DIYAPASON-L Digest #677 - Tuesday, October 29, 2002
 
Re: Need 10 inch conduit
  by <Jess4203@aol.com>
RE: [Residence Organs]  Re: Need 10 inch conduit
  by "L.Huivenaar" <louis.huivenaar@wxs.nl>
RE: [Residence Organs]  Re: Need 10 inch conduit
  by "Eric Sagmuller" <ess4@psu.edu>
Jon Calvo
  by "Jan S. Van Der Stad" <dorian@nac.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Need 1n0 inch conduit
  by <Pipewheezr@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: Need 10 inch conduit
  by <Pipewheezr@aol.com>
Principal
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
SLIC motors
  by "Kelvin Smith" <KelvinSmith@UntraveledRoad.com>
SLIC motors
  by "Steven Durham" <sdurham11@attbi.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Principal
  by "Eric Sagmuller" <ess4@psu.edu>
Blowers
  by "wcjharrisville" <wcjharrisville@webryders.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Need 10 inch conduit From: <Jess4203@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 02:18:03 EST     --part1_a8.1436346c.2aef902b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi Steve and list:   First of all, though I'm not a professional organ builder and don't even = play one on TV, I'm surprised by the ten inch conduit for an organ with 5" of = wind pressure. Is this really necessary, or just what the previous builder used/had available? The large area would allow more CFM, I would think, = but is such a large volume really necessary, or would a more normal diameter = duct suffice?   Secondly, if a large area duct is really necessary (~78.5 square inches), = a couple of possible equivalent constructions suggest themselves to my = fevered brain:   1. A rectangular wooden duct of 8"x 10" dimensions, giving 80 square = inches of area vs the 78.5 square inches of a 10" diameter circular duct. At a dollar a foot for the (pine) lumber, this would still cost only $120 vs = the $400 for the ducting. One has to factor in the labor/nuisance cost of fabrication.   2. Three pieces of six inch PVC with the appropriate home-made pieces to connect the 10" hole to the three 6" holes on each end. A few pieces of plywood to go from a 10" hole to a 12" square with three six inch holes in = it should do the trick. Six inch PVC should be less than $1 a foot, I think. = That would put you under $90!   The above assumes that the ductwork doesn't have to be flexible to deal = with a serpentine path. Either the wood square duct or the PVC could be built with turns and curves with some added difficulty, PVC more easily, as = various elbows are available for 90 degrees, 45, 22.5, etc.   HTH, Roy Kersey   --part1_a8.1436346c.2aef902b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hi Steve and list: <BR> <BR>First of all, though I'm not a professional organ builder and don't = even play one on TV, I'm surprised by the ten inch conduit for an organ = with 5" of wind pressure. &nbsp;Is this really necessary, or just what the = previous builder used/had available? &nbsp;The large area would allow more = CFM, I would think, but is such a large volume really necessary, or would = a more normal diameter duct suffice? <BR> <BR>Secondly, if a large area duct is really necessary (~78.5 square = inches), a couple of possible equivalent constructions suggest themselves = to my fevered brain: <BR> <BR>1. &nbsp;A rectangular wooden duct of 8"x 10" dimensions, giving 80 = square inches of area vs the 78.5 square inches of a 10" diameter circular = duct. &nbsp;At a dollar a foot for the (pine) lumber, this would still = cost only $120 vs the $400 for the ducting. &nbsp;One has to factor in the = labor/nuisance cost of fabrication. <BR> <BR>2. &nbsp;Three pieces of six inch PVC with the appropriate home-made = pieces to connect the 10" hole to the three 6" holes on each end. &nbsp;A = few pieces of plywood to go from a 10" hole to a 12" square with three six = inch holes in it should do the trick. &nbsp;Six inch PVC should be less = than $1 a foot, I think. &nbsp;That would put you under $90! <BR> <BR>The above assumes that the ductwork doesn't have to be flexible to = deal with a serpentine path. &nbsp;Either the wood square duct or the PVC = could be built with turns and curves with some added difficulty, PVC more = easily, as various elbows are available for 90 degrees, 45, 22.5, etc. <BR> <BR>HTH, <BR>Roy Kersey </FONT></HTML>   --part1_a8.1436346c.2aef902b_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] Re: Need 10 inch conduit From: "L.Huivenaar" <louis.huivenaar@wxs.nl> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:20:13 +0100   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000F_01C27F56.4BC34A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit   Hello List,   I have restored recently an Estey Residence Player Pipeorgan # 2088 2mp 6D1, 6 duplex and 1 pedalstop.   The main conduit is from iron and 10 inch diameter and a pressure of 5=94 = in the whole system.   