DIYAPASON-L Digest #858 - Monday, August 11, 2003
 
vox-in-a-box
  by "Lloyd Collins" <lcollins@premiermeansbusiness.com>
RE: [Residence Organs]  vox-in-a-box
  by "atos" <atos@stirlingprop.com>
RE: [Residence Organs]  vox-in-a-box more
  by "atos" <atos@stirlingprop.com>
Some more observations and problems
  by "Paul Soulek" <pipeorganpaul@yahoo.com>
 

(back) Subject: vox-in-a-box From: "Lloyd Collins" <lcollins@premiermeansbusiness.com> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 19:25:57 -0500   Hi List,   I was interested in Jon Habermaas's comment about a Moller vox-in-a-box . I got something along those lines when I bought the Wicks I'm rebuilding. It is a box about 3.5 feet square. Inside are several 'terraces" bored with holes for the blocks. Yep, the blocks of the Vox pipes set directly in holes bored in the wood to the block diameter . There are no pipe boots although they could have them as there appears to be no difference in these blocks and any other reed block I've seen. On the rear of the inside board with the pipe "terraces" are the valves with wind passages bored through to the pipe feet. The action is direct electric with Klann magnets. The box has a front and top that can be opened as desired to control the sound of the rank. ( Isn't this what Audsley condemned so thoroughly?)   From the look of the wiring and placement in the chamber, I must assume that this rank was part of the installation when it was placed in the church where I found the organ. Local legend says the organ lived in some mid-Missouri theater before going to the church and the Vox may have been there also, but the Wicks description of the organ from the opus number does not mention a Vox or any other reed rank as being part of it. It also has a Dulciana rank on the main chest that was not in the Wicks specs. It has the same old cotton insulated wiring, which I'm replacing, but the magnets look newer than those of the specified three original ranks ( Diapason, Flute , and Viol). Chimes and a stopped diapason rank were obviously much more recent additions. I think I've got a hybrid ! It will surely be when I add the extra ranks I've collected this year.   Any information on the origin of the vox-box or on the Wicks "unit orchestras" would be appreciated.   Best of success with your projects and thanks for your help with mine.   Lloyd Collins College Mound, Mo.    
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] vox-in-a-box From: "atos" <atos@stirlingprop.com> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 21:15:48 -0500   I recently gave a repair estimate on Wicks Opus 1045, a 1931 vintage church organ at Our Lady Star Of The Sea Catholic Church in New Orleans, which had a vox-in-a-box. I have a good photo of the unit on my New Orleans Churches website (www.neworleanschurches.com). The direct link to the page with the vox is: http://www.neworleanschurches.com/StarofSea/organpage.htm. It is a 3.5 foot box as you describe, and it has a sliding door on the front to control the balance of the vox against the rest of the organ. Be sure to click on the photo to get an enlarged version.     -----Original Message----- From: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org [mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Lloyd Collins Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:26 PM To: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org Subject: [Residence Organs] vox-in-a-box     Hi List,   I was interested in Jon Habermaas's comment about a Moller vox-in-a-box . I got something along those lines when I bought the Wicks I'm rebuilding. It is a box about 3.5 feet square. Inside are several 'terraces" bored with holes for the blocks. Yep, the blocks of the Vox pipes set directly in holes bored in the wood to the block diameter . There are no pipe boots although they could have them as there appears to be no difference in these blocks and any other reed block I've seen. On the rear of the inside board with the pipe "terraces" are the valves with wind passages bored through to the pipe feet. The action is direct electric with Klann magnets. The box has a front and top that can be opened as desired to control the sound of the rank. ( Isn't this what Audsley condemned so thoroughly?)   From the look of the wiring and placement in the chamber, I must assume that this rank was part of the installation when it was placed in the church where I found the organ. Local legend says the organ lived in some mid-Missouri theater before going to the church and the Vox may have been there also, but the Wicks description of the organ from the opus number does not mention a Vox or any other reed rank as being part of it. It also has a Dulciana rank on the main chest that was not in the Wicks specs. It has the same old cotton insulated wiring, which I'm replacing, but the magnets look newer than those of the specified three original ranks ( Diapason, Flute , and Viol). Chimes and a stopped diapason rank were obviously much more recent additions. I think I've got a hybrid ! It will surely be when I add the extra ranks I've collected this year.   Any information on the origin of the vox-box or on the Wicks "unit orchestras" would be appreciated.   Best of success with your projects and thanks for your help with mine.   Lloyd Collins College Mound, Mo.   DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own Residence Pipe Organs. HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org          
