DIYAPASON-L Digest #330 - Sunday, May 27, 2001
 
Enclosures
  by "Nemesio Valle, III" <nevst3@imap.pitt.edu>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Enclosures
  by "Alwyn V. H. Farey-Jones" <avhfj@direcpc.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Enclosures
  by <DBnMOPS@aol.com>
RE: [Residence Organs]  Enclosures
  by "L.Huivenaar" <louis.huivenaar@wxs.nl>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Enclosures
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com>
Re: The Severance Chamber
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
 

(back) Subject: Enclosures From: "Nemesio Valle, III" <nevst3@imap.pitt.edu> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 00:35:27 -0400   Dear Collective Wisdom, Out of which material should one make a swell box? I have seen all sorts, and all sorts of results, and was wondering about list experience. Also, what is the most cost effective material (the most bang for your buck)? I thank you and am,   Appreciatively yours, Nemesio Valle, III -- Nemesio Valle, III University of Pittsburgh Duquesne University   Address: 5802 Callowhill Street Pittsburgh, PA 15206 Phone: 412-365-0340   Email: nevst3@pitt.edu   "The purpose of art is not the release of a momentary ejection of adrenaline but is, rather, the gradual, lifelong construction of a state of wonder and serenity." Glenn Gould   "I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him." Galileo Galilei   "Specialization is for insects." Lazarus Long   "Competitions are for horses, not artists." Bela Bartok   "Understanding is both the first principle and the source of good sound writing." Horace  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Enclosures From: "Alwyn V. H. Farey-Jones" <avhfj@direcpc.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 11:26:36 -0400   Here's a follow up question. Is it ridiculous to think of making the = front wall and shutters of a swell box out of glass (I'd have a bathroom contractor make it like a plate glass frameless shower enclosure, with a series of very narrow doors). I should like to put some of my (future) organ in an attic space (triangular cross section under a traditional = ridge roof) opening off the cathedral ceiling of the main room. There is only space for quite a small division, so I was thinking of putting the choir division there, which it would be approprate to have under expression, of course. With a glass front and some good lighting, I think it could be quite dramatic.   Any thoughts anyone?   Alwyn Jones   PS We completed the concrete foundation of the house this week. At last, = a milestone we can see!     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nemesio Valle, III" <nevst3@imap.pitt.edu> To: "Residence Organ List" <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 12:35 AM Subject: [Residence Organs] Enclosures     > Dear Collective Wisdom, > Out of which material should one make a swell box? I have > seen all sorts, and all sorts of results, and was wondering about > list experience. Also, what is the most cost effective material (the > most bang for your buck)? I thank you and am, > > Appreciatively yours, > Nemesio Valle, III > -- > Nemesio Valle, III > University of Pittsburgh > Duquesne University > > Address: 5802 Callowhill Street > Pittsburgh, PA 15206 > Phone: 412-365-0340 > > Email: nevst3@pitt.edu > > "The purpose of art is not the release of a momentary ejection of > adrenaline but is, rather, the gradual, lifelong construction of a > state of wonder and serenity." > Glenn Gould > > "I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from > him." > Galileo Galilei > > "Specialization is for insects." > Lazarus Long > > "Competitions are for horses, not artists." > Bela Bartok > > "Understanding is both the first principle and the source of good > sound writing." > Horace > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > Residence Pipe Organs. > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Enclosures From: <DBnMOPS@aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 11:38:30 EDT     --part1_8a.7352423.28427976_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 5/27/2001 11:27:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, avhfj@direcpc.com writes:     > . Is it ridiculous to think of making the front >   The former Paramount Music Palace theater organ in Indianapolis, IN, had clear (I think Plexiglass) swell shades and they were visually very effective! The organist said that they were somewhat less effective than wooden shades in attenuating the sound, and, now that the organ is = relocated in Ellenton, FL, the organ sits behind behind (double?) glass windows with =   conventional shades above. Doug   --part1_8a.7352423.28427976_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 5/27/2001 11:27:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, <BR>avhfj@direcpc.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">. &nbsp;Is it = ridiculous to think of making the front <BR>wall and shutters of a swell box out of glass </BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>The former Paramount Music Palace theater organ in Indianapolis, IN, = had <BR>clear (I think Plexiglass) swell shades and they were visually very <BR>effective! The organist said that they were somewhat less effective = than <BR>wooden shades in attenuating the sound, and, now that the organ is = relocated <BR>in Ellenton, FL, the organ sits behind behind (double?) glass windows = with <BR>conventional shades above. <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Doug</FONT></HTML>   --part1_8a.7352423.28427976_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] Enclosures From: "L.Huivenaar" <louis.huivenaar@wxs.nl> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 18:25:53 +0200   In the Main Church ( Catholic) of Heimbach in Germany the new = trackersystem churchorgan ( Baroc concept) has on its 3th manual in the top a plexiglass wall swell room.   