DIYAPASON-L Digest #381 - Friday, September 7, 2001
 
Re: New member organ design replies
  by <Jess4203@aol.com>
RE: [Residence Organs]  Re: New member organ design replies
  by "Fr. Larry Covington" <larry.covington@St-Louis.org>
 

(back) Subject: Re: New member organ design replies From: <Jess4203@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:38:53 EDT     --part1_12e.4498dd7.28ca440d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi, fellow pipe nuts:   Thanks so much for the warm reception and the replies I have already received. I hope there will be a few more. I am learing a lot. I have a =   couple of other questions.   Several people have suggested that I try to find organs to hear and = examine so that I'll know more before trying to acquire anything. In particular small house organs that are ep, tracker, or em. Someone suggested he = could provide the material for a Wicks type house organ (such as those they = built 1960 to 1980's) if that would suit me, so I am searching for one of those = to hear. Since my experience is limited, I could learn a lot from most installations, but I am not going in the Wurli direction as you know from = my first post. I will be traveling from Knoxville to NYC and back October 5 = to 14, and if list members can suggest installations that would welcome a = visit in that time period along or near that route (I-81 thru VA and then I-78 = into NYC), please email me directly. I may also be making the same trip again = in December, around the holidays. I can also travel a few hundred miles from =   Knoxville on most weekends if there are people in the South who could = stand a visit.   I see a lot of references to old builders and their pipework on the list, = but I haven't found any source that would tell me what kinds of organs they = built in what time periods. I'm sure a 1920 Moller (church) organ is a = different animal from a 1960, but I don't know exactly how. Ditto Hilgren Lane, = Hook and Hastings, Votey, Johnson, Pomplitz, Estey, etc. Since I'm interested = in more classical pipework, I'm interested to know what I might find that = would suit or be modified to suit vs what to stay away from. I also find the = whole issue of the history of the pipe organ in America just fascinating anyway. = Jardine, Erben, Tannenberg, etc., etc., etc. Can any one suggest = resources or provide a dissertation on this on list? Am I asking too much?   Best Regards and TIA, Roy Kersey   --part1_12e.4498dd7.28ca440d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hi, fellow pipe nuts: <BR> <BR>Thanks so much for the warm reception and the replies I have already <BR>received. &nbsp;I hope there will be a few more. &nbsp;I am learing a = lot. &nbsp;I have a <BR>couple of other questions. <BR> <BR>Several people have suggested that I try to find organs to hear and = examine <BR>so that I'll know more before trying to acquire anything. &nbsp;In = particular <BR>small house organs that are ep, tracker, or em. &nbsp;Someone = suggested he could <BR>provide the material for a Wicks type house organ (such as those they = built <BR>1960 to 1980's) if that would suit me, so I am searching for one of = those to <BR>hear. &nbsp;Since my experience is limited, I could learn a lot from = most <BR>installations, but I am not going in the Wurli direction as you know = from my <BR>first post. &nbsp;I will be traveling from Knoxville to NYC and back = October 5 to <BR>14, and if list members can suggest installations that would welcome a = visit <BR>in that time period along or near that route (I-81 thru VA and then = I-78 into <BR>NYC), please email me directly. &nbsp;I may also be making the same = trip again in <BR>December, around the holidays. &nbsp;I can also travel a few hundred = miles from <BR>Knoxville on most weekends if there are people in the South who could = stand a <BR>visit. <BR> <BR>I see a lot of references to old builders and their pipework on the = list, but <BR>I haven't found any source that would tell me what kinds of organs = they built <BR>in what time periods. &nbsp;I'm sure a 1920 Moller (church) organ is a = different <BR>animal from a 1960, but I don't know exactly how. &nbsp;Ditto Hilgren = Lane, Hook <BR>and Hastings, Votey, Johnson, Pomplitz, Estey, etc. &nbsp;Since I'm interested in <BR>more classical pipework, I'm interested to know what I might find that = would <BR>suit or be modified to suit vs what to stay away from. &nbsp;I also = find the whole <BR>issue of the history of the pipe organ in America just