DIYAPASON-L Digest #497 - Saturday, January 19, 2002
 
Re: Haskelled Diapason
  by <Jess4203@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Haskelled Diapason
  by "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Haskelled Diapason
  by "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net>
Cleaning up...
  by "Kelvin Smith" <KelvinSmith@UntraveledRoad.com>
Daniel
  by "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Haskelled Diapason From: <Jess4203@aol.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 09:11:28 EST   Hi Craig et al.: Regarding the Haskelled Diapasons you seek, if you have the 8 foot octave = to the rank, you might want to consider making your own. There are a = number of posts on Haskelled ranks on piporg-L about how they are = designed. Basically all you need is a tube of the right length that is = half the cross sectional area of the pipe you are cutting. I believe = there is a formula for the maximum amount you can cut off, it is not = exactly half of the pipe, a little less. The eight footer can be cut to = something like five feet. Then you need a tunjing collar that allows you = to move the tube up and down. This is accomplished with a collar that is = cut on a slant that is butted up against a "button" soldered on the = outside of the pipe to keep it from sliding down too far. The tube also = needs three spacers to keep it centered in the pipe. The scale of the = pipe does not need to be changed, but it will need beards to help with the = speech. That's about it. Might be easier than finding the proper rank one on this list has done it?   Regards, Roy Kersey (who has two Estey Haskells)  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Haskelled Diapason From: "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 10:08:10 -0500   Yes, I have built 8 such "Haskelled" pipes. I extended a 16' "Haskelled" (12 pipes) Violone upward for my residence organ.   Roy Kersey gives the details; the "inner tubes" that are needed can be a old rank of zinc diapasons, flutes, or whatever. Once you find a pipe = that is 0.707 times the diameter of your original pipe, the others in the = inner and outer ranks usually match up pretty well. Cut off the toe and mouth = of the "inner tubes" and solder caps on the top; then proceed as Roy said. Ed, in Maine   ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jess4203@aol.com> To: <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 9:11 AM Subject: [Residence Organs] Re: Haskelled Diapason     > Hi Craig et al.: > Regarding the Haskelled Diapasons you seek, if you have the 8 foot = octave to the rank, you might want to consider making your own. There are a = number of posts on Haskelled ranks on piporg-L about how they are designed. Basically all you need is a tube of the right length that is half the = cross sectional area of the pipe you are cutting. I believe there is a formula for the maximum amount you can cut off, it is not exactly half of the = pipe, a little less. The eight footer can be cut to something like five feet. Then you need a tunjing collar that allows you to move the tube up and = down. This is accomplished with a collar that is cut on a slant that is butted = up against a "button" soldered on the outside of the pipe to keep it from sliding down too far. The tube also needs three spacers to keep it = centered in the pipe. The scale of the pipe does not need to be changed, but it = will need beards to help with the speech. That's about it. Might be easier = than finding the proper rank > one on this list has done it? > > Regards, Roy Kersey (who has two Estey Haskells)      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Haskelled Diapason From: "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 07:10:04 -0800   I have SEEN it done (typical American's response: "I haven't actually done it, but I've seen the video..." ;-) but I understand that the scale of the 'Haskelled' pipes needs to be larger then normal, or the volume/tone will be proportionally less, hence cutting down the original basses might not work well. That said, a friend of mine made a set for his theatre organ in his home which were quite successful and took up far less = overhead than the full-length originals, a large-scaled Robert Morton Diapason Phonon. I also understand that schedule 40 PVC will make effective = Haskell tubes if the diameter is close to correct. Ditto galvanized rain downspout, if the joint be soldered. An old discarded Dulciana's zinc basses could be used, too. Does anyone else have any thoughts?   At 09:11 AM 1/19/02 EST, Jess4203@aol.com wrote: >Hi Craig et al.: >Regarding the Haskelled Diapasons you seek, if you have the 8 foot octave to the rank, you might want to consider making your own. There are a number of posts on Haskelled ranks on piporg-L about how they are = designed. Basically all you need is a tube of the right length that is half the cross sectional area of the pipe you are cutting. I believe there is a formula for the maximum amount you can cut off, it is not exactly half of the pipe, a little less. The eight footer can be cut to something like five feet. Then you need a tunjing collar that allows you to move the = tube up and down. This is accomplished with a collar that is cut on a slant that is butted up against a "button" soldered on the outside of the pipe = to keep it from sliding down too far. The tube also needs three spacers to keep it centered in the pipe. The scale of the pipe does not need to be changed, but it will need beards to help with the speech. That's about = it. Might be easier than finding the proper rank >one on this list has done it? > >Regards, >Roy Kersey (who has two Estey Haskells) > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > >   Regards, Bob, in beautiful Lake County, California, USA http://home.jps.net/~rrloesch/index.htm    
(back) Subject: Cleaning up... From: "Kelvin Smith" <KelvinSmith@UntraveledRoad.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 11:26:44 -0700   Hi,   I have some junk that is cluttering up the place which could be cluttering up your place :) for the cost of postage.   Two 61 note switches by Moller in good condition. Surely someone can use = these.   Some flex windlines 4" and 6" 3-6 feet long.   The solenoid from a Klann combination action (a big thing) which I believe works fine.   I'm going to get rid of the flex windline real soon one way or another. I remember buying some of that stuff and it is surely worth the shipping cost. I use pvc for everything now.   Kelvin      
(back) Subject: Daniel From: "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 23:25:12 -0400   I am trying to find out what Company made my Vox Humana all I know on the low CC pipe is 2852 and the year 1930 any idea what company had that many Organs built by 1930? Please help if you have any idea:-) sincerely Daniel