DIYAPASON-L Digest #645 - Friday, September 13, 2002
 
organ available
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Moving an Organ
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
RE: [Residence Organs]  organ available
  by "L.Huivenaar" <louis.huivenaar@wxs.nl>
Rackboard reaming tools
  by <d.doerschuk@att.net>
RE: [Residence Organs]  organ available
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: [Residence Organs]  organ available
  by "Jane and Dave Whitmore" <JDWhitmore@worldnet.att.net>
Organ Pictures
  by <Kzimmer0817@aol.com>
Switching circuits
  by <Kzimmer0817@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Switching circuits
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@mindspring.com>
Fwd: free console (X-post)
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
 

(back) Subject: organ available From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:26:22 -0700   Hi people,     There's a 6? - 7? rank instrument available in a house up in northern NJ. Mostly Aeolian chests and all flue pipe work. The console however is NOT available - spoken for. But it is currently playing in a fashion, some cyphers. It has 3 regulators that do not seem to leak. pipe work nice and clean. One Manual Bourdon rank is = spoken for also. The relay works and the small spencer blower runs fine.   The new owner inherited the place from his father, and does not play. Hates to trash it but wants a good home. In a barn there are other consoles in storage. dusty, dirty but dry - so: restorable. One player console is also spoken for as is all other organ stuff in the barn.   Here's the bottom line: we collect stuff to store and sell to fund our high school project. We are allowed to have it all - as he takes a write-off as a donation to our theatre organ chapter. We'll take the loose organ parts/pipes in the barn but hate to break up the playing organ; so we are offering that in exchange for a small donation to our chapter project, subject to the limitations mentioned above. Last weekend we already took most of the 4'-and-up pipes out of the barn and plan to come back with a truck for more.   That makes the owner happy and also allows us to get the console out of the house(needs to come through the organ chamber). There is probably another flue type rank available in the barn to replace the one that cannot go with the organ. We can talk about that later. Anyone interested? I will have some pictures in the near future.   John V  
(back) Subject: Moving an Organ From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:53:58 -0500   I felt exactly the same way as we were moving my 3-rank Moller Artiste in the door after a 1200 mile drive from North Dakota to central Illinois.   I decided some modest additions would be nice, but the next thing I knew I had about 15 ranks lying around the house. So my current thinking is to take all the pieces and incorporate them into a complete second pipe organ. Even as we speak, a console is on the way and some additional ranks, too. A blower has been located, as have windchests, a couple of reservoirs. It's all been cheap so far--but I'm looking at a Peterson relay system to tie it all together and that's where the big bucks start.   Dennis Steckley   Ich liebe meine Katzen   __________________________ As the parts came through the door (and continued to come in for several hours,) I said to myself, "You know what you got into, but WHY did you do it???"   The next day my good friend John Vanderlee, who is on this email list and who has done a few installations, emailed me in response to that question. His reply was simply, "When you hear it you will know why you did it."      
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] organ available From: "L.Huivenaar" <louis.huivenaar@wxs.nl> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 20:05:24 +0200   Hello John,   Can you send me some photo's and information about the Aeolian chests and pipes. IS there a 16 bourdon between it?     Greetings   Louis Huivenaar Netherlands Member Federatie TMV Appraiser under Oath for Harmoniums and Reedorgans in Europe Harmonium and Reedorgan restorer Pipeorganbuilder and restorer +31 75 684 4858 ( Tel/Fax Factory) +31 653 117 697 ( Mobil) www.harmonium.com         -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org [mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org]Namens John Vanderlee Verzonden: vrijdag 13 september 2002 18:26 Aan: Residence Organ List Onderwerp: [Residence Organs] organ available   Hi people,     There's a 6? - 7? rank instrument available in a house up in northern NJ. Mostly Aeolian chests and all flue pipe work. The console however is NOT available - spoken for. But it is currently playing in a fashion, some cyphers. It has 3 regulators that do not seem to leak. pipe work nice and clean. One Manual Bourdon rank is = spoken for also. The relay works and the small spencer blower runs fine.   The new owner inherited the place from his father, and does not play. Hates to trash it but wants a good home. In a barn there are other consoles in storage. dusty, dirty but dry - so: restorable. One player console is also spoken for as is all other organ stuff in the barn.   