DIYAPASON-L Digest #436 - Wednesday, November 14, 2001
 
an update, kind of.... and blower question
  by <Mollerpo@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  an update, kind of.... and blower question
  by "Jan S. Van Der Stad" <dorian@nac.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  an update, kind of.... and blower question
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  an update, kind of.... and blower question
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: Helping out parish in Texas
  by <Jess4203@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: an update, kind of.... and blower question From: <Mollerpo@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 15:24:40 EST     --part1_b4.1ae003e.29242d08_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Thanks to everyone for the chest ideas... things are getting better!   I tore the chest down and cleaned out all of the channels. The valve = leather is in near perfect condition. The valves work much better when only one = rank is winded rather than the whole chest. Could the problem be insufficient = wind pressure. As it stands, I have a 3/4 horse Kinetic putting out a little = less than 3", which seems to be the max it will go. If I give a slam down on = the reservoir all offensive notes sound until each valve is released.   I have come to the conclusion that this blower is too small for the entire =   organ and was used only for the choir division that was originally in the gallery of the church. I also have a 3 horse Spencer that supposedly puts = out 10". Does this sould more reasonable for about 20 ranks? However the motor = is stuck and currently is being looked at by the electric guy down the = street. Any service or replacement info for an ancient motor?   Thanks as always, Brian   --part1_b4.1ae003e.29242d08_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#800040" SIZE=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial Rounded MT Bold" LANG=3D"0">Thanks to = everyone for the chest ideas... things are getting better!<BR> <BR> I tore the chest down and cleaned out all of the channels. The valve = leather is in near perfect condition. The valves work much better when = only one rank is winded rather than the whole chest. Could the problem be = insufficient wind pressure. As it stands, I have a 3/4 horse Kinetic = putting out a little less than 3", which seems to be the max it will go. = If I give a slam down on the reservoir all offensive notes sound until = each valve is released.<BR> <BR> I have come to the conclusion that this blower is too small for the entire = organ and was used only for the choir division that was originally in the = gallery of the church. I also have a 3 horse Spencer that supposedly puts = out 10". Does this sould more reasonable for about 20 ranks? However the = motor is stuck and currently is being looked at by the electric guy down = the street. Any service or replacement info for an ancient motor?<BR> <BR> Thanks as always,<BR> Brian</FONT></HTML>   --part1_b4.1ae003e.29242d08_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] an update, kind of.... and blower question From: "Jan S. Van Der Stad" <dorian@nac.net> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 15:30:18 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0020_01C16D21.443FE130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hi, Brian   If this chest is a Moller, I understand it won't operate very well under = =3D about 5" of wind pressure.   Jan S. Van Der Stad ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Mollerpo@aol.com=3D20 To: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:24 PM Subject: [Residence Organs] an update, kind of.... and blower question     Thanks to everyone for the chest ideas... things are getting better!   I tore the chest down and cleaned out all of the channels. The valve =3D leather is in near perfect condition. The valves work much better when =3D only one rank is winded rather than the whole chest. Could the problem =3D be insufficient wind pressure. As it stands, I have a 3/4 horse Kinetic = =3D putting out a little less than 3", which seems to be the max it will go. = =3D If I give a slam down on the reservoir all offensive notes sound until =3D each valve is released.   I have come to the conclusion that this blower is too small for the =3D entire organ and was used only for the choir division that was =3D originally in the gallery of the church. I also have a 3 horse Spencer =3D that supposedly puts out 10". Does this sould more reasonable for about = =3D 20 ranks? However the motor is stuck and currently is being looked at by = =3D the electric guy down the street. Any service or replacement info for an = =3D ancient motor?   Thanks as always, Brian=3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0020_01C16D21.443FE130 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4807.2300" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New" size=3D3D2>Hi, Brian</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New" size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New" size=3D3D2>If this chest is a Moller, I = =3D understand it=3D20 won't operate very well under about 5" of wind pressure.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New" size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New" size=3D3D2>Jan S. Van Der =3D Stad</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3DMollerpo@aol.com =3D href=3D3D"mailto:Mollerpo@aol.com">Mollerpo@aol.com</A>=3D20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3DDIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org">DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org</A> = =3D </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 14, = =3D 2001 3:24=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Residence Organs] an = =3D update,=3D20 kind of.... and blower question</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0=3D20 face=3D3D"Arial Rounded MT Bold" color=3D3D#800040 size=3D3D2 =3D FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">Thanks to=3D20 everyone for the chest ideas... things are getting better!