I can tell you, the instrument needs it a loth, otherwise your sound will dance like a ballerina in the wind.   greetings     Louis Huivenaar     Netherlands   Member Federation TMV   Appraiser under Oath for Harmoniums and Reedorgans in Europe   Harmonium and Reedorgan restorer Pipeorganbuilder and restorer www.harmonium.com <http://www.harmonium.com/>   Hello List, The Estey Residence Player Pipeorgan # 2088 2mp   -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org [mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org]Namens Jess4203@aol.com Verzonden: dinsdag 29 oktober 2002 8:18 Aan: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org Onderwerp: [Residence Organs] Re: Need 10 inch conduit   Hi Steve and list:   First of all, though I'm not a professional organ builder and don't even play one on TV, I'm surprised by the ten inch conduit for an organ with 5" of wind pressure. Is this really necessary, or just what the previous builder used/had available? The large area would allow more CFM, I would think, but is such a large volume really necessary, or would a more normal diameter duct suffice?   Secondly, if a large area duct is really necessary (~78.5 square inches), = a couple of possible equivalent constructions suggest themselves to my = fevered brain:   1. A rectangular wooden duct of 8"x 10" dimensions, giving 80 square = inches of area vs the 78.5 square inches of a 10" diameter circular duct. At a dollar a foot for the (pine) lumber, this would still cost only $120 vs = the $400 for the ducting. One has to factor in the labor/nuisance cost of fabrication.   2. Three pieces of six inch PVC with the appropriate home-made pieces to connect the 10" hole to the three 6" holes on each end. A few pieces of plywood to go from a 10" hole to a 12" square with three six inch holes in it should do the trick. Six inch PVC should be less than $1 a foot, I think. That would put you under $90!   The above assumes that the ductwork doesn't have to be flexible to deal = with a serpentine path. Either the wood square duct or the PVC could be built with turns and curves with some added difficulty, PVC more easily, as various elbows are available for 90 degrees, 45, 22.5, etc.   HTH, Roy Kersey   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000F_01C27F56.4BC34A80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <html xmlns:o=3D3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" =3D xmlns:w=3D3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" =3D xmlns=3D3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">   <head> <meta http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <meta name=3D3DProgId content=3D3DWord.Document> <meta name=3D3DGenerator content=3D3D"Microsoft Word 9"> <meta name=3D3DOriginator content=3D3D"Microsoft Word 9"> <link rel=3D3DFile-List href=3D3D"cid:filelist.xml@01C27F56.4A8D89A0"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:RelyOnVML/> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:HyphenationZone>21</w:HyphenationZone> <w:EnvelopeVis/> <w:DrawingGridHorizontalSpacing>9,35 =3D pt</w:DrawingGridHorizontalSpacing> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; 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</span>6D1,<span =3D style=3D3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>6 duplex and 1 =3D pedalstop.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><span class=3D3DEmailStijl15><font size=3D3D3 =3D color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language: EN-GB'><![if =3D !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><span class=3D3DEmailStijl15><font size=3D3D3 =3D color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language: EN-GB'>The main conduit is from iron and 10 inch diameter and a pressure = =3D of 5&#8221; in the whole system.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><span class=3D3DEmailStijl15><font size=3D3D3 =3D color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language: EN-GB'><![if =3D !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><span class=3D3DEmailStijl15><font size=3D3D3 =3D color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language: EN-GB'>I can tell you, the instrument needs it a loth, otherwise your =3D sound will dance like a ballerina in the =3D wind.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><span class=3D3DEmailStijl15><font size=3D3D3 =3D color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language: EN-GB'><![if =3D !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><span class=3D3DEmailStijl15><font size=3D3D3 =3D color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language: EN-GB'>greetings<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><span class=3D3DEmailStijl15><font size=3D3D3 =3D color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language: EN-GB'><![if =3D !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>   <h2 style=3D3D'margin-left:0cm'><u><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3D"#339966" face=3D3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#339966'>Louis Huivenaar<o:p></o:p></span></font></u></h2>   <h3><u><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3D"#339966" face=3D3D"Times New = Roman"><span =3D lang=3D3DEN-GB style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;color:#339966'>Nether= =3D lands<o:p></o:p></span></font></u></h3>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><u><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3D"#339966" = face=3D3D"Times =3D New Roman"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#339966;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Member Federation <b style=3D3D'mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span =3D style=3D3D'font-weight: bold'>TMV<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></font></u></p>   <h4><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3D"#339966" face=3D3D"Times New Roman"><span = =3D lang=3D3DEN-GB