DIYAPASON-L Digest #611 - Wednesday, July 31, 2002
 
Re: [Residence Organs]  Fw: Organ Plans
  by "Tony Newnham" <organist@tsnp.fsnet.co.uk>
Milne Book:  Organ Plans
  by "Carl Dodrill" <carl@dodrill.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Milne Book:  Organ Plans
  by "Steven" <sdurham11@attbi.com>
Re: Milne Book:  Organ Plans
  by "Larry Chace" <RLC1@etnainstruments.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Milne Book:  Organ Plans
  by <Pipewheezr@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Fw: Organ Plans From: "Tony Newnham" <organist@tsnp.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:15:27 +0100   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0051_01C23872.CF787380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Re: [Residence Organs] sticky situationHi   There's a small book - long out of print now, but well worth tracking =3D down.   "How to Build a Small - Two-Manual Chamber Pipe Organ" by H. F. Milne.   Published 1925 by Musical Opinion (in the UK). This contains info & =3D drawings of all the parts needed. Obviously, modern materials and parts = =3D are available for tracker actions that weren't around when Milne was =3D writing, but the basic principals remain true - and it's a fascinating =3D book in its own right.   Every Blessing   Tony   ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Daniel Hopkins=3D20 To: Residence Organ List=3D20 Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:52 PM Subject: [Residence Organs] Fw: Organ Plans         I plan on building a small Organ besides what I have I want to build it at least with two ranks of pipes , Similar to a =3D small continuo Organ does anyone have any plans you could send me I want to have at least a stoppered common bass of 12 notes and the = =3D rest of wood and also some metal for a seperate partial rank Chances are I will use my Flauto d amour and also some pipes I =3D salvaged from a fire for my diapason pipes, I have two complete =3D octaves usable from I think the 2 ' pitch up   I also have a trackers 56 note keyboard. I need plans to be able to =3D figure out what I need to do to situate the keyboard to be able to pull = =3D down the pallets of the chest I plan on building which will be somewhat = =3D compact Please help me I need help     Sincerely Daniel     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 7/24/2002   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0051_01C23872.CF787380 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Re: [Residence Organs] sticky situation</TITLE> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <STYLE type=3D3Dtext/css>BLOCKQUOTE { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } DL { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } UL { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } OL { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } LI { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } </STYLE>   <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>There's a small book - long out of = =3D print now, but=3D20 well worth tracking down.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>"How to Build a Small - Two-Manual = =3D Chamber Pipe=3D20 Organ" by H. F. Milne.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Published 1925 by Musical Opinion (in = =3D the=3D20 UK).&nbsp; This contains info &amp; drawings of all the parts =3D needed.&nbsp;=3D20 Obviously, modern materials and parts are available for tracker actions = =3D that=3D20 weren't around when Milne was writing, but the basic principals remain =3D true -=3D20 and it's a fascinating book in its own right.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Every Blessing</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tony</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3Ddanielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca">Daniel Hopkins</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3DDIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org">Residence Organ List</A> =3D </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 30, 2002 = =3D 11:52=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Residence Organs] Fw: = =3D Organ=3D20 Plans</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I plan on building a small =3D Organ&nbsp; besides=3D20 what I have</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;I want to build it at =3D least&nbsp; with two=3D20 ranks of pipes , Similar to a small continuo Organ</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>does anyone&nbsp; have any =3D plans&nbsp;you could=3D20 send me</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;I want to have at least a =3D stoppered=3D20 &nbsp;common bass of 12 notes and the rest of wood and also some metal = =3D for a=3D20 seperate partial rank</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;Chances are I will use my =3D Flauto d amour=3D20 and also some pipes I salvaged from a fire for my&nbsp; diapason =3D pipes, I have=3D20 two complete&nbsp; octaves usable from I think the 2 ' pitch =3D up</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I also have a trackers 56 note =3D keyboard. I=3D20 need&nbsp; plans to be able to figure out what I need to do to situate = =3D the=3D20 keyboard to&nbsp; be able to pull down the pallets of the chest I plan = =3D on=3D20 building which will be somewhat compact</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;Please help me</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;I need help</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;Sincerely Daniel</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><BR>---<BR>Outgoing mail is = certified =3D Virus=3D20 Free.<BR>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (<A=3D20 =3D href=3D3D"http://www.grisoft.com">http://www.grisoft.com</A>).<BR>Version: = =3D 6.0.380=3D20 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date:=3D20 7/24/2002</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0051_01C23872.CF787380--    