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] vox-in-a-box more From: "atos" <atos@stirlingprop.com> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:19:09 -0500   An additional note: we also maintain Wicks Opus 838 which is a 1925 = theatre organ transplanted in a church. This instrument has a 5 rank chest with = the vox exposed and on the main chest. We also have Wicks Opus 433 here in = town which is also a unit orchestra theatre organ and it also has the vox exposed. The lineup on Opus 838 is a horn diapason, violin, concert flute, tibia and vox.   -----Original Message----- From: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org [mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of atos Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:16 PM To: Residence Organ List Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] vox-in-a-box     I recently gave a repair estimate on Wicks Opus 1045, a 1931 vintage = church organ at Our Lady Star Of The Sea Catholic Church in New Orleans, which = had a vox-in-a-box. I have a good photo of the unit on my New Orleans Churches website (www.neworleanschurches.com). The direct link to the page with = the vox is: http://www.neworleanschurches.com/StarofSea/organpage.htm. It is a 3.5 = foot box as you describe, and it has a sliding door on the front to control the balance of the vox against the rest of the organ. Be sure to click on the photo to get an enlarged version.     -----Original Message----- From: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org [mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Lloyd Collins Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:26 PM To: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org Subject: [Residence Organs] vox-in-a-box     Hi List,   I was interested in Jon Habermaas's comment about a Moller vox-in-a-box . = I got something along those lines when I bought the Wicks I'm rebuilding. = It is a box about 3.5 feet square. Inside are several 'terraces" bored with holes for the blocks. Yep, the blocks of the Vox pipes set directly in holes bored in the wood to the block diameter . There are no pipe boots although they could have them as there appears to be no difference in = these blocks and any other reed block I've seen. On the rear of the inside board with the pipe "terraces" are the valves with wind passages bored through = to the pipe feet. The action is direct electric with Klann magnets. The box has a front and top that can be opened as desired to control the sound of the rank. ( Isn't this what Audsley condemned so thoroughly?)   From the look of the wiring and placement in the chamber, I must assume that this rank was part of the installation when it was placed in the church where I found the organ. Local legend says the organ lived in some mid-Missouri theater before going to the church and the Vox may have been there also, but the Wicks description of the organ from the opus number does not mention a Vox or any other reed rank as being part of it. It also has a Dulciana rank on the main chest that was not in the Wicks specs. It has the same old cotton insulated wiring, which I'm replacing, but the magnets look newer than those of the specified three original ranks ( Diapason, Flute , and Viol). Chimes and a stopped diapason rank were obviously much more recent additions. I think I've got a hybrid ! It will surely be when I add the extra ranks I've collected this year.   Any information on the origin of the vox-box or on the Wicks "unit orchestras" would be appreciated.   Best of success with your projects and thanks for your help with mine.   Lloyd Collins College Mound, Mo.   DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own Residence Pipe Organs. HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org         DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own Residence Pipe Organs. HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org          
(back) Subject: Some more observations and problems From: "Paul Soulek" <pipeorganpaul@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 20:21:26 -0700 (PDT)   Hi list,   Here are a few other observations/questions related to the organ problem:   I bought and replaced all of the ICs on the board. Still the same problem---all the pipes came on.   Something strange: when the hex Schmitt trigger was removed totally, the pipes still all came on.   My electronics man said that a diode was bad. I'm looking for a generic for that (it's a Rodgers part #1410-167) We tried the diode from the other chest and still had the same problem.   I'm really at a loss. We spent 2 1/2 hours testing things tonight and still really don't know what's wrong, except for the blown diode.   Thanks for your help!!! Paul   __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com