DIYAPASON-L Digest #612 - Thursday, August 1, 2002
 
Re: [Residence Organs]  Milne Book:  Organ Plans
  by "Tony Newnham" <organist@tsnp.fsnet.co.uk>
DIY Organ building books
  by "Tony Newnham" <organist@tsnp.fsnet.co.uk>
Organ books
  by <Pipewheezr@aol.com>
Guesstimating weight of a pipe organ
  by "randy newman" <rnewman@shop.rutgers.edu>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Guesstimating weight of a pipe organ
  by "Jimmy" <jrbaird@erols.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Milne Book: Organ Plans From: "Tony Newnham" <organist@tsnp.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:30:35 +0100   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0066_01C23946.788A03C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Re: [Residence Organs] sticky situationHi   Milne's specification as described is:-   Great C-a3 58 notes Open Diap. Stopped Wood Bass) 8 Stopped Diap 8 Principal 4   Swell C-a3 Lieblich Gedackt 8 Gamba (TC) 8 Gemshorn 4   Pedal (C-f) 30 Bourdon 16   In other words a typical small English organ of the late 19th/early 20th = =3D centuries.   For what it's worth, my thoughts (based on playing a number of broadly =3D similar instruments, and a handful of modern small organs, including a =3D Peter Collins EOS series in a friend's home) Would be to swap the Gt =3D Open for a 15th or 2ft flute, and think carefully about the swell, =3D depending on what type of music you favour!   Hope this is of interest.   Every Blessing   Tony ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Carl Dodrill=3D20 To: Residence Organ List=3D20 Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:10 PM Subject: [Residence Organs] Milne Book: Organ Plans     Tony,   Does Milne in the book on building a small two manual organ present a = =3D preferred set of stops for such an organ? This would interest me and =3D perhaps others on this list. Thank you.   Carl Dodrill Pipe Organ Foundation 4488 West Mercer Way Mercer Island WA 98040 Phone: (206) 236-3492 Fax: (425) 696-0082 e-mail: carl@dodrill.net=3D20       ------=3D_NextPart_000_0066_01C23946.788A03C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Re: [Residence Organs] sticky situation</TITLE> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <STYLE type=3D3Dtext/css>BLOCKQUOTE { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } DL { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } UL { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } OL { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } LI { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } </STYLE>   <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Milne's specification as = described=3D20 is:-</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Great C-a3 58 notes</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Open Diap. Stopped Wood Bass) =3D 8</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Stopped=3D20 Diap&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= =3D sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs= =3D p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 8</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20 size=3D3D2>Principal&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&= =3D nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n= =3D bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= =3D sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;4</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Swell C-a3</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Lieblich=3D20 Gedackt&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= =3D &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = =3D   8</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Gamba=3D20 (TC)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= =3D sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs= =3D p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 8</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20 size=3D3D2>Gemshorn&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n= =3D bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=3D sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 4</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Pedal (C-f) 30</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20 size=3D3D2>Bourdon&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb= =3D sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 16</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>In other words a typical small = English =3D organ of the=3D20 late 19th/early 20th centuries.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>For what it's worth, my thoughts = (based =3D on playing=3D20 a number of broadly similar instruments, and a handful of modern small =3D organs,=3D20 including a Peter Collins EOS series in a friend's home) Would be to =3D swap the Gt=3D20 Open for a 15th or 2ft flute, and think carefully about the swell, =3D depending on=3D20 what type of music you favour!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hope this is of = interest.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Every Blessing</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tony</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3Dcarl@dodrill.net href=3D3D"mailto:carl@dodrill.net">Carl = =3D Dodrill</A>=3D20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3DDIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org">Residence Organ List</A> =3D </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, 2002 = =3D 2:10=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Residence Organs] =3D Milne Book:=3D20 Organ Plans</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D750510713-31072002><FONT face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#0000ff=3D20 size=3D3D2>Tony,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D750510713-31072002><FONT face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#0000ff=3D20 size=3D3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D750510713-31072002><FONT face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#0000ff size=3D3D2>Does=3D20 Milne in the book on building a small two manual organ present a =3D preferred set=3D20 of stops for such an organ?