DIYAPASON-L Digest #405 - Friday, October 5, 2001
 
RE: [Residence Organs]  cleaning zinc pipes
  by "Gregory Rister" <grandcornet@earthlink.net>
Re:  Blower Enclosure Questions
  by "Dave McClellan" <deep_tremolo@hotmail.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re:  Blower Enclosure Questions
  by <Mpmollerorgan@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] cleaning zinc pipes From: "Gregory Rister" <grandcornet@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:12:27 -0700   I am assuming you're talking about flue pipes. And it depends on how = clean you need to get them.   It sounds like you've got a set that has a lot of white powdery oxidation. =   To deal with this, what I usually do is wash the pipes down well, with a mild dish detergent (but not too much) and water. If you still appear to have quite a bit of oxidation present, then (and the next step may sound a little strange, but it works) make a cleaning trough of a size large = enough to accommodate the largest pipe. This can be made of wood, with a heavy plastic tarp liner. Buy yourself several gallons of white vinegar. Yes, the same stuff you might find in your kitchen. Vinegar is a mild corrosive. Put the vinegar into the trough, and a pipe into the vinegar. Leave it there for about 10 to 15 minutes (but do watch it; different zinc alloys may react differently). Much of the oxidation should disappear. Any oxide "stains" you may be left with you are probably stuck with. Take the pipe out, wash down the pipe thoroughly with water, and let it dry (a good wipedown doesn't hurt).   When the pipes are dry, DO seal them again. Anciently, shellac was used = to seal zinc, but lacquer is probably better, and more durable. If you can = do this inside and out, with a dilute solution of lacquer, you will forestall further oxidation problems.   This is probably not the only way to get the result; I would be interested in hearing how others go about it!   Greg Rister Pipe Organ Craftsmen Pomona, California     > [Original Message] > From: Fr. Larry Covington <larry.covington@St-Louis.org> > To: <diyapason-l@pipechat.org> > Date: 10/04/2001 8:09:54 PM > Subject: [Residence Organs] cleaning zinc pipes >> > Does anyone out there have some favorite methods for cleaning zinc = pipes?   > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > Residence Pipe Organs. > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org       --- Gregory Rister --- grandcornet@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet.      
(back) Subject: Re: Blower Enclosure Questions From: "Dave McClellan" <deep_tremolo@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 13:11:20 -0400   Randall <Mpmollerorgan@aol.com> wrote:   >I would prefer plywood for several reasons, we also line the inside >of the box with acoustic board, so really it doesn't seem to make a >lot of difference on the type of board used.   I'm curious as to what type of acoustic board do you use? I agree that = the fiberglass may be dangerous in my application, let alone flaking off and getting into the mechanism!   In some other projects (attempting to quiet down an Arndt dump box tremolo =   and a high-speed blower providing high pressure for my console), I used insulation board which used to be commonly used to clad a house before the =   exterior siding was applied. It appears to be a cellulose/paper type product about 1/2" thick with an asphalt coating on one side. It is dark gray. It is VERY cheap: like $4 for a 4x8' sheet. And it's easy to cut. =   It worked in the previous projects.   Does anyone know if this would be preferable to fiberglass? Not being in the trade, I am sort of limited to what I can pick up at Home Depot, = Lowes, etc.   Thanks, Dave     _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Blower Enclosure Questions From: <Mpmollerorgan@aol.com> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 13:23:14 EDT     In a message dated 10/5/01 12:12:29 PM, deep_tremolo@hotmail.com writes:       >I'm curious as to what type of acoustic board do you use? I agree that >the fiberglass may be dangerous in my application, let alone flaking off = and >getting into the mechanism!   I don't remember the name, it is a yellowish 3/4 sheet 4x8' and as I = recall correctly, it runs maybe $60 a sheet. It has a smooth flat hard sort of surface but it's still fiberglass...