knapton@superaje.com>
Pipe Organ Available in Baltimore (the short version)
  by "Frank Vanaman" <fvanaman@speakeasy.org>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Glue From: <Pipewheezr@aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 10:39:31 EDT     --part1_bc.17c2bb81.288ee2a3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Fishy subject. When I have used fish glue I found that you could use less glue and it = would set up faster. Or the opposite and have more time. It does clean real easy =   though. I may be using cheap hide glue but it does not seam as sticky as = the fish glue, plus when I first fired up the glue pot the dogs were wondering =   what that smell was and how come I got wasn't sharing with them:).   On pouches, how do you all seal them, if at all.   Have fun. Dennis   --part1_bc.17c2bb81.288ee2a3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Fishy subject. <BR>When I have used fish glue I found that you could use less glue and it = would <BR>set up faster. Or the opposite and have more time. It does clean real = easy <BR>though. I may be using cheap hide glue but it does not seam as sticky = as the <BR>fish glue, plus when I first fired up the glue pot the dogs were = wondering <BR>what that smell was and how come I got wasn't sharing with them:). <BR> <BR>On pouches, how do you all seal them, if at all. <BR> <BR>Have fun. Dennis</FONT></HTML>   --part1_bc.17c2bb81.288ee2a3_boundary--  
(back) Subject: [Residence Organs] Cements From: "Hugh Knapton" <knapton@superaje.com> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:21:09 -0400   Hi List   This recent glue/cement thread seems the opportune time for me to seek = advice:   I have a really nice 3 man. console (HN&B) which I will be soon installing temporarily in a church in Nova Scotia ... I will then remove their Casavant console to rebuild it.   The HNB was a product of the early 60's ... there are several surfaces where the "solid white oak" was partially covered by some sort of black plastic veneer. Several pieces of this plastic are loose, and 1 piece is missing entirely.   It would seem relatively simple to replace the plastic, but I am wondering whether I could remove it all... then I would need to remove all traces (planing is not an option) of the early 60's "contact cement". Anybody have any suggestions?   Hugh    
(back) Subject: [Residence Organs] Re: Barge Cement/Glue From: "Hugh Knapton" <knapton@superaje.com> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:07:55 -0400   Hi Al & List   Somewhat embarrassingly, I now realize that I was already familiar with barge cement. I stopped using it many years ago (probably because of the fumes) and started using "leather weld" by Tandy or "felt & leather glue" from O.S.I. (I don't deal with them much).   I only use these products when I am joining leather to leather (or felt), and NEVER when gluing to wood (shamefully, I admit that I have done that in the past).   When making up pallet leather (combined with felt), I cut out pieces of felt, and apply them to the hair (smooth side .. "scored" with sandpaper)) side of leather, and leave them to dry with weights (books?) on top. I apply the glue to the leather (not the felt). I prefer to do it this way because this form of joint remains "flexible". This is one instance where I do not use either fish or hide glue.   One needs to pay particular attention to where the glue joints are. I have re-leathered many an instrument, where the leather would have survived a further 60-100 years, BUT the glue created a "knife-like edge" which cut through working leathers... this was often where a fibre disk was glued to a pneumatic pouch.... but sometimes is where the pouch is glued too closely to the edge of a pouch hole (this edge should always be "eased").   Hugh                
(back) Subject: Pipe Organ Available in Baltimore (the short version) From: "Frank Vanaman" <fvanaman@speakeasy.org> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 20:18:12 -0400   Hi everyone-   If anyone here is not on piporg-l, and is interested in a 2/10 or so Votteler-Holtkamp-Sparling, let me know. I posted a more substantial = message to piporg-l describing the instrument.   The rules heartily discourage cross posting, so I'm just mentioning it = here rather than dumplicating the original message...   In short: Some friends of mine have it up for sale. It's stored here in Baltimore, = and would require a substantially complete rebuilding. Might be nice for a house, though it's not exactly tiny!   Interested? Let me know and I'll happily forward the whole message privately!   All for the moment.   Frank Vanaman Baltimore