(back) Subject: Milne Book: Organ Plans From: "Carl Dodrill" <carl@dodrill.net> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 06:10:33 -0700   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0008_01C23858.FAF2F860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Re: [Residence Organs] sticky situationTony,   Does Milne in the book on building a small two manual organ present a preferred set of stops for such an organ? This would interest me and perhaps others on this list. Thank you.   Carl Dodrill Pipe Organ Foundation 4488 West Mercer Way Mercer Island WA 98040 Phone: (206) 236-3492 Fax: (425) 696-0082 e-mail: carl@dodrill.net     ------=3D_NextPart_000_0008_01C23858.FAF2F860 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Re: [Residence Organs] sticky situation</TITLE> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <STYLE type=3D3Dtext/css>BLOCKQUOTE { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } DL { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } UL { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } OL { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } LI { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } </STYLE>   <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4915.500" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D750510713-31072002><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D   size=3D3D2>Tony,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D750510713-31072002><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D   size=3D3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D750510713-31072002><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D size=3D3D2>Does=3D20 Milne in the book on building a small two manual organ present a =3D preferred set=3D20 of stops for such an organ?&nbsp; This would interest me and perhaps =3D others on=3D20 this list.&nbsp; Thank you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D750510713-31072002><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D   size=3D3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D750510713-31072002> <P><FONT size=3D3D2>Carl Dodrill<BR>Pipe Organ Foundation<BR>4488 West =3D Mercer=3D20 Way<BR>Mercer Island WA 98040<BR>Phone:&nbsp; (206) =3D 236-3492<BR>Fax:&nbsp; (425)=3D20 696-0082<BR>e-mail:&nbsp; carl@dodrill.net </FONT></P></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr style=3D3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><FONT face=3D3DArial = =3D color=3D3D#0000ff=3D20 size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0008_01C23858.FAF2F860--    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Milne Book: Organ Plans From: "Steven" <sdurham11@attbi.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 06:30:41 -0700   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0008_01C2385B.CAAA4110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Re: [Residence Organs] sticky situationCarl:   The stop list for a chamber organ would depend in part on the Literature = =3D that the organ would be required to play. It would be best to consult a = =3D professional for advice potential stop list's, pipe scaling, etc.   Steven Durham Portland, OR     ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Carl Dodrill=3D20 To: Residence Organ List=3D20 Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 6:10 AM Subject: [Residence Organs] Milne Book: Organ Plans     Tony,   Does Milne in the book on building a small two manual organ present a = =3D preferred set of stops for such an organ? This would interest me and =3D perhaps others on this list. Thank you.   Carl Dodrill Pipe Organ Foundation 4488 West Mercer Way Mercer Island WA 98040 Phone: (206) 236-3492 Fax: (425) 696-0082 e-mail: carl@dodrill.net=3D20       ------=3D_NextPart_000_0008_01C2385B.CAAA4110 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Re: [Residence Organs] sticky situation</TITLE> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <STYLE type=3D3Dtext/css>BLOCKQUOTE { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } DL { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } UL { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } OL { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } LI { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } </STYLE>   <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2716.2200" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000080>Carl:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000080></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000080>The&nbsp;stop list for&nbsp;a chamber organ = =3D would=3D20 depend in part&nbsp;on the Literature that the organ would be required =3D to=3D20 play.