DIYAPASON-L Digest #605 - Wednesday, July 24, 2002
 
Gasket Patterns
  by "Robert W. Taylor" <rtaylor@sockets.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Gasket Patterns
  by "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Gasket Patterns
  by "Larry Chace" <RLC1@etnainstruments.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Gasket Patterns
  by <Pipewheezr@aol.com>
RE:Residence Organ relays needed
  by <lcollins@premiermeansbusiness.com>
New Guy on the List
  by <lcollins@premiermeansbusiness.com>
RE: [Residence Organs]  climate control
  by "STEVE PITTS" <steve.pitts@adtran.com>
RE: [Residence Organs]  climate control
  by "Dan Emery" <danemery@yahoo.ca>
Re: New Guy on the List/Wicks opus number
  by <TheGluePot@aol.com>
swell box door
  by "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net>
 

(back) Subject: Gasket Patterns From: "Robert W. Taylor" <rtaylor@sockets.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:14:27 -0500   Hi Gang,   Soon I will be replacing all the chest gaskets. I thought some of you = more experienced types might have some good ideas for making a gasket pattern. These are Aeolian ventil chests, and many of the individual stop "shelves" have the same hole pattern. In my case, some gaskets may be repeated as many as ten times.   The chromatic chest has eight ranks and each "shelf" is in one piece. The Diatonic chest has fourteen ranks with each "shelf" split into two equal halves, so you can see there will a lot of identical hole patterns.   My thought is to make a pattern by boring holes in a thin wood or aluminum strip, and lay the pattern on the gasket, and punch through the bored holes. This punching would be done on the bench. The gasket would then be glued into position.   Comments?   Bob Taylor      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Gasket Patterns From: "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:30:44 -0500   I have had good luck with using masking tape to make a template...I put = the tape on the chest to get the hole alignment and then use the tape on the gasket material to transfer the template...in that way the leather or whatever does not get stretched out of shape and can be easily punched.   jch     At 09:14 AM 7/24/02 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Gang, > >Soon I will be replacing all the chest gaskets. I thought some of you = more >experienced types might have some good ideas for making a gasket pattern. >These are Aeolian ventil chests, and many of the individual stop = "shelves" >have the same hole pattern. In my case, some gaskets may be repeated as >many as ten times. > >The chromatic chest has eight ranks and each "shelf" is in one piece. = The >Diatonic chest has fourteen ranks with each "shelf" split into two equal >halves, so you can see there will a lot of identical hole patterns. > >My thought is to make a pattern by boring holes in a thin wood or = aluminum >strip, and lay the pattern on the gasket, and punch through the bored >holes. This punching would be done on the bench. The gasket would then = be >glued into position. > >Comments? > >Bob Taylor > > > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Gasket Patterns From: "Larry Chace" <RLC1@etnainstruments.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:40:37 -0400   Bob Taylor asked about chest gaskets. I'd guess that scrap strips of thin plywood (Luan?) might work well (except for the splintering!). Arch punches do a good job, and they are available from Organ Supply (and probably elsewhere). I've tried using "sharpened" pieces of pipe (steel, copper, etc.), but they always seemed to get dull and to cut rather = poorly.   Bob, what are you using for gaskets? Historic materials have been = blotting paper (!), cork, and packing leather. More modern materials, such as neoprene sheeting, have been tried, but some of them relax after a while and then can't hold back the wind (even at low pressures). My chests will use packing leather (from Columbia Organ Leathers, but Organ Supply and Leather Supply House also offer it).   Here are some URLs:   http://www.leathersupplyhouse.com   http://www.columbiaorgan.com   http://www.organsupply.com     Happy chest work!   Larry Chace          
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Gasket Patterns From: <Pipewheezr@aol.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:50:52 EDT   Hi organuts, cutting the holes sounds like you have that nailed down, to = cut the strips you can go to a saddlery and by a strip cutter. It cuts up to 5 = or 6 inch wide strips, it works relay slick. I have made straight leather gaskets so fast, I hated cutting on glass or what ever I could find at the =   time. You just need a large flat surface( dinner table:) )and lay out the leather, measure a starter slit and then you pull the handle along the = edge of the leather. You have to have one straight edge to start of coarse. = Works relay slick! Have fun Dennis  
(back) Subject: RE:Residence Organ relays needed From: <lcollins@premiermeansbusiness.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:39:30 -0500   In response to Drew's request, I might have something interesting for you. I have the relays from a Wicks 2/6 .I removed the organ from a church in April. I will need to look at the relay assembly again to tell exactly how many relays etc. I can do so over this next weekend if you find this set potentially useful. It is a direct electric action. There were stops as follows: Sw.- 9 ,Gt.- 7, Ped.-5. If my memory is right, there are relays = of 61 contacts for each manual stop, 32 for each pedal stop, and maybe an extra or so due to changes over the years to the organ. The relays are in wooden boxes that were in the console per usual Wicks design for small organs. Wiring has been clipped from the terminals, so the relays should = be ready to go with some terminal cleanup and new wiring attached. They look OK but have not been tested.   Price ? Pretty darn cheap. Am building an electronic system to replace the mechanical. Maybe you got some trading stuff I'd be interested in? We'll work out something equitable if you're interested.   Best wishes. Lloyd Collins College Mound, MO.                
