DIYAPASON-L Digest #649 - Tuesday, September 17, 2002
 
Re: [Residence Organs]  Windy question Details
  by <Pipewheezr@aol.com>
switching/relays - SONIC CREATIONS??
  by "Jonathan Reese" <jreese@digitas.com>
RE: [Residence Organs]  switching/relays - SONIC CREATIONS??
  by "ATOS" <atos@stirlingprop.com>
Sonic Creations Website
  by <Kzimmer0817@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Windy question Details From: <Pipewheezr@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:46:41 EDT   One of the ranks is a Ludwig tone and the other is a free reed clarinet. = The clarinet I've been told can run at 6" w.p. and it won't go louder, that is =   the reason the fellow gave it up. He has an organ with the house built = around it! Thanks for your time and thoughts. Dennis  
(back) Subject: switching/relays - SONIC CREATIONS?? From: "Jonathan Reese" <jreese@digitas.com> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:34:26 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C25E89.9DBD98AE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   There has been some discussion recently about electronics and switching. = =3D Well, there always seems to be some discussion on this topic! =3D20 I was hoping someone out there has some knowledge of Sonic Creations and = =3D would be willing to share a little feedback on their product. I bought = =3D a few of their devices (keyers, magnet drivers, etc.) a few years ago. = =3D Now I have begun serious work on my organ again, and I'd like to decide = =3D whether I should continue to invest with these guys, or go with one of =3D the many other companies I've heard about. =3D20 My recollection is that Don Becker (who runs the company) was a great =3D guy, and extremely helpful to me (I was about 14 at the time). The =3D boards I bought worked fine, and seemed well-made. I just don't have =3D first-hand experience with any of the other systems available. =3D20 many thanks- Jon Reese   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C25E89.9DBD98AE Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <TITLE></TITLE>   <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D470332620-17092002>There=3D20 has been some discussion recently about electronics and switching.&nbsp; = =3D Well,=3D20 there always seems to be some discussion on this =3D topic!</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D470332620-17092002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D470332620-17092002>I was=3D20 hoping someone out there has some knowledge of Sonic Creations and would = =3D be=3D20 willing to share a little feedback on their product.&nbsp; I bought a =3D few of=3D20 their devices (keyers, magnet drivers, etc.) a few years ago.&nbsp; Now = =3D I have=3D20 begun serious work on my organ again, and I'd like to decide whether I =3D should=3D20 continue to invest with these guys, or go with one of the many other =3D companies=3D20 I've heard about.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D470332620-17092002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D470332620-17092002>My=3D20 recollection is that Don Becker (who runs the company) was a great guy, = =3D and=3D20 extremely helpful to me (I was about 14 at the time).&nbsp; The boards I = =3D bought=3D20 worked fine, and seemed well-made.&nbsp; I just don't have first-hand =3D experience=3D20 with any of the other systems available.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D470332620-17092002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D470332620-17092002>many=3D20 thanks-</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#0000ff face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D470332620-17092002>Jon=3D20 Reese</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C25E89.9DBD98AE--  
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] switching/relays - SONIC CREATIONS?? From: "ATOS" <atos@stirlingprop.com> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:11:18 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0008_01C25E64.DAC6D700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Is there a web site for Sonic Creations? I have never heard of them but would like to see what they have to offer.   When I was deciding what relay to use on my organ, the determining factor for any equipment I purchased was simply would the devices be repairable = or maintainable in the future. There are a number of companies making organ controls today. Some are new and some have evolved over the years. In today's business climate, it is not unheard of for well established companies to fail or to be bought out, or go out of business simply = because the owners decided to retire. In the case of proprietary electronic controls, especially chips and other custom manufactured devices, always think ahead ten years to see if you could replace a chip or board if the manufacturer disappeared from the scene. My rule of thumb is that I will only buy a manufactured control if I feel that I could duplicate it, with off-the-shelf parts, if need be. It is conceivable to throw enough money = at a mechanical or diode matrix relay and have it work. Try to get a manufacturer of computer chips to tool up and build you a proprietary microprocessor that hasn't been widely used in years, and you will find = that you face a whole different set of problems. -----Original Message----- From: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org [mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org]On = Behalf Of Jonathan Reese Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 3:34 PM To: Residence Organ List Subject: [Residence Organs] switching/relays - SONIC CREATIONS??     There has been some discussion recently about electronics and switching. Well, there always seems to be some discussion on this topic!   I was hoping someone out there has some knowledge of Sonic Creations and would be willing to share a little feedback on their product. I bought a few of their devices (keyers, magnet drivers, etc.) a few years ago. Now = I have begun serious work on my organ again, and I'd like to decide whether = I should continue to invest with these guys, or go with one of the many = other companies I've heard about.   