DIYAPASON-L Digest #420 - Saturday, October 27, 2001
 
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Spencer blower, Century motor
  by "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net>
Cresendo indicator
  by "Jon Fick" <jon@VermontFicks.org>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Cresendo indicator
  by <Mpmollerorgan@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Cresendo indicator
  by "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Spencer blower, Century motor From: "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 16:08:52 -0700   Private to Roc. Sorry list! Roc, send me your email, as I've finally got the pictures of the Spencer ready to go.   At 12:44 AM 10/23/01 EDT, you wrote: >Bob--- > I would be really interested in seeing a picture of your Spencer = with >the motor modification, should you have it handy. >Thanks in advance, >Cheers, >---Roc > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > >   Regards, Bob, in beautiful Lake County, California, USA NAWCC 140818 http://www.cuckoobob.com alternate mailto:cuckoobob@eudoramail.com    
(back) Subject: Cresendo indicator From: "Jon Fick" <jon@VermontFicks.org> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 22:58:16 -0400   Can someone describe the operation of sequential crescendo indicators?   I've seen the mechanical type that simply have a pointer that moves across = a slot and simply indicates shoe position. What I'm interested in are the type that have lamps or LEDs that are sequential turned on by the = crescendo shoe contacts.   Particularly, is their purpose to tell you the present shoe position just like the mechanical indicators? Or is it rigged such that each lamp turns on when another voice is added into the mix? If it's the latter, how do = you connect it so that it's valid for both Great and Swell? (Consider the instance where you are playing in the Swell, but moving the crescendo happens to add an unheard Great voice and turns on that lamp. Therefore, = a lamp turned on but no additional voice was heard.)   Do any of you have an opinion (quick, duck!) if crescendo indicators, in general, are useful?   Thanks.   Jon Fick Westford, Vermont    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Cresendo indicator From: <Mpmollerorgan@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 23:14:28 EDT     In a message dated 10/27/01 10:01:34 PM, jon@VermontFicks.org writes:   >Do any of you have an opinion (quick, duck!) if crescendo indicators, in >general, are useful?   I do I do... I think they are distractive novelty gadgets, but which after a while = lose their novelty and become more of a distraction. I would first think, does = an organist who is not stone deaf really NEED a bank of glowing lights to = tell him or her what or how many stops are on??   I don't think so. My Moller console has a mechanical indicator which for mild historic = reasons of trying to keep the console original I'd like to make work, however... I =   won't be using the crescendo sho as it was, it will be instead connected = to one of the swell shades (divided chamber Great/Swell under sep expression) = so one shoe will operate the Sw and the other the Gt shade, if I want = crescendo I can darn well hit a thumb piston or tabs. I suppose doing so will mean having to decide how to use the indicator or adding a duplicate.           Randall http://members.aol.com/mpmollerorgan/  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Cresendo indicator From: "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 20:24:23 -0700   As for the physical operation, I'm sure that there are others more qualified than I to describe their operation. The INDICATOR is very useful, as it will let you know if you've got the shoe open with the TubaMagnaPhone 32' during what's supposed to be a quiet passage. Sounds funny, perhaps, but it happened to me during a wedding. As to the crescendo's USE, I can give my own VERY biased opinion. I used to play a Moller in a Lutheran church which had a crescendo, which I regard as next to useless. For liturgical playing, even for incidental music in a = church, the crescendo was not a very useful item FOR ME. For accent effects on a THEATRE organ, the crescendo can be very useful, and I used it quite = freely when playing in a pizza parlor. I'm sure that others have their own opinions. I'll stick by mine.   Bob, renegade theatre organist at large... ;-)   At 10:58 PM 10/27/01 -0400, Jon Fick wrote: >Can someone describe the operation of sequential crescendo indicators? > >I've seen the mechanical type that simply have a pointer that moves = across a >slot and simply indicates shoe position. What I'm interested in are the >type that have lamps or LEDs that are sequential turned on by the = crescendo >shoe contacts. > >Particularly, is their purpose to tell you the present shoe position just >like the mechanical indicators? Or is it rigged such that each lamp = turns >on when another voice is added into the mix? If it's the latter, how do = you >connect it so that it's valid for both Great and Swell? (Consider the >instance where you are playing in the Swell, but moving the crescendo >happens to add an unheard Great voice and turns on that lamp. Therefore, = a >lamp turned on but no additional voice was heard.) > >Do any of you have an opinion (quick, duck!) if crescendo indicators, in >general, are useful? > >Thanks. > >Jon Fick >Westford, Vermont > > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > >