DIYAPASON-L Digest #394 - Saturday, September 22, 2001
 
Re: [Residence Organs]  Swell Shutters
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@home.com>
Re: Moving EM organ
  by <Jess4203@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Moving EM organ
  by <Tspiggle@aol.com>
RE: [Residence Organs]  Re: Moving EM organ
  by "Fr. Larry Covington" <larry.covington@St-Louis.org>
RE: [Residence Organs]  Re: Moving EM organ
  by "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Moving EM organ
  by "Steven Paul Durham" <sdurham11@home.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Swell Shutters From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@home.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 05:03:51 -0500   Tim Bovard wrote: > * * * > > Hi, Richard! > > If this is standard "Schantz", those are whiffletree swell engines. > If you examine the axle/arm arrangement atop the engine itself, > you should see that at least one of the "arms" (the one connected > to the shade linkage, IIRC) has a couple of setscrews such to be > adjustable on its axle..... That is exactly what I did yesterday with good success. > I submit that it was simply set *just a bit* too close when installed > and adjusted (and that that time was *not* in the depths of humid > Texas summer dog-days, as it is now). These things worked well for 20 years. So, I don't know exactly what precipitated the maladjustment. We have had dry years and wet years, but the shutters worked okay until just a few weeks ago. There is one other nitty-gritty that I have already observed. At least one of the shutters is dragging on its neighboring wood pieces. I think I can adjust the bottom set screws that lift the shutter in its normal position. This affects the return-spring's ability to properly close the shades also, not in the sense that it can't pull the shutters toward the open position because they snapped shut, but the drag is sufficient to prevent them from opening all the way. If only I had a sky hook, I would have a place to stand while working on it. <grins> Seriously, I have to invent a way to reach the errant binding shutter(s), and that's a whole different problem. Appreciatively, F. Richard Burt effarbee@home.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Moving EM organ From: <Jess4203@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 17:23:04 EDT     --part1_16a.14ccea3.28de5b38_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi group:   I want to solicit a bit more input. I have been offered a small organ of = two and a half ranks: a principal, a gedeckt and the half is a Nazard. It is = all unified to give a 16 Bourdon and 8, 4, and 2 of the gedekt and principal, = so I gather it must be EM. The total footprint is 6x9, so the organ will = have to be dismantled to move.   I have three questions. The first is: since moving will cost about $500, = is this a reasonably good deal, suitable for later additions, or should I = wait on something else? Secondly, how would I handle the wiring if it has to = be cut or disconnected? Third, if I added to this setup, I know I would need = EM chests and pipes, but what else would I need to hook up to the present console?   TIA, Roy Kersey   --part1_16a.14ccea3.28de5b38_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hi group: <BR> <BR>I want to solicit a bit more input. &nbsp;I have been offered a small = organ of two and a half ranks: a principal, a gedeckt and the half is a = Nazard. &nbsp;It is all unified to give a 16 Bourdon and 8, 4, and 2 of = the gedekt and principal, so I gather it must be EM. &nbsp;The total = footprint is 6x9, so the organ will have to be dismantled to move. <BR> <BR>I have three questions. &nbsp;The first is: since moving will cost = about $500, is this a reasonably good deal, suitable for later additions, = or should I wait on something else? &nbsp;Secondly, how would I handle the = wiring if it has to be cut or disconnected? &nbsp;Third, if I added to = this setup, I know I would need &nbsp;EM chests and pipes, but what else = would I need to hook up to the present console? <BR> <BR>TIA, <BR>Roy Kersey</FONT></HTML>   --part1_16a.14ccea3.28de5b38_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Moving EM organ From: <Tspiggle@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 19:45:24 EDT   Roy:   The organ you describe must be the little 2-1/2 rank Moller that was made = for several years with a little boxy console and all exposed pipe-work. It has =   electro-pneumatic action. There should be a junction board in the console = and I'd detatch the cable there by unsoldering and unwrappping the wires from = the pins. The cable should already be tied off (laced) so that the wires will come off in order and should be relatively easy to put back.   In order to add anything to this organ you will have to add more contacts under the great keys and probably on top of and at the rear of the swell.   Tom  
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] Re: Moving EM organ From: "Fr. Larry Covington" <larry.covington@St-Louis.org> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 19:19:50 -0500   Hi Roy,. Cutting the cables is usually necessary in order to move the thing. Besides this if it has cotton covered wire it must be rewired anyway. Whether or not it is suitable for additions depends on the key-contacts, the switching system, power supply, blower etc. You will probably want a diode matrix switching system to replace any electro-mechanical system. This can be obtained from Peterson and is a custom job. Cost depends on how many stops etc. Does this organ come = with its own console, power supply, blower etc? How old is it? Who made it? = Is it really what you want. Two ranks and a short compass Nasard can get old fast! I guess what I am saying is that I don't know enough about what is offered to give any constructive advice. More info would help.   Larry   > -----Original Message----- > From: Jess4203@aol.com [SMTP:Jess4203@aol.com] > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 4:23 PM > To: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Subject: [Residence Organs] Re: Moving EM organ > > Hi group: > > I want to solicit a bit more input. I have been offered a small organ = of > two and a half ranks: a principal, a gedeckt and the half is a Nazard. = It > is all unified to give a 16 Bourdon and 8, 4, and 2 of the gedekt and > principal, so I gather it must be EM. The total footprint is 6x9, so = the > organ will have to be dismantled to move. > > I have three questions. The first is: since moving will cost about = $500, > is this a reasonably good deal, suitable for later additions, or should = I > wait on something else? Secondly, how would I handle the wiring if it = has > to be cut or disconnected? Third, if I added to this setup, I know I > would need EM chests and pipes, but what else would I need to hook up = to > the present console? > > TIA, > Roy Kersey  
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] Re: Moving EM organ From: "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 17:57:16 -0700   You're correct, if you're talking about 2-1/2 straight ranks. With a little bit of judicious unification, that 2-1/2 ranks can make a great little practice organ. Of course, with a couple more ranks, you can make = a great little theatre organ... ;-)   At 07:19 PM 9/22/01 -0500, Fr. Larry Covington wrote: >Two ranks and a short compass Nasard can get old >fast!       Regards, Bob, in beautiful Lake County, California, USA NAWCC 140818 http://www.cuckoobob.com alternate mailto:cuckoobob@eudoramail.com    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Moving EM organ From: "Steven Paul Durham" <sdurham11@home.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 21:09:09 -0700   Roy:   It wouldn't be hard to add to this organ at a latter date. It will, however, require lots of work and money. If the current blower wouldn't handle any more than the 2.5 ranks then you'd be looking at the tremendous expense of purchasing a new blower. The small silent blowers are almost impossible to find used and cost at least $1500.00.   You'd also would have to replace and/or add to the relay not to mention the cost of pipe and chest work. You might consider looking for a bigger organ that is already complete. There have, in the past, been some small 4 to 6 rank Wicks organs on www.keyboardtrader.com that went for $1000.00 to $1500.00. And that is complete and ready to go!!!   On my own organ project, I spent more than I should have any piecing it together from various sources. I would have saved myself time and money if I had waited for a complete organ of six ranks.   Best Regards,   Steven Durham sdurham11@home.com Portland, OR   ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jess4203@aol.com> To: <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 2:23 PM Subject: [Residence Organs] Re: Moving EM organ     Hi group:   I want to solicit a bit more input. I have been offered a small organ of two and a half ranks: a principal, a gedeckt and the half is a Nazard. It is all unified to give a 16 Bourdon and 8, 4, and 2 of the gedekt and principal, so I gather it must be EM. The total footprint is 6x9, so the organ will have to be dismantled to move.   I have three questions. The first is: since moving will cost about $500, is this a reasonably good deal, suitable for later additions, or should I wait on something else? Secondly, how would I handle the wiring if it has to be cut or disconnected? Third, if I added to this setup, I know I would need EM chests and pipes, but what else would I need to hook up to the present console?   TIA, Roy Kersey