&nbsp; This would interest me and perhaps =3D others on=3D20 this list.&nbsp; Thank you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D750510713-31072002><FONT face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#0000ff=3D20 size=3D3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D750510713-31072002> <P><FONT size=3D3D2>Carl Dodrill<BR>Pipe Organ Foundation<BR>4488 West = =3D Mercer=3D20 Way<BR>Mercer Island WA 98040<BR>Phone:&nbsp; (206) =3D 236-3492<BR>Fax:&nbsp;=3D20 (425) 696-0082<BR>e-mail:&nbsp; <A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:carl@dodrill.net">carl@dodrill.net</A> =3D </FONT></P></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr style=3D3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><FONT = face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#0000ff=3D20 size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0066_01C23946.788A03C0--    
(back) Subject: DIY Organ building books From: "Tony Newnham" <organist@tsnp.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:40:32 +0100   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0074_01C23947.DC9049A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hi   Another book that I have in my collection is "Modern Organ Building" by = =3D W & T Lewis.(3rd edition 1949). This deals with somewhat larger =3D instruments, and majors on pneumatic action   Whilst not really DIY - unless you're very ambitious - is Brian Hirst's = =3D "Just a Box of Whistles" ISBN 0-9540697-0-6. Brian was a pipemaker with = =3D the firm of Conacher. The book (49 pages) describes something of the =3D pipe maker's art, although probably not enough for the amateur to =3D produce good results without a lot of practice!   It's published by Front Rank Books, 110 Fleetwood Road, Thornton =3D Cleveleys, Lancashire, FY5 1RD www.organpipes.yorks.net Cost in UK =3D about =3DA310.   There have also been occasional articles in "The Organ" magazine over =3D the years about self-build projects.   Trust this is of interest.   Every Blessing   Tony   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0074_01C23947.DC9049A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Another book that I have in my =3D collection is=3D20 "Modern Organ Building" by W &amp; T Lewis.(3rd edition 1949).&nbsp; =3D This deals=3D20 with somewhat larger instruments, and majors on pneumatic =3D action</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Whilst not really DIY - unless you're = =3D very=3D20 ambitious - is Brian Hirst's "Just a Box of Whistles" ISBN =3D 0-9540697-0-6.&nbsp;=3D20 Brian was a pipemaker with the firm of Conacher.&nbsp; The book (49 =3D pages)=3D20 describes something of the pipe maker's art, although probably not =3D enough for=3D20 the amateur to produce good results without a lot of =3D practice!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It's published by Front Rank Books, = 110 =3D Fleetwood=3D20 Road, Thornton Cleveleys, Lancashire, FY5 1RD <A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.organpipes.yorks.net">www.organpipes.yorks.net</A>&nbs= =3D p; Cost=3D20 in UK about =3DA310.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>There have also been occasional =3D articles in "The=3D20 Organ" magazine over the years about self-build projects.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Trust this is of = interest.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Every Blessing</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tony</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0074_01C23947.DC9049A0--    
(back) Subject: Organ books From: <Pipewheezr@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:30:41 EDT   Hi, Abe books has a long list of organ building books on there website, Abebooks.com. Give it a look. Dennis  
(back) Subject: Guesstimating weight of a pipe organ From: "randy newman" <rnewman@shop.rutgers.edu> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 11:03:14 -0400     A quick qustion for you experienced pipe organ folk out there. Is there a quick and easy way to figure out the approximate weight of a certain sized pipe organ? I am about to start installing my 8 rank moller organ (which will eventually have some additions) and want to make sure that the existing floor can handle the weight. i know that 8 ranks doesn't seem like much but it is a fairly large organ with 4 16' ers. I really just need a rough figure. Any ideas welcome. Thanks.     -Randy      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Guesstimating weight of a pipe organ From: "Jimmy" <jrbaird@erols.com> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 22:25:21 -0400   I used to have a 6 rank Moller. A rough guess would be 2 tons.   Jimmy     randy newman wrote: > > A quick qustion for you experienced pipe organ folk out there. Is there = a > quick and easy way to figure out the approximate weight of a certain = sized > pipe organ? I am about to start installing my 8 rank moller organ (which > will eventually have some additions) and want to make sure that the > existing floor can handle the weight. i know that 8 ranks doesn't seem > like much but it is a fairly large organ with 4 16' ers. I really just > need a rough figure. Any ideas welcome. Thanks. > > -Randy