<BR><BR>I =3D tore the=3D20 chest down and cleaned out all of the channels. The valve leather is =3D in near=3D20 perfect condition. The valves work much better when only one rank is =3D winded=3D20 rather than the whole chest. Could the problem be insufficient wind =3D pressure.=3D20 As it stands, I have a 3/4 horse Kinetic putting out a little less =3D than 3",=3D20 which seems to be the max it will go. If I give a slam down on the =3D reservoir=3D20 all offensive notes sound until each valve is released.<BR><BR>I have = =3D come to=3D20 the conclusion that this blower is too small for the entire organ and = =3D was used=3D20 only for the choir division that was originally in the gallery of the =3D church.=3D20 I also have a 3 horse Spencer that supposedly puts out 10". Does this = =3D sould=3D20 more reasonable for about 20 ranks? However the motor is stuck and =3D currently=3D20 is being looked at by the electric guy down the street. Any service or = =3D   replacement info for an ancient motor?<BR><BR>Thanks as=3D20 always,<BR>Brian</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0020_01C16D21.443FE130--    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] an update, kind of.... and blower question From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 16:12:47 EST   Brian---- I question whether or not the fans are properly located on the shaft in = the Kinetic,,,that pressure seems low somehow, are you using an accurate wind gage? From my experience, I would expect a Moller chest in good shape to successfully work down to 3 inches, altho the "test" with the regulator = top that you performed seems to indicate that the pressure is quite low to the =   chest. You say the valve leather is in good shape,,,,how about the note pouch leather? or is that what you are talking about? Is this a unit chest or standard Moller EP? Is it a pitman chest? Tell us some more about it please. Thanks, ---Roc LVRockafellow New Jersey  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] an update, kind of.... and blower question From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 16:16:19 EST   Brian--- What brand of motor is on the 3HP spencer orgoblo? Does the blower = nameplate say 10 inches of wind? What is the speed of the motor? Thanks for a bit more info. ---Roc L V Rockafellow  
(back) Subject: Re: Helping out parish in Texas From: <Jess4203@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 22:26:03 EST     --part1_37.1dde5770.29248fcb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi Group:   I am still negotiating for a small house organ, haven't got it yet. = I did run across a fellow who is looking for an organ of about six to = fifteen ranks for his church, a relatively poor RC parish in Dallas and could use some help. The total budget for the organ and a "professional = installation" is about $20,000. I have sent a few emails sharing what little I know = about such an idea. I don't think that price is going to get an organ and a = total professional installation, but I suggested to the fellow, a Daniel Muller, =   that what he needs is some knowledgeable help from some organ-nuts along = with a professional consultant. He has none of these in his congregation, but = I know there are some of you in Texas and I thought perhaps there is someone =   who would help out or even know of an available organ. There is evidently =   plenty of room in the choir loft and esthetics (casework) are not real important. Should you want to contact Mr. Muller, the email address is: dvm5704@dcccd.ed   This is not strictly about a residence organ (well, I guess it is, = it's God's house), but it is about amateur organbuilding, so I thought it was appropriate. I hope this and some of the other little good deeds I'm = doing will swing some weight in getting me my house organ . . . <BG>. Right now =   I'm going thru the archives again, and they're making more sense this = second time thru, so I guess I'm learning something.   Regards, Roy Kersey   --part1_37.1dde5770.29248fcb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hi Group: <BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I am still negotiating for a small house = organ, haven't got it yet. &nbsp;I did run across a fellow who is looking = for an organ of about six to fifteen ranks for his church, a relatively = poor RC parish in Dallas and could use some help. &nbsp;The total budget = for the organ and a "professional installation" is about $20,000. &nbsp;I = have sent a few emails sharing what little I know about such an idea. = &nbsp;I don't think that price is going to get an organ and a total = professional installation, but I suggested to the fellow, a Daniel Muller, = that what he needs is some knowledgeable help from some organ-nuts along = with a professional consultant. &nbsp;He has none of these in his = congregation, but I know there are some of you in Texas and I thought = perhaps there is someone who would help out or even know of an available = organ. &nbsp;There is evidently plenty of room in the choir loft and = esthetics (casework) are not real important. &nbsp;Should you want to con <BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;This is not strictly about a residence organ = (well, I guess it is, it's God's house), but it is about amateur = organbuilding, so I thought it was appropriate. &nbsp;I hope this and some = of the other little good deeds I'm doing will swing some weight in getting = me my house organ . . . &lt;BG&gt;. &nbsp;Right now I'm going thru the = archives again, and they're making more sense this second time thru, so I = guess I'm learning something. <BR> <BR>Regards, <BR>Roy Kersey &nbsp;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_37.1dde5770.29248fcb_boundary--