My recollection is that Don Becker (who runs the company) was a great = guy, and extremely helpful to me (I was about 14 at the time). The boards I bought worked fine, and seemed well-made. I just don't have first-hand experience with any of the other systems available.   many thanks- Jon Reese   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0008_01C25E64.DAC6D700 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE></TITLE> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2719.2200" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D437575520-17092002><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D size=3D3D2>Is=3D20 there a web site for Sonic Creations? I have never heard of them but =3D would like=3D20 to see what they have to offer.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D437575520-17092002><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D   size=3D3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D437575520-17092002><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D size=3D3D2>When I=3D20 was deciding what relay to use on my organ, the determining factor for =3D any=3D20 equipment I purchased was simply would the devices be repairable or =3D maintainable=3D20 in the future. There are a number of companies making organ controls =3D today. Some=3D20 are new and some have evolved over the years. In today's business =3D climate, it is=3D20 not unheard of for well established companies to fail or to be bought =3D out, or go=3D20 out of business simply because the owners decided to retire. In the case = =3D of=3D20 proprietary electronic controls, especially chips and other custom =3D manufactured=3D20 devices, always think ahead ten years to see if you could replace a chip = =3D or=3D20 board if the manufacturer disappeared from the scene. My rule of thumb =3D is that I=3D20 will only buy a&nbsp;manufactured control if I feel that I could=3D20 duplicate&nbsp;it, with off-the-shelf&nbsp;parts, if need be. It&nbsp;is = =3D   conceivable to throw enough money at a&nbsp;mechanical&nbsp;or diode =3D matrix=3D20 relay and have it work. Try to get a manufacturer of computer chips to =3D tool up=3D20 and build you a proprietary microprocessor that hasn't been&nbsp;widely = =3D used in=3D20 years, and you will find that you face a whole different set of=3D20 problems.&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr style=3D3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=3D3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3D3Dltr align=3D3Dleft><FONT =3D face=3D3DTahoma=3D20 size=3D3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =3D DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org=3D20 [mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Jonathan=3D20 Reese<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 17, 2002 3:34 =3D PM<BR><B>To:</B>=3D20 Residence Organ List<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Residence Organs] =3D switching/relays -=3D20 SONIC CREATIONS??<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial color=3D3D#0000ff size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D470332620-17092002>There has been some discussion recently =3D about=3D20 electronics and switching.&nbsp; Well, there always seems to be = some=3D20 discussion on this topic!</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial color=3D3D#0000ff size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D470332620-17092002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial color=3D3D#0000ff size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D470332620-17092002>I=3D20 was hoping someone out there has some knowledge of Sonic Creations and = =3D would=3D20 be willing to share a little feedback on their product.&nbsp; I bought = =3D a few=3D20 of their devices (keyers, magnet drivers, etc.) a few years ago.&nbsp; = =3D Now I=3D20 have begun serious work on my organ again, and I'd like to decide =3D whether I=3D20 should continue to invest with these guys, or go with one of the many = =3D other=3D20 companies I've heard about.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial color=3D3D#0000ff size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D470332620-17092002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial color=3D3D#0000ff size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D470332620-17092002>My=3D20 recollection is that Don Becker (who runs the company) was a great =3D guy, and=3D20 extremely helpful to me (I was about 14 at the time).&nbsp; The boards = =3D I=3D20 bought worked fine, and seemed well-made.&nbsp; I just don't have =3D first-hand=3D20 experience with any of the other systems =3D available.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial color=3D3D#0000ff size=3D3D2><SPAN=3D20 class=3D3D470332620-17092002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial color=3D3D#0000ff size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D470332620-17092002>many=3D20 thanks-</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial color=3D3D#0000ff size=3D3D2><SPAN =3D class=3D3D470332620-17092002>Jon=3D20 Reese</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0008_01C25E64.DAC6D700--    
(back) Subject: Sonic Creations Website From: <Kzimmer0817@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:52:41 EDT     --part1_196.d5e80be.2ab8fe29_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I don't much at all about these systems. I'm just trying to learn so I'll =   know something when I get ready to start rewiring my organ. I searched on =   Google and found the following website for Sonic Creations.   http://electronicorgans.com/   They have a link to their online catalog.   Keith Zimmerman Commerce, Georgia   --part1_196.d5e80be.2ab8fe29_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I don't much at all about these systems.&nbsp; = I'm just trying to learn so I'll know something when I get ready to start = rewiring my organ.&nbsp; I searched on Google and found the following = website for Sonic Creations.<BR> <BR> http://electronicorgans.com/<BR> <BR> They have a link to their online catalog.<BR> <BR> Keith Zimmerman<BR> Commerce, Georgia</FONT></HTML>   --part1_196.d5e80be.2ab8fe29_boundary--