Here's the bottom line: we collect stuff to store and sell to fund our high school project. We are allowed to have it all - as he takes a write-off as a donation to our theatre organ chapter. We'll take the loose organ parts/pipes in the barn but hate to break up the playing organ; so we are offering that in exchange for a small donation to our chapter project, subject to the limitations mentioned above. Last weekend we already took most of the 4'-and-up pipes out of the barn and plan to come back with a truck for more.   That makes the owner happy and also allows us to get the console out of the house(needs to come through the organ chamber). There is probably another flue type rank available in the barn to replace the one that cannot go with the organ. We can talk about that later. Anyone interested? I will have some pictures in the near future.   John V   DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own Residence Pipe Organs. HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Rackboard reaming tools From: <d.doerschuk@att.net> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 18:24:37 +0000   Hi everyone!   There was a recent group of messages on rackboard reaming, and I thought = I'd add my two cents and also pose a question. First, $.02:   1. For those of you that like to drill to approximate diameter, and then = sand or file to final diameters, Stanley Tools has a cylindrical version of it's "SurForm" file system that works pretty well for quick-n-dirty = diameter expansion. Take a look at this URL: http://www.stanleytools.com/default.asp? CATEGORY=3DSURFORM+TOOLS+AND+BLADES&TYPE=3DPRODUCT&PARTNUMBER=3D21-297   2. For those who don't mind a taper in their rackboards, one of the = cheapest and most universally available machine tapers is the Morse Taper. Taper Reamers to cut a Morse Taper start at about $20 for an import in small diameters, and go up to several hundred dollars for the largest diameter. =   Wholesale Tools carries them, I just found a nice four-piece set for $119 (MT#1 - #4) at: http://server1.wttool.com/cgi-bin/miva? Merchant2/merchant.mv+Screen=3DCTGY&Store_Code=3DWT&Category_Code=3D1167004= 0p. You can also try J&L Industrial at http://www.jlindustrial.com/ or MSC, or any =   machine shop supply house.   So, that's my $.02, now for a question if I may: What do you see as the ideal "new tool" for handling rackboard drilling?: 1. Is it an adjustable expansion bit that has perhaps a delta of 1/2"? = (e.g. one bit handles 1" to 1.5", another bit for 1.5" to 2", etc.) 2. Is it a taper, and if so, how many degrees of taper can be tolerated? 3. Is it pin-centered, free centered, or does it drill it's own pilot = hole? 4. If you were going to use Forstner bits, ideally how close should they = be? (e.g. series seperated by 1/16", or 1/32", or 1/64", etc.) 5. Is it some tool configuration I haven't thought of?   I'd be very interested in reading your comments and ideas.   I hope you're all having fun and successes with your projects.   Stay safe, Dave Doerschuk  
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] organ available From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 15:18:02 -0700   >Hello John, > >Can you send me some photo's and information about the Aeolian chests and >pipes. >IS there a 16 bourdon between it? > > >Greetings > >Louis Huivenaar >Netherlands >Member Federatie TMV >Appraiser under Oath for Harmoniums and Reedorgans in Europe >Harmonium and Reedorgan restorer >Pipeorganbuilder and restorer >+31 75 684 4858 ( Tel/Fax Factory) >+31 653 117 697 ( Mobil) > www.harmonium.com   Dat kan inderdaad! De fotos heb ik al. Zal ze maandag via email sturen. De manual bourdon is niet te koop. Maar het is mogelijk dat er nog een in dat andere spul zit.   Wilde je het naar Holland verschepen?   John V  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] organ available From: "Jane and Dave Whitmore" <JDWhitmore@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 16:43:54 -0400   At 09:26 AM 9/13/02 -0700, you wrote: >Hi people, > > > Here's the bottom line: we collect stuff to store and sell to fund > our high school project. We are allowed to have it all - as he takes > a write-off as a donation to our theatre organ chapter. We'll take > the loose organ parts/pipes in the barn but hate to break up the > playing organ; so we are offering that in exchange for a small > donation to our chapter project, subject to the limitations mentioned > above. Last weekend we already took most of the 4'-and-up pipes out > of the barn and plan to come back with a truck for more.   Hi John,   I have a very non-pressing need for the low 12 notes of a small scale 16' bourdon on about 3-4". Preferably with an offset chest. Also looking for a =   small reservoir to handle about 4 ranks on 3" w.p.   I'm not in immediate need of either---however, if there's something there I'm interested.   Thanks,   Dave, still in Vermont    