fascinating = anyway. &nbsp; <BR>Jardine, Erben, Tannenberg, etc., etc., etc. &nbsp;Can any one suggest = resources <BR>or provide a dissertation on this on list? &nbsp;Am I asking too much? <BR> <BR>Best Regards and TIA, <BR>Roy Kersey &nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_12e.4498dd7.28ca440d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] Re: New member organ design replies From: "Fr. Larry Covington" <larry.covington@St-Louis.org> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 15:59:58 -0500   Hi Roy,   There are losts of good books of the topics you are interested in. I = would suggest checking out the Organ Literature Foundation. They carry books by Orpha Ochse on the hisorical American Organs. There are several books on the works of Tannenberg et.al. Collecting pipes for your project can be fun and rewarding but be careful about such things as scale and windpressure. For instance I don't think = you will be interested in a Kimball Diapason with a scale of 42 on a windpressure of 10 inches! Be aware too that you can save a great deal = of space by using a common bass for some ranks. What I mean by this is you = can have several ranks end at tenor c which is the c below middle c. The bass notes provided by 12 pipes of a medium scaled stopped flute. This solves = a lot of height problems as well. This would obviously be the bass end of a gedeckt of some description. To play the sort of music that you are interested in a minimum spec might include one the bottom manual an 8' Gedeckt 4' Principal and a 2' Flute. The top manual could have an 8' open flute that shares the bottom notes of the gedeckt. The 4' stop would be a flute which is an extension of the 2' flute on the bottom manual and the = 2' would be a principal from the 4' on the bottom manual. For the pedals you could extend the 8' gedeckt down 12 notes. The pedals would then have a = 16' Gedeckt 8' Gedeckt and 4'Principal. This is a basic three rank organ = which might seem pretty small but you would be surprised at the music it will make. I have made two versions of this kind of organ. It does very well for 16th century music. Sorry to rattle on. Good luck!   Larry Covington   > -----Original Message----- > From: Jess4203@aol.com [SMTP:Jess4203@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:39 AM > To: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Subject: [Residence Organs] Re: New member organ design replies > > Hi, fellow pipe nuts: > > Thanks so much for the warm reception and the replies I have already > received. I hope there will be a few more. I am learing a lot. I have = a > > couple of other questions. > > Several people have suggested that I try to find organs to hear and > examine > so that I'll know more before trying to acquire anything. In particular =   > small house organs that are ep, tracker, or em. Someone suggested he > could > provide the material for a Wicks type house organ (such as those they > built > 1960 to 1980's) if that would suit me, so I am searching for one of = those > to > hear. Since my experience is limited, I could learn a lot from most > installations, but I am not going in the Wurli direction as you know = from > my > first post. I will be traveling from Knoxville to NYC and back October = 5 > to > 14, and if list members can suggest installations that would welcome a > visit > in that time period along or near that route (I-81 thru VA and then I-78 > into > NYC), please email me directly. I may also be making the same trip = again > in > December, around the holidays. I can also travel a few hundred miles = from > > Knoxville on most weekends if there are people in the South who could > stand a > visit. > > I see a lot of references to old builders and their pipework on the = list, > but > I haven't found any source that would tell me what kinds of organs they > built > in what time periods. I'm sure a 1920 Moller (church) organ is a > different > animal from a 1960, but I don't know exactly how. Ditto Hilgren Lane, > Hook > and Hastings, Votey, Johnson, Pomplitz, Estey, etc. Since I'm = interested > in > more classical pipework, I'm interested to know what I might find that > would > suit or be modified to suit vs what to stay away from. I also find the > whole > issue of the history of the pipe organ in America just fascinating = anyway. > > Jardine, Erben, Tannenberg, etc., etc., etc. Can any one suggest > resources > or provide a dissertation on this on list? Am I asking too much? > > Best Regards and TIA, > Roy Kersey