DIYAPASON-L Digest #545 - Wednesday, March 27, 2002
 
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: relay advice
  by "randy newman" <rnewman@shop.rutgers.edu>
pipework acquisition
  by "Kelvin Smith" <KelvinSmith@UntraveledRoad.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  pipework acquisition
  by "John Haskey" <johnh@haskey.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  pipework acquisition
  by "Kelvin Smith" <KelvinSmith@UntraveledRoad.com>
Relays
  by "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: relay advice From: "randy newman" <rnewman@shop.rutgers.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:31:46 -0500     Hi Larry,     The syndyne relay has a few features I feel will work well in my = situataion. First of all it does not require a PC to set it up and does not require sending boards to the manufacturer to make changes to the specification. Since this is my residence organ it is a "work in progress" and i plan on reconfiguring things from time to time. Changing the spec is done from controls on one of the boards. While i'm sure it is not as easy to set up = as a system using a PC and graphical interface, in my case i won't mind the extra work since i won't need to buy and maintain a PC (i'm a mac user by = the way). My console is a 1930's Moller 3 manual drawknob air console and at = this point it is working fine and I don't have plans nor can i afford to = electrify it. The syndyne system has the combination action as a seperate optional board. since i won't need it right away i don't need to purchase it. in = the future if i decide to electrify the console i can buy it then.   another thing that i was impressed about is the way the boards connect togeather. there is only a 4 wire telephone type cable that runs from = board to board. the magnet driver boards can be placed all togeather, or in my = case i would probably mount each board on the end of the chest it is going to drive. then all i have to do is daisy chain the boards togeather with = small jumper wires. in the event i need to remove a chest for service or want to reconfigure all i need to do is unplug the phone wire and remove. no big cables to unsolder.   There are other things as well but these were the biggest of the points = that impressed me. I'm sure there are other relay systems out there that have = some of these features as well. I have not looked into all of them. I mainly = only know about systems that have info on line.   I would be more than happy to hear about peoples experiences with other systems.   -Randy       Larry Chace wrote:   > I believe that Randy Newman hit the nail on the head at the ending of = his > observation: > > >...Overall on paper i've been most impressed with the Syndyne LS2400 > >keying system. While it may not be the best for everyone it seem > >to have some features that make it ideal for my installation. > > What is best for one person will not necessarily be best (or even good = or > even adequate) for someone else. > > I saw some of the Syndyne products in their display booth at the = American > Institute of Organbuilders convention last October (where I was = displaying > a small product of my own and also helping at the Z-tronics booth). The > Syndyne products all looked very neat and well-made, and I know that = their > stop action units (tabs and now drawknobs) have been very popular. > > If I may ask, Randy, what are the features of the LS2400 that you found > attractive? > > Larry Chace > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > Residence Pipe Organs. > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: pipework acquisition From: "Kelvin Smith" <KelvinSmith@UntraveledRoad.com> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:38:47 -0700   Hi all,   I returned from Tennessee on Monday, where I bought the pipework from the organ that Scott Wheeler was installing in his house (which was = interrupted by his passing away). I brought 23 ranks of pipes home. There were some = new ranks of pipes and some older ranks in good condition and some heavily revoiced pipes most of which seem to be effectively done, but some are unfinished.   I was in need some pipes for an addition to my choir division, which were included in these. (A 4' string, a 4' harmonic flute and the bottom 12 notes of a celeste.) I have been planning to build this chest for months now, but wanted to acquire these pipes first. Once that is accomplished, I will look at a new chest for either the pedal or the great. I have 3 new ranks for the great, all 8's, a Gemshorn, a gedackt, and a doppelflute.   I haven't done much on the organ for over a year. Hopefully I'll make some more progress now. My windchests are very unreliable and replacing them would be a big step forward.   Kelvin      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] pipework acquisition From: "John Haskey" <johnh@haskey.net> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:39:16 -0800 (PST)       On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Kelvin Smith wrote:   > I haven't done much on the organ for over a year. Hopefully I'll make = some > more progress now. My windchests are very unreliable and replacing them > would be a big step forward. >   Kelvin, Why are your chests unreliable? I recall you built some of them yourself. What have you learned? I'm looking to build some chests in the near future and would appreciate any tips you might have...   ---john.    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] pipework acquisition From: "Kelvin Smith" <KelvinSmith@UntraveledRoad.com> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:53:18 -0700   John,   I have talked about building chests, but have never gotten around to it. Most of my chests are Hillgreen-Lane pitman chests. The pneumatic for the key action doesn't move fast enough and it is impossible to get them adjusted so that they both play promptly and stop playing promptly.   Kelvin   >On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Kelvin Smith wrote: > >> I haven't done much on the organ for over a year. Hopefully I'll make = some >> more progress now. My windchests are very unreliable and replacing them >> would be a big step forward. >> > >Kelvin, > Why are your chests unreliable? I recall you built some of them >yourself. What have you learned? I'm looking to build some chests in = the >near future and would appreciate any tips you might have... > > ---john. > > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Relays From: "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:41:02 -0600   Hi Group, Here is my two cents worth on relays. I have a solid state = relay from Peterson's. I am a nightmare when it comes to this sort of thing. = The folks at Peterson's have been nothing but wonderful there, will be a star = in their crowns for putting up with me! If it wasn't for Bob Dommer at Peterson's the organ here wouldn't be playing. He has helped me over the phone with the stupidest questions on my part. He is very patient and kind and has helped me a great deal. Thank you Bob. A word of advice if you want to go with them. Make sure that you know what kind of chests you = want to use. I had purchased some used pitman chests a few years back from a person in Delevan, Wi. and they were awful!( We burned them at the homecoming bonfire at school)! I have since( after I got the relay), = gone to electro-mechanical. There have been some changes on the relay because = of this and so it could have been avoided if I had done the = electro-mechanical in the first place. Have fun. The 1905 Estey lives and I love it! Gary