(back) Subject: Organ Pictures From: <Kzimmer0817@aol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 19:22:18 EDT     --part1_128.17804c2b.2ab3cd2a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   List,   I have three zip files that unzip into about 6-7 pictures of the Austin = organ I just acquired. I don't know if anybody is interested, but I will be = happy to send them to anybody who would like to see them. They were taken by = the guy who was selling the organ.   Thanks, Keith Zimmerman   --part1_128.17804c2b.2ab3cd2a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">List,<BR> <BR> I have three zip files that unzip into about 6-7 pictures of the Austin = organ I just acquired.&nbsp; I don't know if anybody is interested, but I = will be happy to send them to anybody who would like to see them.&nbsp; = They were taken by the guy who was selling the organ.<BR> <BR> Thanks,<BR> Keith Zimmerman</FONT></HTML>   --part1_128.17804c2b.2ab3cd2a_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Switching circuits From: <Kzimmer0817@aol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 20:46:08 EDT     --part1_114.173186a0.2ab3e0d0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   List,   On one of the pipe organ lists, a member was describing his home made = diode switching mechanism. I can still remember a little of my college physics, =   but the actual practical use of it escapes me.   Apparently, the hobbyest wanted solid state switching for his organ, but, like me, was blown away by the price. He had some electronics background, = so he soldered together his own solid state switching board.   I'm not exactly interested in MIDI capabilities for my organ. I think the =   relays and switches for the organ are OK.   I've heard that the solid state is reliable because there are no moving parts. If somebody has experience with this, please let me know - or = refer me to a source.   As I get into my project, I think much of the wiring will explain itself = as I go at it backwards. I'm thinking that the wiring for the straight ranks (i.e. the pitman chests) will be quite straightforward. I studied the = relay board for the swell, and I think I know how it goes together.   Anyway, if anybody has any ideas, please let me know. It'll be a while before I need to do any wiring. I can test the pitman chests by pushing = on the little valve wires sticking out of the bottom of the chest.   Thanks, keith   --part1_114.173186a0.2ab3e0d0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">List,<BR> <BR> On one of the pipe organ lists, a member was describing his home made = diode switching mechanism.&nbsp; I can still remember a little of my = college physics, but the actual practical use of it escapes me.<BR> <BR> Apparently, the hobbyest wanted solid state switching for his organ, but, = like me, was blown away by the price.&nbsp; He had some electronics = background, so he soldered together his own solid state switching = board.<BR> <BR> I'm not exactly interested in MIDI capabilities for my organ.&nbsp; I = think the relays and switches for the organ are OK.<BR> <BR> I've heard that the solid state is reliable because there are no moving = parts.&nbsp; If somebody has experience with this, please let me know - or = refer me to a source.<BR> <BR> As I get into my project, I think much of the wiring will explain itself = as I go at it backwards.&nbsp; I'm thinking that the wiring for the = straight ranks (i.e. the pitman chests) will be quite = straightforward.&nbsp; I studied the relay board for the swell, and I = think I know how it goes together.<BR> <BR> Anyway, if anybody has any ideas, please let me know.&nbsp; It'll be a = while before I need to do any wiring.&nbsp; I can test the pitman chests = by pushing on the little valve wires sticking out of the bottom of the = chest.<BR> <BR> Thanks,<BR> keith</FONT></HTML>   --part1_114.173186a0.2ab3e0d0_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Switching circuits From: "Mac Hayes" <mach37@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 18:07:32 -0700   Kzimmer0817@aol.com wrote: > > On one of the pipe organ lists, a member was describing his home made > diode switching mechanism...     One of those ambitious DIY tinkerers was Christopher Sabatowich, of this list. I am waiting to hear the results of his relay design experience.   I'd also like to receive your zipped pics.   Mac Hayes  
(back) Subject: Fwd: free console (X-post) From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 20:16:03 -0500   This was on the PipeChat and PIPORG-L lists - i told the poster that I would forward it here in case anyone was interested   >From: "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@earthlink.net> >To: <rodgersorgan@freelists.org>, "PipeChat" > <pipechat@pipechat.org>, <PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu> >Subject: free console (X-post) >Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:23:12 -0700 >X-Priority: 3 >Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Sender: <pipechat@pipechat.org> >List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> >List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >Friends, > >I have been trying for 2 years to sell our old Schantz 2m console, >with no success. Therefore, I now must (sadly) give it away, as we >are doing renovations to the church buildings beginning VERY soon, >and need it cleared out of where it is being stored. > >We are located in Southern California - Riverside, to be exact. I >can provide description/photos for anyone who is interested. Next >solution is to make a visit to the dump, which I am loath to do... >it would be a shame to lose the ivory and a decent pedalboard. > >Cheers, > >Jonathan > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system >(<http://www.grisoft.com>http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/02