style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt'><span =3D style=3D3D'mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Appraiser under Oath for Harmoniums and Reedorgans in =3D Europe<o:p></o:p></span></span></font></h4>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3D"#339966" = face=3D3D"Times New =3D Roman"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#339966;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Harmoniu= =3D m and Reedorgan restorer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3D"#339966" = face=3D3D"Times New =3D Roman"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#339966;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Pipeorga= =3D nbuilder and restorer<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3D"#339966" = face=3D3D"Times New =3D Roman"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#339966;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><a href=3D3D"http://www.harmonium.com/">www.harmonium.com</a><o:p></o:p></span= =3D ></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><span class=3D3DEmailStijl15><font size=3D3D3 =3D color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language: EN-GB'><![if =3D !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><span class=3D3DEmailStijl15><font size=3D3D3 =3D color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;display:none; mso-hide:all;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Hello List, The Estey Residence =3D Player Pipeorgan # 2088 2mp<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><span class=3D3DEmailStijl15><font size=3D3D3 =3D color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language: EN-GB'><![if =3D !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal style=3D3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3D2 =3D color=3D3Dblack face=3D3DTahoma><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Oorspronke= =3D lijk bericht-----<br> <b><span style=3D3D'font-weight:bold'>Van:</span></b> =3D DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org [mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org]<b><span =3D style=3D3D'font-weight:bold'>Namens </span></b>Jess4203@aol.com<br> <b><span style=3D3D'font-weight:bold'>Verzonden:</span></b> dinsdag 29 =3D oktober 2002 8:18<br> <b><span style=3D3D'font-weight:bold'>Aan:</span></b> =3D DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org<br> <b><span style=3D3D'font-weight:bold'>Onderwerp:</span></b> [Residence =3D Organs] Re: Need 10 inch conduit</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal style=3D3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3D3 face=3D3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt'><![if =3D !supportEmptyParas]>&nbsp;<![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal style=3D3D'margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3D3D2 =3D color=3D3Dblack face=3D3DArial><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Hi Steve and list: <br> <br> First of all, though I'm not a professional organ builder and don't even = =3D play one on TV, I'm surprised by the ten inch conduit for an organ with =3D 5&quot; of wind pressure. &nbsp;Is this really necessary, or just what the previous builder used/had available? &nbsp;The large area would allow more CFM, I = =3D would think, but is such a large volume really necessary, or would a more =3D normal diameter duct suffice? <br> <br> Secondly, if a large area duct is really necessary (~78.5 square =3D inches), a couple of possible equivalent constructions suggest themselves to my =3D fevered brain: <br> <br> 1. &nbsp;A rectangular wooden duct of 8&quot;x 10&quot; dimensions, =3D giving 80 square inches of area vs the 78.5 square inches of a 10&quot; diameter =3D circular duct. &nbsp;At a dollar a foot for the (pine) lumber, this would still =3D cost only $120 vs the $400 for the ducting. &nbsp;One has to factor in the labor/nuisance cost of fabrication. <br> <br> 2. &nbsp;Three pieces of six inch PVC with the appropriate home-made =3D pieces to connect the 10&quot; hole to the three 6&quot; holes on each end. =3D &nbsp;A few pieces of plywood to go from a 10&quot; hole to a 12&quot; square with =3D three six inch holes in it should do the trick. &nbsp;Six inch PVC should be =3D less than $1 a foot, I think. &nbsp;That would put you under $90! <br> <br> The above assumes that the ductwork doesn't have to be flexible to deal = =3D with a serpentine path. &nbsp;Either the wood square duct or the PVC could be =3D built with turns and curves with some added difficulty, PVC more easily, as =3D various elbows are available for 90 degrees, 45, 22.5, etc. <br> <br> </span></font><font size=3D3D2 color=3D3Dblack face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;color:black'>HTH, <br> Roy Kersey </span></font><font color=3D3Dblack><span =3D style=3D3D'color:black;mso-color-alt: windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   </div>   </body>   </html>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000F_01C27F56.4BC34A80--      
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] Re: Need 10 inch conduit From: "Eric Sagmuller" <ess4@psu.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:33:01 -0500     I used "Spiral Duct". This comes in 10' lengths and is used for higher pressure HVAC applications. The elbows, etc. are more expensive than regular ductwork but are welded at the seems so don't leak, and are smoother. I used "Hard Cast" to seal my joints. It is permanent and beats =   soldering as far as work is concerned. I got all this at my local sheet metal dealer.   Eric    
