DIYAPASON-L Digest #588 - Thursday, June 20, 2002
 
Re: Console modifications
  by <Jess4203@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Console modifications
  by "Trailrider" <horseback@shell.core.com>
Re: DIYAPASON-L Digest #587 - 06/19/02
  by "Jon Fick" <jon@VermontFicks.org>
Re: compact consoles
  by "Ed Stauff" <ed@mewsic.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Console modifications
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@VASSAR.EDU>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: compact consoles
  by <Pipewheezr@aol.com>
Irreverent Organist Recruitment Drive
  by "Bob Richardson" <bob@peak.org>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Console modifications
  by <JFHally@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Console modifications
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@VASSAR.EDU>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Console modifications
  by <JFHally@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Console modifications From: <Jess4203@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 01:11:10 EDT     --part1_9f.28f3a5f8.2a42bdee_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 6/19/02 9:43:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Gary writes:   > The real limitation on this console is that there is only space for 45 > stopkeys so unification must be kept within that limitation. >   Hi Gary:   About two weeks ago I attended a concert in Burlington, NC at the High = School there where the Piedmont Theatre Organ Society has installed a 15 rank = hybrid TO in the 2000 seat auditorium. There are some real techno-geeks (and I = use that term in a good way) in that bunch, and they got a TO console shell = and built a very nice console with relays, MIDI, what have you. The part = germane to this post is that they had a one and a half row horseshoe stoprail and added another complete rail to the horseshoe. If you have headroom in the =   console, I'm sure some of these guys could tell you how to modify the = console you have to add another stop rail. Another manual is not out of the question, either, I don't think. Just depends on whether you want to = invest the time in modifying what you have or . . . .   Oh, and my console is built into the front of my little 2/3 and growing) house organ, but unfortunately I don't have any pix yet . . . the whole = organ was built by the late Scott Wheeler, but it was never wired or winded. I = am working on the blower (Spencer 110v single phase, 4" wind) now, cleaning = the fans and (probably) replacing the bearings in the 1/4 horse motor. Just my two cents, Roy Kersey   --part1_9f.28f3a5f8.2a42bdee_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#3dffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D2>In a message dated 6/19/02 9:43:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Gary = writes: <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The real = limitation on this console is that there is only space for 45 <BR>stopkeys so unification must be kept within that limitation. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Hi Gary: <BR> <BR>About two weeks ago I attended a concert in Burlington, NC at the High = School there where the Piedmont Theatre Organ Society has installed a 15 = rank hybrid TO in the 2000 seat auditorium. &nbsp;There are some real = techno-geeks (and I use that term in a good way) in that bunch, and they = got a TO console shell and built a very nice console with relays, MIDI, = what have you. &nbsp;The part germane to this post is that they had a one = and a half row horseshoe stoprail and added another complete rail to the = horseshoe. &nbsp;If you have headroom in the console, I'm sure some of = these guys could tell you how to modify the console you have to add = another stop rail. &nbsp;Another manual is not out of the question, = either, I don't think. Just depends on whether you want to invest the time = in modifying what you have or . . . . <BR> <BR>Oh, and my console is built into the front of my little 2/3 and = growing) house organ, but unfortunately I don't have any pix yet . . . the = whole organ was built by the late Scott Wheeler, but it was never wired or = winded. &nbsp;I am working on the blower (Spencer 110v single phase, 4" = wind) now, cleaning the fans and (probably) replacing the bearings in the = 1/4 horse motor. <BR> <BR>Just my two cents, <BR>Roy Kersey</FONT></HTML>   --part1_9f.28f3a5f8.2a42bdee_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Console modifications From: "Trailrider" <horseback@shell.core.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 06:32:50 -0500 (CDT)       On Thu, 20 Jun 2002 Jess4203@aol.com wrote:   > I'm sure some of these guys could tell you how to modify the console you > have to add another stop rail. Another manual is not out of the > question, either, I don't think. Just depends on whether you want to > invest the time in modifying what you have or . . . .   Thanks Roy. I have had tentative plans to add a second stop rail and a third manual. The problem I had with these plans was that GULCO consoles are not built to be easily modified in such a way. I am sure an expert wood worker could devise a way to do the mods and make them look good but my own wood working abilities are not of the caliber that I think would leave the finsished results looking all that good.   I also have a beautifully made 30 note AEolean pedal board and I put it in place on my GULCO console just to see how it would look but was dissapointed. The GULCO console looks good with its smaller 25 note pedal board but really looked awkward with that 30 note pedal board on it.   I think I will first get my organ playing using my GULCO console as planed and then make decisions as to either re-designing my console or replacing it with a larger console.   GaryK    
(back) Subject: Re: DIYAPASON-L Digest #587 - 06/19/02 From: "Jon Fick" <jon@VermontFicks.org> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 08:34:02 -0400   The console is mine. The web site is http://www.VermontFicks.org (I'm amazed that anyone would have noticed!)   It is indeed a smaller console but not because of anything I did deliberately. This organ came out of a small church in northern New York State 15 years ago where it was installed against and partially inside the facade. Thus, no attempt was made when it was built to enclose the back = of the console in any kind of casing. I've meant to "complete" the console = for many years but have not gotten around to it. Without a casing it's a conversation piece for people who don't realize that there is more to the organ than two keyboards and the 17 facade pipes they see, and with a = casing I would be able to preserve the valuable dust that collects around the hundreds of relay contacts in the back.   I wish I had time for lessons.   Jon Fick Westford, Vermont     ----- Original Message ----- > > I too have thought about this. Whilst websurfing a while back I came > across a photo of a couple of small consoles. Unfortunately I can only > find one of them now and unfortunately I can't find in my notes which > site the picture was from. For what it's worth: > > http://www.haskey.com/johnh/organ/small_console.jpg > > ---john.      
