DIYAPASON-L Digest #695 - Sunday, December 1, 2002
 
Maas Rowe Chimes
  by "John Haskey" <johnh@haskey.net>
RE: [Residence Organs]  Maas Rowe Chimes
  by "ATOS" <atos@stirlingprop.com>
RE: [Residence Organs]  Maas Rowe Chimes
  by "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net>
RE: [Residence Organs]  Maas Rowe Chimes
  by "John Haskey" <johnh@haskey.net>
RE: [Residence Organs]  Maas Rowe Chimes
  by "John Haskey" <johnh@haskey.net>
Maas Rowe Chimes
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Maas Rowe Chimes
  by "John Haskey" <johnh@haskey.net>
 

(back) Subject: Maas Rowe Chimes From: "John Haskey" <johnh@haskey.net> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 21:45:34 -0800 (PST)     Greetings,   I acquired an old set of Maas-Rowe chimes and would like some guidance on hooking them up. Also, I seem to be missing one of the dampers. Hopefully these aren't made of unobtainium. Any tips on where to find a replacement? Are there any good websites describing how these units work? Thanks.   ---john.      
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] Maas Rowe Chimes From: "ATOS" <atos@stirlingprop.com> Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 07:44:57 -0600   I would be interested in knowing if any of your Maas-Rowe chime tubes are suffering from longitudal splits in the metal. I have run across several sets of these over the last few years, and all of them seem to have at = least some tubes that are split down the sides of the tube from what looks like metal fatigue. Of course, when this happens, the tubes "clunk" instead of ringing when struck.   As for the damper, the only sets I have seen are pneumatically operated types from theatre organs. The dampers are usually a red felt covered = wooden device that looks a lot like a golf tee at maybe two times the size. That should be pretty easy to whittle a replacement for, so I am assuming you have some other type of damper.   -----Original Message----- From: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org [mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of John Haskey Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 11:46 PM To: Residence Organ List Subject: [Residence Organs] Maas Rowe Chimes       Greetings,   I acquired an old set of Maas-Rowe chimes and would like some guidance on hooking them up. Also, I seem to be missing one of the dampers. Hopefully these aren't made of unobtainium. Any tips on where to find a replacement? Are there any good websites describing how these units work? Thanks.   ---john.       DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own Residence Pipe Organs. HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] Maas Rowe Chimes From: "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 08:26:35 -0800   I used to have a set of these, and the action was electro-mechanical, both for the chime and for the damper. The chime was struck by a solonoid of the typical doorbell-type straight strike, and the damper was a lead 'doughnut' disc faced with felt and hung from a wire and controlled by a lever-type magnet similar to a Direct-Electric magnet. A little "ASCII Art", which will also require a little imagination: ___ | | | | | | --- --------o o ^ | | | | | | |MMMMMMMMM| xxxxxxxxxxx   The weight of the lead doughnut pushes the felt into the top of the chime tube which causes a rapid, but not instantaneous, ceasation of the tone. The chime was hung from a short loop of cord, and it passed through the hole in the doughnut and hung from a screwhead inside the inverted "V" damper hanger.   At 07:44 AM 12/1/02 -0600, ATOS wrote: >I would be interested in knowing if any of your Maas-Rowe chime tubes are >suffering from longitudal splits in the metal. I have run across several >sets of these over the last few years, and all of them seem to have at = least >some tubes that are split down the sides of the tube from what looks like >metal fatigue. Of course, when this happens, the tubes "clunk" instead of >ringing when struck. > >As for the damper, the only sets I have seen are pneumatically operated >types from theatre organs. The dampers are usually a red felt covered = wooden >device that looks a lot like a golf tee at maybe two times the size. That >should be pretty easy to whittle a replacement for, so I am assuming you >have some other type of damper. > >-----Original Message----- >From: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org [mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org]On >Behalf Of John Haskey >Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 11:46 PM >To: Residence Organ List >Subject: [Residence Organs] Maas Rowe Chimes > > > >Greetings, > > I acquired an old set of Maas-Rowe chimes and would like some >guidance on hooking them up. Also, I seem to be missing one of the >dampers. Hopefully these aren't made of unobtainium. Any tips on where >to find a replacement? Are there any good websites describing how these >units work? Thanks. > > ---john. > > > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > > > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > >   Regards, Bob, in beautiful Lake County, California, USA http://home.jps.net/~rrloesch/index.htm   Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professional engineers built the Titanic.      
