DIYAPASON-L Digest #748 - Tuesday, February 11, 2003
 
Shallots & Dollars
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Automotive Toggle Switches for Stop Tabs
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
RE: [Residence Organs]  Automotive Toggle Switches for Stop Tabs
  by "ATOS" <atos@stirlingprop.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Automotive Toggle Switches for Stop Tabs
  by "Larry Chace" <RLC1@etnainstruments.com>
Re: Automotive Toggle Switches for Stop Tabs
  by "Larry Chace" <RLC1@etnainstruments.com>
Chest Identification
  by "firman1" <firman1@prodigy.net>
 

(back) Subject: Shallots & Dollars From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:18:31 -0600   Well, yes, but then a dollar went a lot farther in those days. ;>)   Dennis Steckley   Ich liebe meine Katzen   -----Original Message----- > I must have been moving in the wrong organ circles! It has been YEARS > since any of my 'organ friends' had enough dollar bills that they could use > one for ANYTHING, leastways cleaning reeds... > ";-) >      
(back) Subject: Automotive Toggle Switches for Stop Tabs From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:25:35 -0600   Do any of you have any experience using, say, automotive toggle switches as stop tabs. There is a "batwing" style that would certainly be convenient to use, and a lot cheaper than new organ switches. Obviously, this wouldn't be compatible with a modern combo action that moves the switches physically. But, OTOH, I'm thinking of saving money, either initially before upgrading to stop tabs and a combo system or perhaps just doing without the combo system. For my own playing, the combo would be a luxury, not a necessity. If Bach could do without it, perhaps I could, too.   What think ye?   Dennis Steckley   Ich liebe meine Katzen        
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] Automotive Toggle Switches for Stop Tabs From: "ATOS" <atos@stirlingprop.com> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:39:28 -0600   Bat handle toggle switches have been used as stop switches. I remember seeing an article recently on a complete console, done by a young man who was an organ student, wherein he and his father built a functioning organ using computer sound cards for sound generation. His console used toggle switches. Forty years ago, when I was in high school, I did a science project where I built an electronic organ, using vacuum tube oscillators, and employed the old nickel-plated switches of the day as stops. Other = than the "click" noise, they also did the job. If you have doubt that an organ can be played without a combination action, you should speak to = professional organist Tom Hoehn. He did a two-hour concert for my ATOS chapter, = including a screening of "Phantom", on a 2-10 Wurlitzer with a still-to-be-restored combination machine. There was a lot of stop-flipping going on, but he performed a flawless concert in spite of not having that feature = available. I would say that as a temporary measure just to get you up-and-playing, toggle switches would be worth considering.   -----Original Message----- From: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org [mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:26 AM To: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org Subject: [Residence Organs] Automotive Toggle Switches for Stop Tabs     Do any of you have any experience using, say, automotive toggle switches as stop tabs. There is a "batwing" style that would certainly be convenient to use, and a lot cheaper than new organ switches. Obviously, this wouldn't be compatible with a modern combo action that moves the switches physically. But, OTOH, I'm thinking of saving money, either initially before upgrading to stop tabs and a combo system or perhaps just doing without the combo system. For my own playing, the combo would be a luxury, not a necessity. If Bach could do without it, perhaps I could, too.   What think ye?   Dennis Steckley   Ich liebe meine Katzen         DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own Residence Pipe Organs. HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Automotive Toggle Switches for Stop Tabs From: "Larry Chace" <RLC1@etnainstruments.com> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:27:59 -0500   It may be difficult to do the "sweep of the hand" General Cancel with toggle "stops" that have a strongish spring, and of course it is a bit = more difficult to engrave the toggle with the full stopname and pitch! ;-)   Lest mechanical action organ proponents think this is an irrelevant subject, my "opus 1" used automotive choke cable assemblies to operate the sliders on the 4-rank Barkhoff chest that served as the Great division. I should have included a lever so that the knob moved twice or three times = as far as the slider (and therefore required somewhat less force), but even so, it worked. Of course, all four ranks were "Choke", and that confused = a few people! (More proper stopnames might have been "Choke", "Gasp", "Groan", and "Moan".)   Larry Chace      
(back) Subject: Re: Automotive Toggle Switches for Stop Tabs From: "Larry Chace" <RLC1@etnainstruments.com> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:20:56 -0500   On a slightly more serious note, there is sometimes a problem with doing thing too cheaply, namely, the risk of a general "cheapening" of the project. I'm not suggesting that huge amounts of money be spent on everything, but I know from my own projects (of all sorts) that if *I* don't take the project seriously, then the results may fall short of their potential, perhaps quite a bit short.   In the case of stop controls, it might be possible to find a now-orphaned set of stoptabs (or knobs or rocking tablets) that can be fitted to the = new project and still give it an "organic" look. (That still begs the = question of engraving, however.)   A small instrument by a local builder (A. Richard Strauss, Ithaca, NY) has stoptabs that he made of wood, nicely lettered in India ink. I don't know what sort of hinge or toggle mechanism he used, but it might not be too difficult to design and build a simple over-center spring device as well = as some appropriate contacts. At any rate, the appearance of these tabs is quite fine.   Various types of knobs (wooden, metal, ceramic, etc.) are available for = use on furniture and cabinetry, and perhaps something like that could be = worked up into some attractive stopknobs, with some nicely-lettered labels nearby (as was common in years long gone by).   Larry Chace      
(back) Subject: Chest Identification From: "firman1" <firman1@prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 17:18:34 -0600   Greetings everyone, I recently acquired some chests, one of which I need help identifying. the chest is obviously Duplexed. There are two straight, not U-shaped, magnets that were labeled Great and Swell, respectively. Their are two channel boards containing single-headed pitman "cut-offs" that are energized (or De-energized) by the magnets. There are two cloth-covered pneumatics per pipe hole, connected via wooden rods to a single pallet on a bell-crank. If you can identify this, please let me know. Is it Aeolian? If you wish to see photos, go to: http://photos.yahoo.com/firman1@prodigy.net and click on My Photos. The story of the acquisition will follow soon. Thank you, Berley Antoine Firmin II Bayou La Combe, Louisiana