(back) Subject: Re: compact consoles From: "Ed Stauff" <ed@mewsic.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 08:48:28 -0400   This is a favorite subject of mine. For my future hausorgel, I want a very compact 3-manual console. My desire for compactness follows from a number of other design requirements: (1) an easily moveable console that can be placed in the best acoustical location in the room, (2) a console which minimizes the number of visual blocks between the performer and the audience.   A while back I did a lot of thinking and preliminary design work on the console, and for this discussion I've converted them into web-friendly form and posted them here:   http://www.mewsic.com/Ed/Organ/Console/index.html   It will probably be a few years before I can do any more work on this, but =   I will be closely watching this discussion with interest.   -- Ed   +---------------+---------------------------------+------------------+ | Edward Stauff | Software engineer, bibliophile, | "Specialization | | Fitchburg, MA | musician, lexophile, cohouser, | is for insects." | | Charlotte, VT | ferroequinologist, woodworker, | -- Lazarus Long | | WA1ZBR | husband, dad. (Order varies.) | (R. A. Heinlein) | +---------------+---------------------------------+------------------+  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Console modifications From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@VASSAR.EDU> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:33:59 -0700   All this talk about consoles... Can we interest anyone in a 3M 2 bolster Kimball TO console? gutted and parts outside refinished but needs more work. comes with 2 extra keyboards. We just wan to get rid of it.   John V  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: compact consoles From: <Pipewheezr@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:42:53 EDT   Hello all, I thought a Holkamp console looked fairly compact for an AGO standard console all the way up to a three manual. I have not seen a four manual by them. I was strongly considering building my own console then = the Moller appeared on the horizon and well I took the easy path. The console came with a dolly that just traced the foot print of the console. This = made moving a breeze, the thing is packed with the combination action and switches. The console runs on air, it is very quite compared to the Klann. =   The fellow who built the dolly is going to build a new one for the Allen. = The people at the church don't like the big rolling plat for from Allen. I also had a question about the gypping the organ room. Would it be a good =   idea to masonite the in side of the swell box(s)? In the reed pit I did masonite the framing I put up and then the gypped walls too. You can by white masonite to help brighten those dark corners in the = boxes.  
(back) Subject: Irreverent Organist Recruitment Drive From: "Bob Richardson" <bob@peak.org> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:07:56 -0700 (PDT)     (Also posted to the PipeChat and EORG-L mailing lists.)   Hello there -   Some of you may have noticed my occasional postings about my organ project - if not, here's a summary:   I'm restoring an old console (kindly donated by another member of this list) to become a touring classical organ. I am putting on a concert outdoors in the middle of the Nevada desert at the Burning Man event in August.   (Yes, that's right, classical organ performance outdoors in the middle of the desert in August - on generator power no less - why not?)   If you know what Burning Man is, are interested in going (or are definitely going), I would gladly welcome other performers to come and play my organ in front of others!   (If you don't know what Burning Man is, you can check out www.burningman.com - beware those who are easily offended - you have been warned.)   So, if sharing a parched plot of land with 25,000 revelers of various odd persuasions appeals to you, and bringing organ music to these people appeals even more, drop me a line and share our camp!   The instrument so far:   A restored Schoenstein 2M console, fully MIDI enabled, controlling two Ahlbron Archive MIDI organ modules. (The Ahlborn 201 - a basic baroque 20-rank organ - has arrived and is working, the Ahlborn 'Romantic' - a supplemental module with various reeds and celestes, is forthcoming.) Add a Syndyne stop tab controller to make the thing usable from the console, and a touch of digital reverb. (The desert is a very (ahem) dry acoustical environment.) A pair of Klipsch LaScala speakers substitutes for an organ chamber.   If anyone wants to drag along a theatre organ to spice up the show, you are of course more than welcome to make a spectacle of yourself!   Now if I can just get this thing put together in time to practice!   Best wishes, Bob Richardson, Virtuoso Mad Scientist          
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Console modifications From: <JFHally@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 17:17:08 EDT   John V. I am interested. Please supply details. Origin, Specs, location & how $$$ much. Regards, John Hally Roanoke, Va.  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Console modifications From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@VASSAR.EDU> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 17:33:32 -0700   >John V. >I am interested. Please supply details. Origin, Specs, location & how $$$ >much. >Regards, >John Hally >Roanoke, Va.   it's currently on a website http://pages.prodigy.net/r.m.strang/   page to the bottom and click on "item one".   Origin to be researched...( I know the previous owner who had it in = storage)   Pedal board was missing but we have a slightly damaged NEW OSI pedal board to go with it - no contacts but will supply some of those parts. Sloping horseshoe cover has a split in it. No bench. Front left and right cover pieces missing. top caps were also missing but obtained replacments that need repair and fitting. All panels were refinished professionally but got (surface)dirty from = storage.   Basically what ever you'll give us for it. could supply more detailed pics on request.   Thanks!   John V  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Console modifications From: <JFHally@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 18:09:37 EDT   John V. Too far gone for me. Looks like a lot of stuff missing. Am still = interested in the Loew's Pitkin console wreck I saw at Walt Froelich's storage garage =   near Jersey City. Dave Kopf was nice enough to meet me there some time = ago. Console was stored all over the place with pieces missing in the garage somewhere. I still think this is worth restoring and am willing to put all =   the work in to bring this back to pristine condition before it rots to = death. Do I have any sympiathy??? Is this still available, but at a resonable = price?   Dave told me you may still have the Loew"s Oriental console. Pls advise. Regards, John