Greetings   Louis Huivenaar Netherlands Harmonium and Reedorgan restorer Appraiser under Oath for Harmoniums and Reedorgans in Europe +31 75 684 4858 ( Tel/Fax Factory) +31 75 684 6552 ( Privat) +31 653 117 697 ( Mobil) Website: www.harmonium.com   -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org [mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org]Namens = Alwyn V. H. Farey-Jones Verzonden: zondag 27 mei 2001 17:27 Aan: Residence Organ List Onderwerp: Re: [Residence Organs] Enclosures   Here's a follow up question. Is it ridiculous to think of making the = front wall and shutters of a swell box out of glass (I'd have a bathroom contractor make it like a plate glass frameless shower enclosure, with a series of very narrow doors). I should like to put some of my (future) organ in an attic space (triangular cross section under a traditional = ridge roof) opening off the cathedral ceiling of the main room. There is only space for quite a small division, so I was thinking of putting the choir division there, which it would be approprate to have under expression, of course. With a glass front and some good lighting, I think it could be quite dramatic.   Any thoughts anyone?   Alwyn Jones   PS We completed the concrete foundation of the house this week. At last, = a milestone we can see!     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nemesio Valle, III" <nevst3@imap.pitt.edu> To: "Residence Organ List" <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 12:35 AM Subject: [Residence Organs] Enclosures     > Dear Collective Wisdom, > Out of which material should one make a swell box? I have > seen all sorts, and all sorts of results, and was wondering about > list experience. Also, what is the most cost effective material (the > most bang for your buck)? I thank you and am, > > Appreciatively yours, > Nemesio Valle, III > -- > Nemesio Valle, III > University of Pittsburgh > Duquesne University > > Address: 5802 Callowhill Street > Pittsburgh, PA 15206 > Phone: 412-365-0340 > > Email: nevst3@pitt.edu > > "The purpose of art is not the release of a momentary ejection of > adrenaline but is, rather, the gradual, lifelong construction of a > state of wonder and serenity." > Glenn Gould > > "I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from > him." > Galileo Galilei > > "Specialization is for insects." > Lazarus Long > > "Competitions are for horses, not artists." > Bela Bartok > > "Understanding is both the first principle and the source of good > sound writing." > Horace > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > Residence Pipe Organs. > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org >     DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own Residence Pipe Organs. HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Enclosures From: "Mac Hayes" <mach37@ptw.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 14:25:22 -0700   "Alwyn V. H. Farey-Jones" wrote: > ... Is it ridiculous to think of making the front > wall and shutters of a swell box out of glass ...   The Music Palace in Sharonville, Ohio, (a Cincinnati suburb) has the featured Wurlitzer innards completely 'under glass.' The entire stage wall is glassed in; the blower/regulator area below below 'stage level' is well-lit and all the moving parts can be seen pumping, bouncing and oscillating away, and the upper sections are also totally windowed, with very tall vertical swell shutters also of see-through material. The percussions are out in the open, as is the brass trumpet en chamade above the balcony in the rear of the room.   Mac Hayes Rosamond, CA  
(back) Subject: Re: The Severance Chamber From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 22:38:11 -0400   On Wed. 5/23/01 I posted the following announcement: ---------------------------------------------------- On Thursday, May 31, I will have the honor and privilege to attend a performance of the Cleveland Orchestra and the Norton Memorial Organ in performance of Saint-Saens "Organ Symphony" and Jongen "Symphonie Concertante.   The unique aspect of this concert experience is I have been invited to attend from behind the facade, in the pipe chamber. Frankly, I get shiver chills just thinking about feeling the sound waves. To view the inner workings of the instrument during the dynamics of performance will   be an awesome experience. ---------------------------------------------------   Due to many the replies to this post expressing concern for my hearing, and suggesting ear protection be worn, I thought perhaps some clarification was indicated. Although I will have the chance to visit the entire organ prior to the concert, my position during the performance places me between the pipe chamber and behind the orchestra, not actually inside the chamber, hence "behind the facade". I will be positioned outside the swell enclosures and experience sound levels no higher than the orchestra members encounter whenever playing in concerti with the organ. My host for this organ adventure is Mr. Ken List of the Schantz Organ Company who is the Tonal Director for the restoration work done by Schantz on this magnificent E.M. Skinner instrument. He has attended every concert since the completion of the restoration, from the same position behind the facade that I will be placed for the concert. I have every confidence that Mr. List would never expose his own most valuable hearing to sound levels that are at all dangerous. Another point that seems to have been overlooked is, the music reaches fortissimo levels for short periods only. I will not be exposed to the kind of sustained high db levels that damage hearing. I look most forward to hearing the more soft stops of Mr. Skinner's design in such close proximity. So, thank you to all who were concerned for my hearing, and I look forward to giving you a detailed report after the concert. To keep from boring those who think this adventure is a waste of time, I will be simply posting a website link that interested parties can visit, complete with pictures. I thank Mr. Ken List and the Schantz Organ Company for giving me this educational experience from such a unique perspective. I think it will be the best seat in the house.   Cheers Mike Gettelman