DIYAPASON-L Digest #382 - Saturday, September 8, 2001
 
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: New member organ design replies
  by <Mpmollerorgan@aol.com>
Re: Books on American Builders
  by <Jess4203@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: New member organ design replies
  by <Pipewheezr@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: New member organ design replies From: <Mpmollerorgan@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 00:37:49 EDT     In a message dated 9/7/01 11:50:37 AM, Jess4203@aol.com writes:   > I'm sure a 1920 Moller (church) organ is a different >animal from a 1960, but I don't know exactly how.   The difference is; Quality, materials, voicing, workmanship, care. The Mollers built in the 20s were made of solid wood, good solid thick = stuff, later the quality of both materials and workmanship suffered as the = company was using funds from the next organ deposit to build the organ before it, that was one reason they went bankrupt- they spent the money earmarked for =   organ "B" on organ "A" and when it came time to build organ "C" they had = to use money for organ "D" to build "C" and finish "B"   We have in the shop, pipes being revoiced from a 1960 ish Moller, the = voicer tells me he never had such problems with older pipes as he has with = these, sagging languids and other speech problems related to workmanship and = quality.     > I'm interested to know what I might find that >would suit or be modified to suit vs what to stay away from   We probably can't say on the list what to stay away from, three names do = come to mind as "stay-aways" but I would probably go with pipes from the 30s or =   20s, I also like the Reuter wood #1 scale pedal bourdon pipes, and offsets = I have from around 1930, heavy clear substantial wood and well built chests, =   they were "OOOOH AHHHHH!" when I got them :)   Can't beat one of the older consoles either, my 1929 Moller console is all =   solid walnut, even the kick panel is solid 3/4" thick walnut boards edge glued into a panel while the 1927 Kilgen console I have has a 1/4" thick plywood or some such with veneer kick panel and veneer top etc. Depends on =   the builder I guess, Moller wasn't known for quality but the quality of materials and work in the 30s was better than today in my opinion. Don't forget the depression meant every job was valuable so people tended to do more to keep those jobs.   At work I just finished building a gorgeous set of hard maple 8' Major Diapason pipes C13-C49 with cherry caps, they sure do look great, but I = still can't get over how much raw wood and time it takes to build pipes and mill =   the mouth slopes and caps. I think it took a week plus I had help the = first couple of days initially. We used 5/4 lumber too cut in half on the = bandsaw.   Randall http://members.aol.com/mpmollerorgan/  
(back) Subject: Re: Books on American Builders From: <Jess4203@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 11:39:43 EDT     --part1_b7.13599f28.28cb95bf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi Larry:   Thanks for the recommendation on the Ophse book and others. I have seen = her book but not looked at it closely. Is there actually info on what style = of organs and scales of pipes the various builders used in these books?   This looking phase seems like a lot of fun. The "elbow grease" phase = might be harder. I have a weekend's worth of work to do on my house and then I hope to get to building the shed during the cool fall weather.   Best Regards, Roy   --part1_b7.13599f28.28cb95bf_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hi Larry: <BR> <BR>Thanks for the recommendation on the Ophse book and others. &nbsp;I = have seen her <BR>book but not looked at it closely. &nbsp;Is there actually info on = what style of <BR>organs and scales of pipes the various builders used in these books? <BR> <BR>This looking phase seems like a lot of fun. &nbsp;The "elbow grease" = phase might <BR>be harder. &nbsp;I have a weekend's worth of work to do on my house = and then I <BR>hope to get to building the shed during the cool fall weather. <BR> <BR>Best Regards, <BR>Roy</FONT></HTML>   --part1_b7.13599f28.28cb95bf_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: New member organ design replies From: <Pipewheezr@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 20:07:06 EDT     --part1_b8.1af834ad.28cc0caa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Welcome a new pipe nut (organ-holic).I have an extra Barnes organ book = that is easy to read and understand. The Odsly is good but a lot harder to = follow I think. Roy let me know if you would like it and I will send it to you. Have fun Dennis   --part1_b8.1af834ad.28cc0caa_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Welcome a new pipe nut = (organ-holic).I have an extra Barnes organ book that <BR>is easy to read and understand. The Odsly is good but a lot harder to = follow <BR>I think. <BR> Roy let me know if you would like it and I will send it to you. <BR>Have fun <BR>Dennis </FONT></HTML>   --part1_b8.1af834ad.28cc0caa_boundary--