(back) Subject: Jon Calvo From: "Jan S. Van Der Stad" <dorian@nac.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:34:40 -0500   Hi, List   Sorry for the listwide interruption.....ls John Calvo still on any of = these lists?   Please contact me John   Thanks   Jan S. Van Der Stad          
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Need 1n0 inch conduit From: <Pipewheezr@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:23:27 EST     --part1_42.2ff2bdc7.2af001ef_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   This is a windy subject! From the blower   --part1_42.2ff2bdc7.2af001ef_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">This is a windy subject!<BR> From the blower </FONT></HTML>   --part1_42.2ff2bdc7.2af001ef_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: Need 10 inch conduit From: <Pipewheezr@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:43:19 EST     --part1_1ab.b1e2eb5.2af00697_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Sorry about that last blipp! OK from the blower to the blower box a rubber cloth bag, than 8" line from =   the box to the blower regulator, then into 10" line to feed all the rest = of the wind system. All tin is soldered and the joints that are not are = friction tape then shellacked. I found that big plastic pipes are expensive as are = the elbows and they are bulky. The tin was not hard to solder with an iron = with an enough poop! I have used the white plastic at 4" and 3" to see how it holds up. For connections to regulators and chest I have been using the aluminum flanges, but I clean them up on the lathe. Leather gaskets only! I do have pictures of the wind system in the attic and down in the pit = with the reeds. The blower box is 3X3 I think and 7 or 8 baffles that took the scream out = of the blower. I was nerves about putting padding in side the box if it came loose and found it's way to the pipes. Well, that seams boring enough to me, I have built this twice! And I have = to move the swell reg. and the swell motor to make room for a cathedral = ceiling below. Off to work. Dennis   --part1_1ab.b1e2eb5.2af00697_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Sorry about that last blipp! <BR> OK from the blower to the blower box a rubber cloth bag, than 8" line from = the box to the blower regulator, then into 10" line to feed all the rest = of the wind system. All tin is soldered and the joints that are not are = friction tape then shellacked. I found that big plastic pipes are = expensive as are the elbows and they are bulky. The tin was not hard to = solder with an iron with an enough poop!<BR> I have used the white plastic at 4" and 3" to see how it holds up. <BR> For connections to regulators and chest I have been using the aluminum = flanges, but I clean them up on the lathe. Leather gaskets only!<BR> I do have pictures of the wind system in the attic and down in the pit = with the reeds.<BR> The blower box is 3X3 I think and 7 or 8 baffles that took the scream out = of the blower. I was nerves about putting padding in side the box if it = came loose and found it's way to the pipes.<BR> Well, that seams boring enough to me, I have built this twice! And I have = to move the swell reg. and the swell motor to make room for a cathedral = ceiling below.<BR> Off to work.<BR> Dennis<BR> </FONT></HTML>   --part1_1ab.b1e2eb5.2af00697_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Principal From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:36:58 -0600   Okay. It now appears that the "52 Scale principal" is actually a 4' Octave, not an 8' principal, with a low C of 3" in diameter. Can somebody translate for me what scale that would be if did go down another octave?   Dennis Steckley   Ich liebe meine Katzen        
(back) Subject: SLIC motors From: "Kelvin Smith" <KelvinSmith@UntraveledRoad.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:14:31 -0700   Hi all,   I keep making slow progress towards building a new electric slider windchest for my choir division. I have a full-sized drawing of the chest with all the pipes layed out on it. The chest magnets are coming from = Organ Supply in a couple weeks and the SLIC motors has have been laying around here for a year or more.   I am trying to figure out to connect the slic motor to the chest and to = the slider. Undoubtedly someone out there has done this before. There is a = bolt at one with a metal plate which looks like it's indended to sandwich something in it, but I'm not sure how to make use of that to attach it to = a chest. For the slider connection there's a metal piece that fits a little wheel into it with a wood block at the other end. The wood block has 2 screw holes which maybe you're just supposed to screw into through the slider.   The other question I have about this is the wiring. There are three wires, black, red and green. I figure there would be a ground, an on, and an off. There is a relay on it also, so I would expect there to be a high voltage wire, but that comes to 4.   I have been pretty profligate lately when it comes to spending on my = organ. I ordered a new coupler rail from Organ Supply to replace the pneumatic = one in my console. I want to replace the drawknobs too, but that is more complicated, so I did this first. It's supposed to arrive in a couple = weeks also.   I also bought a zimbelstern and 3 ranks of pipes. I have never been happy with my 4 and 2' Diapasons on the great, so I am going to try some different ones. They are from an E.M. Skinner organ. There is also an 8' trumpet, which will give me an independant one for the Great.   Kelvin      