(back) Subject: New Guy on the List From: <lcollins@premiermeansbusiness.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:30:40 -0500   Hi List Folks   My name is Lloyd Collins. I subscribed to the list a few weeks ago after I found it on a Google search. What a great group is here ! Didn't know = there were so many out there who shared my affliction. I live out in the country in Missouri about 50 miles north of Columbia,Mo.   I have loved organs since I started piano lessons at age 6. Wanted an = organ then, but my parents thought I'd be better off (and probably disturb household tranquility less) if I started on the piano. Took lessons for many years but drifted away from regular practice during college and subsequent jobs in broadcast engineering. In the last few years I have gotten serious about my musical hobby again. Started out with some of the digital keyboards---which were OK, but this year I was offered a Wicks 2/6 that was being replaced in a nearby church. As it would happen, we had = just built a new house (doing much of the work ourselves) and there is an unfinished room that is pretty large above the garage that can be used for the organ with some simple additions for floor strengthening and some not-so-simple changes to the air conditioning system !   Now I'm in the process of finishing the room while the organ components wait in storage (translate piles of stuff ) all over the rest of the = place. The Wicks was originally installed in a theater somewhere, but no one = seems to remember where, then moved to the church in 1938. It was played regularly until late 2001 when the church bought a new Rodgers digital. I will communicate more of the details as the project goes along and will = try to get some pictures along the way to share.   Work is very busy now, and there are the summer duties on our mini-farm, = so I do not get to work on the project as much as I'd like. I'd hoped to have the organ playing by the end of the year. Not sure that will be possible. There is a lot left to do to the room. Need to do some work on the windchests and re-leather the regulator and build the electronic relay and/or MIDI controller, etc, etc. This WILL be fun !   That's all for now. I look forward to visiting with all of you on the = list.   Best wishes to all of you and yours,   Lloyd Collins College Mound, Mo.                
