DIYAPASON-L Digest #331 - Monday, May 28, 2001
 
Re: [Residence Organs]  Enclosures
  by <Pipewheezr@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Enclosures
  by "Alwyn V. H. Farey-Jones" <avhfj@direcpc.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Enclosures
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Enclosures
  by "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Enclosures From: <Pipewheezr@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:58:54 EDT     --part1_96.14ee39a9.2843c1ae_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Happy holiday! I have a set of Moller glass shades from Organ power pizza = in Pacific Beach. Wood frame with glass in the frame. I am using them for the =   choir shades. If you have any questions let know. Dennis   --part1_96.14ee39a9.2843c1ae_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Happy holiday! I have a = set of Moller glass shades from Organ power pizza in <BR>Pacific Beach. Wood frame with glass in the frame. I am using them for = the <BR>choir shades. <BR>If you have any questions let know. <BR>Dennis</FONT></HTML>   --part1_96.14ee39a9.2843c1ae_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Enclosures From: "Alwyn V. H. Farey-Jones" <avhfj@direcpc.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:00:54 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_002C_01C0E765.7720B800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   You don't happen to have a photograph, do you?   Best wishes, . . . . . Alwyn Jones ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Pipewheezr@aol.com=3D20 To: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Enclosures     Happy holiday! I have a set of Moller glass shades from Organ power =3D pizza in=3D20 Pacific Beach. Wood frame with glass in the frame. I am using them for = =3D the=3D20 choir shades.=3D20 If you have any questions let know.=3D20 Dennis=3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_002C_01C0E765.7720B800 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4613.1700" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>You don't happen to have a = photograph, =3D do=3D20 you?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Best wishes, . . . . =3D ..&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Alwyn=3D20 Jones</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3DPipewheezr@aol.com=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:Pipewheezr@aol.com">Pipewheezr@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3DDIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org">DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org</A> = =3D </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 28, 2001 =3D 10:58 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Residence Organs] = =3D   Enclosures</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D3D2>Happy =3D holiday! I have a=3D20 set of Moller glass shades from Organ power pizza in <BR>Pacific =3D Beach. Wood=3D20 frame with glass in the frame. I am using them for the <BR>choir =3D shades.=3D20 <BR>If you have any questions let know. <BR>Dennis</FONT>=3D20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_002C_01C0E765.7720B800--    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Enclosures From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@arkansas.net> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:47:45 -0500   At 11:26 AM 5/27/01 -0400, Alwyn wrote: >Here's a follow up question. Is it ridiculous to think of making the = front >wall and shutters of a swell box out of glass <snip>   Greetings, everyone!   As some have pointed out, glass has certainly been used for various forms of swell fronts/enclosures for organs. Besides pizza organs and home installations, I've even seen several "church" organs utilizing glass shades in some form or other. (Wicks made a 'stock-model' organ with = glass shades -- the "Forward Four", I think they called it -- and sold a good number of them through the 70's and 80's (?).)   Glass does have a problem with organ usage though -- the fact that it is *not* a very good acoustic insulator. Thus, the larger the amount of = glass surface in an enclosure =3D the *lesser* the effectiveness of that = enclosure to contain the sound. Louder and/or lower pitched sounds are particularly difficult to contain behind glass.   The end result of all this is simply that a pipe enclosure with a glass front would be LESS effective at shutting down the sound of a division than the same enclosure with a conventional wood front. Not *in*-effective, per se -- just *less* effective.   In your situation, Alwyn, (as I understand it) the acoustic effect would probably be minimal, as you're speaking of a presumably small, softer division of your organ. Also, as you describe it, the visual effect to be gained would likely far outweigh the slight loss of expression range.   SOOOO..., go for it, Alwyn!! <g> I hope we all get to see some pictures of the installation someday soon!!   Regards to all,   Tim Bovard Little Rock AR    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Enclosures From: "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 17:27:10 -0400   > Glass does have a problem with organ usage though -- the fact that it is > *not* a very good acoustic insulator. Thus, the larger the amount of = glass > surface in an enclosure =3D the *lesser* the effectiveness of that = enclosure > to contain the sound. Louder and/or lower pitched sounds are = particularly > difficult to contain behind glass.   Just wondering here since no one has mentioned it, but has anyone tried = using double or triple pane insulated glass (or plexiglass) for the shades? = Would the thermal insulation effect not also enhance the sound insulation?   Cheers, TommyLee