(back) Subject: SLIC motors From: "Steven Durham" <sdurham11@attbi.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:52:47 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)   Kelvin:   As SLIC motors are very expensive to replace if you fry one, I'd suggest you contact the technical support people at OSI to answer your wiring and installation questions. They are extremely helpful and know how to solve just about every organ question. They even helped me with a problem I had with used equipment I purchased from someone else!   Best Regards,   Steven Durham     -------Original Message-------   From: Residence Organ List Date: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 3:15:26 PM To: Residence Organ List Subject: [Residence Organs] SLIC motors   Hi all,   I keep making slow progress towards building a new electric slider windchest for my choir division. I have a full-sized drawing of the chest with all the pipes layed out on it. The chest magnets are coming from Organ Supply in a couple weeks and the SLIC motors has have been laying around here for a year or more.   I am trying to figure out to connect the slic motor to the chest and to the slider. Undoubtedly someone out there has done this before. There is a bolt at one with a metal plate which looks like it's indended to sandwich something in it, but I'm not sure how to make use of that to attach it to a chest. For the slider connection there's a metal piece that fits a little wheel into it with a wood block at the other end. The wood block has 2 screw holes which maybe you're just supposed to screw into through the slider.   The other question I have about this is the wiring. There are three wires, black, red and green. I figure there would be a ground, an on, and an off. There is a relay on it also, so I would expect there to be a high voltage wire, but that comes to 4.   I have been pretty profligate lately when it comes to spending on my organ. I ordered a new coupler rail from Organ Supply to replace the pneumatic one in my console. I want to replace the drawknobs too, but that is more complicated, so I did this first. It's supposed to arrive in a couple weeks also.   I also bought a zimbelstern and 3 ranks of pipes. I have never been happy with my 4 and 2' Diapasons on the great, so I am going to try some different ones. They are from an E.M. Skinner organ. There is also an 8' trumpet, which will give me an independant one for the Great.   Kelvin       DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own Residence Pipe Organs. HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Principal From: "Eric Sagmuller" <ess4@psu.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:23:59 -0500   Dennis,   If your low C actually measures 3" inside diameter, it is a 60 1/2 scale = at 4'. To get the 8' scale at C1 for 8' you would subtract 12 making it a 48 1/2 scale assuming the halving ratio is 17. I don't know where the 52 came =   from.   Eric       At 03:36 PM 10/29/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Okay. It now appears that the "52 Scale principal" is actually a 4' >Octave, not an 8' principal, with a low C of 3" in diameter. Can >somebody translate for me what scale that would be if did go down >another octave? > >Dennis Steckley > >Ich liebe meine Katzen > > > > >DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own >Residence Pipe Organs. >HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org >List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Blowers From: "wcjharrisville" <wcjharrisville@webryders.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:06:46 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0017_01C27F97.78EBBE20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   I recently got some information on a special type blower that is used =3D primarly for those big inflatable fun things uses at fairs and special =3D gatherings. It is: Huffer Mfg Co, Johnson City, Tennessee. Phone: =3D (423) 232-7000. They have a 1 HP "Scrambler" which delivers 5" pressure = =3D at 400 CFM and a 1.5 HP which can deliver 4" to 10" pressure. Web: =3D www.huffermfg.com. The blower I saw was very quiet. I received some =3D info, but I have no prices. Will Jost   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0017_01C27F97.78EBBE20 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2719.2200" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I recently got some information on a = =3D special type=3D20 blower that is used primarly for those&nbsp;big inflatable fun things =3D uses at=3D20 fairs and special gatherings.&nbsp; It is: Huffer Mfg Co, Johnson = City,=3D20 Tennessee.&nbsp; Phone: (423) 232-7000.&nbsp; They have a 1 HP =3D "Scrambler" which=3D20 delivers 5" pressure at 400 CFM and a 1.5 HP which can deliver 4" to 10" = =3D   pressure.&nbsp; Web: <A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.huffermfg.com">www.huffermfg.com</A>.&nbsp; The =3D blower I saw=3D20 was very quiet.&nbsp; I received some info, but I have no prices.&nbsp; = =3D Will=3D20 Jost</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0017_01C27F97.78EBBE20--