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] climate control From: "STEVE PITTS" <steve.pitts@adtran.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:53:50 -0500       I have finally found a home for my 3 manual/19 rank Kimbal/Estey organ = that Dave McClellan, Dave Heimer and I dismantled and removed from OLPH in = Carrolton GA last August. I just recently purchased a property in Ardmore = TN which has a modernized barn containing 2 2car garages, an upstairs = apartment and a 30 X 25 studio with 10 ft high ceilings. The studio now = contains the console and all the pipework for the organ and as many = reservoirs as I can cram in there. The organ is mostly DE action with a = electromechanical relay.Among all the many issues, I am concerned about = climate control as there exists no central air and heat in the building. = To start with, I have installed a 24000 BTU window unit which cools the 25 = X 30 studio just fine which I usually run only on weekends and evenings.I = hate to run the window AC 24/7/365 due to the electric bill. I have = noticed the humidity seems to stay at about 70%, temp at about 78 although = if I open the garage door for a while, the humidity will clim  
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] climate control From: "Dan Emery" <danemery@yahoo.ca> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:18:20 -0400 (EDT)   --0-1186111548-1027527500=3D:24526 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii     There is some information at http://www.dodington.com/temperature.html = that may be useful. STEVE PITTS <steve.pitts@adtran.com> wrote:   I have finally found a home for my 3 manual/19 rank Kimbal/Estey organ = that Dave McClellan, Dave Heimer and I dismantled and removed from OLPH in = Carrolton GA last August. I just recently purchased a property in Ardmore = TN which has a modernized barn containing 2 2car garages, an upstairs = apartment and a 30 X 25 studio with 10 ft high ceilings. The studio now = contains the console and all the pipework for the organ and as many = reservoirs as I can cram in there. The organ is mostly DE action with a = electromechanical relay.Among all the many issues, I am concerned about = climate control as there exists no central air and heat in the building. = To start with, I have installed a 24000 BTU window unit which cools the 25 = X 30 studio just fine which I usually run only on weekends and evenings.I = hate to run the window AC 24/7/365 due to the electric bill. I have = noticed the humidity seems to stay at about 70%, temp at about 78 although = if I open the garage door for a while, the humidity will clim   DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own Residence Pipe Organs. HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org       --------------------------------- Post your ad for free now! Yahoo! Canada Personals   --0-1186111548-1027527500=3D:24526 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii   <P> There is some information at <A = href=3D"http://www.dodington.com/temperature.html">http://www.dodington.com= /temperature.html</A> that may be useful. <P>&nbsp; <B><I>STEVE PITTS &lt;steve.pitts@adtran.com&gt;</I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: = #1010ff 2px solid"><BR><BR>I have finally found a home for my 3 manual/19 = rank Kimbal/Estey organ that Dave McClellan, Dave Heimer and I dismantled = and removed from OLPH in Carrolton GA last August. I just recently = purchased a property in Ardmore TN which has a modernized barn containing = 2 2car garages, an upstairs apartment and a 30 X 25 studio with 10 ft high = ceilings. The studio now contains the console and all the pipework for the = organ and as many reservoirs as I can cram in there. The organ is mostly = DE action with a electromechanical relay.Among all the many issues, I am = concerned about climate control as there exists no central air and heat in = the building. To start with, I have installed a 24000 BTU window unit = which cools the 25 X 30 studio just fine which I usually run only on = weekends and evenings.I hate to run the window AC 24/7/365 due to the = electric bill. I have noticed the humidity seems to stay at ab --0-1186111548-1027527500=3D:24526--  
(back) Subject: Re: New Guy on the List/Wicks opus number From: <TheGluePot@aol.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:01:24 EDT     --part1_ae.2a6d173a.2a703764_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Lloyd, welcome to the list. Since you have a Wicks and they are still in business, you might find out about the pedigry of your instrument by = sending them the opus number. I don't know where Wicks put their numbers but the = low 8' CC pipes of many brands had the opus numbers stamped on as did the = relays or console and sometimes the chests. This is if you are interested in = where it was originally installed.   Best wishes,   Al Sefl   --part1_ae.2a6d173a.2a703764_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Lloyd, welcome to the list.&nbsp; Since you have = a Wicks and they are still in business, you might find out about the = pedigry of your instrument by sending them the opus number.&nbsp; I don't = know where Wicks put their numbers but the low 8' CC pipes of many brands = had the opus numbers stamped on as did the relays or console and sometimes = the chests.&nbsp; This is if you are interested in where it was originally = installed.<BR> <BR> Best wishes,<BR> <BR> Al Sefl<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_ae.2a6d173a.2a703764_boundary--  
(back) Subject: swell box door From: "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:12:33 -0500   Hi all,   I am soon to have a swell box built in my basement. I have the shades and will soon purchase the rest of the needed materials. One question I have concerns the door. I have room only for an 18" door and am naturally = looking at the pre-hung units found at Menard's. For the best sound proofing = should I get a hollow core door and perhaps attempt to fill it with some form of insulation or should I just spend the extra and get a solid wood = door??????   Looking forward to updating my very old web site before the year is out ! <G>   Thanks,   Robert Eversman Blue Mounds, WI