&nbsp; It would be best to consult a professional for advice =3D potential stop=3D20 list's, pipe scaling, etc.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000080></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000080>Steven Durham</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000080>Portland, OR</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000080></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000080></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3Dcarl@dodrill.net href=3D3D"mailto:carl@dodrill.net">Carl = =3D Dodrill</A>=3D20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3DDIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org">Residence Organ List</A> =3D </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 31, 2002 = =3D 6:10=3D20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Residence Organs] =3D Milne Book:=3D20 Organ Plans</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D750510713-31072002><FONT face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#0000ff=3D20 size=3D3D2>Tony,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D750510713-31072002><FONT face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#0000ff=3D20 size=3D3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D750510713-31072002><FONT face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#0000ff size=3D3D2>Does=3D20 Milne in the book on building a small two manual organ present a =3D preferred set=3D20 of stops for such an organ?&nbsp; This would interest me and perhaps =3D others on=3D20 this list.&nbsp; Thank you.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D750510713-31072002><FONT face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#0000ff=3D20 size=3D3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D750510713-31072002> <P><FONT size=3D3D2>Carl Dodrill<BR>Pipe Organ Foundation<BR>4488 West = =3D Mercer=3D20 Way<BR>Mercer Island WA 98040<BR>Phone:&nbsp; (206) =3D 236-3492<BR>Fax:&nbsp;=3D20 (425) 696-0082<BR>e-mail:&nbsp; <A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:carl@dodrill.net">carl@dodrill.net</A> =3D </FONT></P></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr style=3D3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><FONT = face=3D3DArial =3D color=3D3D#0000ff=3D20 size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0008_01C2385B.CAAA4110--    
(back) Subject: Re: Milne Book: Organ Plans From: "Larry Chace" <RLC1@etnainstruments.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:34:50 -0400   Having my copy of Milne at hand (the reprint done by the Organ Literature Foundation of Braintree, Massachusetts, of the original 1925 edition), = here is the proposed specification:   GREAT 58n 8' Open Diapason (stopped wood bass) 2-5/8" @ tenor-C 8' Stopped Diapason 2-3/4" by 3-1/4" @ CC 4' Principal 2-1/2" @ CC Swell to Great   SWELL 58n 8' Lieblich Gedackt 2-1/4" by 3-1/4" @ CC 8' Gamba, tc 2" @ tenor-C 4' Gemshorn 2-1/4" @ CC Swell to Swell Octave   PEDAL 30n 16' Bourdon (small scale) Great to Pedal   "Probably this scheme will no beet the requirements of everyone, and it is not absolutely necessary that it should be stricktly adheared to." Milne suggests that the Bourdon could be omitted, as could the Great Stopped Diapason, but he also warns against making "the organ too lean and hungry for the sake of the extra ranks", and suggests making the chests to accomodate the entire scheme, even if some pipework is deferred until = later.   He give detailed instructions on the design and construction of the entire instrument except for the metal pipes, which he suggests be purchased new or used. There are many fold-out drawings (which I wish had been grouped = at the end of the book rather than placed with their various chapters, since they "bulk-up" the book and make it difficult to read or hold open).   This book and the somewhat earlier "Organbuilding for Amateurs" by Wick, with its description of making pipes out of rolled-up paper, comprise the best English-language books on do-it-yourself pipe organ building. "Heimorgelbau" by Karl Borman (German only, but an English translation has been in the works for many years) is also quite fine, giving many details of wooden pipe making (including tiny mixture pipes).   Larry Chace        
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Milne Book: Organ Plans From: <Pipewheezr@aol.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:58:08 EDT   Good morning, I have three books that are a bout small organ building. The =   one you are talking about by H. F. Milne and Organ-Building for amateurs, = a practical guide for home-works, by Mark Wicks and The Organ Handbook, structure, design, maintain, history, and function of the organ by Hans Klotz. The last is a book on tracker organs for hard core (stick pushers) organist's. The Milne has plans as does the Wicks book. The Wicks book is available = from the organ literature foundation, Braintree, Mass. 02184 for $15.00. That = is in side the cover. Off to work, oh bother. Dennis