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] Maas Rowe Chimes From: "John Haskey" <johnh@haskey.net> Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:33:16 -0800 (PST)       On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, ATOS wrote:   > I would be interested in knowing if any of your Maas-Rowe chime tubes = are > suffering from longitudal splits in the metal.   No cracks or splits in the chime tube. They could stand to be refinished though and I'm seeking info on that...   > As for the damper, the only sets I have seen are pneumatically operated > types from theatre organs. The dampers are usually a red felt covered = wooden > device that looks a lot like a golf tee at maybe two times the size. = That > should be pretty easy to whittle a replacement for, so I am assuming you > have some other type of damper.   These chimes appear to be struck via a solenoid driven striker. It looks like at the time of the strike the damper is also raised by a solenoid. The damper itself is a disk of felt backed by a metal disk. A perpendicular shaft in the center extends up into the coil of the solenoid.   ---john.    
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] Maas Rowe Chimes From: "John Haskey" <johnh@haskey.net> Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:35:51 -0800 (PST)       On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Bob Loesch wrote:   > I used to have a set of these, and the action was electro-mechanical, = both > for the chime and for the damper. > The chime was struck by a solonoid of the typical doorbell-type straight > strike, and the damper was a lead 'doughnut' disc faced with felt and = hung > from a wire and controlled by a lever-type magnet similar to a > Direct-Electric magnet. A little "ASCII Art", which will also require a > little imagination: > ___ > | | > | | | > | --- > --------o > o > ^ > | | > | | > | | > |MMMMMMMMM| > xxxxxxxxxxx >   The dampers on my set of chimes appear to be activted via a solenoid. The dampers rest on the tops of the chime tubes and are (apparently) lifted at the time the chime is struck.   I've located a reference to the Mass-Rowe company on the web. I hope to call them in the coming week.   ---john.      
(back) Subject: Maas Rowe Chimes From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 15:25:09 -0600   John Haskey wrote: > No cracks or splits in the chime tube. They could stand to be = refinished > though and I'm seeking info on that...   What are you wanting to know? > These chimes appear to be struck via a solenoid driven striker. It = looks > like at the time of the strike the damper is also raised by a solenoid. > The damper itself is a disk of felt backed by a metal disk. A > perpendicular shaft in the center extends up into the coil of the > solenoid.   Are your having problems with these? The best thing to do is CAREFULLY remove the solenoid plungers and clean them with rubbing alcohol, and clean the bores with Q-Tips soaked in rubbing alcohol. Be sure that ALL residue is removed. The carefully re-assemble the springs to them, and they should work fine.   If you're having other problems, there are parts available from other vendors, but the Maas-Rowe Company, as such, is long out of business. Faithfully,   G.A. -- Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Pipe Organ Builders 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX mailto:arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL mailto:arp@starband.net SHOP SATELLITE EMAIL mailto:arpschneider@starband.net HOME OFFICE EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com WEB PAGE URL    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Maas Rowe Chimes From: "John Haskey" <johnh@haskey.net> Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 13:57:11 -0800 (PST)       On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Richard Schneider wrote:   > John Haskey wrote: > > > No cracks or splits in the chime tube. They could stand to be = refinished > > though and I'm seeking info on that... > > What are you wanting to know?   Is it feasible to refinish the chime tubes? Whatever they are coated in has started to flake off in spots and storage has not been kind to them.B   > > > These chimes appear to be struck via a solenoid driven striker. It = looks > > like at the time of the strike the damper is also raised by a = solenoid. > > The damper itself is a disk of felt backed by a metal disk. A > > perpendicular shaft in the center extends up into the coil of the > > solenoid. > > Are your having problems with these? The best thing to do is CAREFULLY > remove the solenoid plungers and clean them with rubbing alcohol, and > clean the bores with Q-Tips soaked in rubbing alcohol. Be sure that ALL > residue is removed. The carefully re-assemble the springs to them, and > they should work fine.   My first message on the topic stated that I am missing one of the dampers and am also seeking info on how to hook them up (electrically).   > > If you're having other problems, there are parts available from other > vendors, but the Maas-Rowe Company, as such, is long out of business. >   I found a reference to Maas-Rowe on the internet. Perhaps someone has taken over the name.   Thanks for the additional info and tips on cleaning the damper mechanism.   ---john.