DIYAPASON-L Digest #756 - Thursday, February 20, 2003
 
Keyboard rebushing
  by "James Henry" <jimhen3ry@earthlink.net>
Wurlitzer console finishes
  by "James Henry" <jimhen3ry@earthlink.net>
Need direction on organ control
  by <Pfdad@aol.com>
My Photo Album
  by "danielwh" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Wurlitzer console finishes
  by "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net>
Organ Thursday
  by "danielwh" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Wurlitzer Keyboard Second Touch
  by "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net>
A new residence installation...
  by "John Haskey" <johnh@haskey.net>
Another residence organ in the news...
  by "John Haskey" <johnh@haskey.net>
 

(back) Subject: Keyboard rebushing From: "James Henry" <jimhen3ry@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:07:15 -0800   I found this web site that has very detailed information about keyboard rebushing: http://www.spurlocktools.com/welcome.htm I know I will need to rebush my keys because the oval pins are already turned too much. The first job for an offset key spacer once I get one is to turn the pins square to the front so I can start to evaluate what needs to be done.   It seems like oval pins vary somewhat in size, at least in pianos. I = don't seem to find sized offset key spacers though. Are key spacers one size = fits all?   Jim Henry   PS Thanks to all who provided all the useful tidbits about keyboard = second touch. I will summarize my experiences with this when the keyboard = rebuild is complete. I plan on adjusting to Al Sefl's specs. 22 ounces sounds = more appropriate for pedal second touch or a way of not having second touch.    
(back) Subject: Wurlitzer console finishes From: "James Henry" <jimhen3ry@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:20:40 -0800   I need to develop a plan for refinishing my console. I am trying to = restore the console to something that reasonably resemble how the console might = have originally been done by Wurlitzer. Does anyone know what sorts of = finishes Wurlitzer used on consoles? Are the natural wood consoles stained and shellaced?   The exterior wood of my console is in terrible shape. If I keep it = natural wood, I have a really major veneering project ahead of me. I am thinking = of going to the white and gold paint style so I can use fillers as necessary. Any tips for doing this type finish?   My most immediate concern is how the key cheeks and the strip under the = keys should be finished since I will want to do that very soon so I can reassemble the keyboard. It seems like the wood was first stained fairly dark and then a black paint like finish applied to the visible portions. Judging from the areas that were protected by being under the screw heads, it seems like the finish was satin or gloss. However, this console has = had so many alterations I never know if what I am looking at is original. = Does anybody know if there was a standard Wurlitzer practice for the trim = around the keyboards and what that was?   Thanks, Jim Henry    
(back) Subject: Need direction on organ control From: <Pfdad@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 08:07:17 EST   Hello list: I have a moderate beginning on a residence organ which will have significant restrictions on budget. My main goals with this instrument = are to have a few ranks to play and learn the organ and to foster more = interest in music among my kids. My secondary interest is technical and these are terrifically interesting! I have a 3 manual/pedal console from an electronic church organ, gutted = of electronics but still containing the keyboards, stop rockers, pedal board = and 3 expression shoes. All devices have wire bundles still connected but not =   terminated. I would like some ideas on how to hook the components of the organ up, leaving room for expansion. I realize there are a number of approaches one might take but again, cost is a major consideration. I'm = not concerned about the type of connectors, etc., but the overall scheme of connection. I also have two Kilgen windchests, a couple of Wicks windchests, a = couple of unidentified windchests and will soon add a 6 rank Estey windchest. I = am getting whatever is available and affordable; I want to investigate the internals of different brands so this is the reason for the variety. I = have a Wicks regulator with trem penthouse on top. None of these items are = hooked up yet except by occasional vacuum cleaner and 12V power supply to = entertain the family. My total complement of pipes will be 8' Bourdon, 8' Dulciana, = 8' Voix Celeste and 4' Traverse Flute. Will continue adding as can find. = Still need a blower. After that preamble, I am looking for inexpensive means to hook up and control these things. I am performing due diligence in going through the = DIY and Piporg archives but that is a slow process. I am thinking of computer =   control running under software and wired through the parallel port. I realize this is more than a 3-evening Heathkit and would appreciate = any suggestions!!!   Phil Fentress Memphis TN  
(back) Subject: My Photo Album From: "danielwh" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:19:42 -0400   http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=3D4290639559 I hope anyone interested checks this out, It is some pictures of my Pipe Organ, me, my cats, Churches I have visited, and my parents Danielwh p.s. more to come     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Wurlitzer console finishes From: "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 13:21:40 -0800   The late Charlie Hershmann, my mentor, as well as the late Dick Villeman, both told me that the original factory finish used by Wurlitzer on their stock 'bottom-of-the-line' consoles was Mohawk anilyne (sp?) dye, in 'deep-red mahogany' colour. If you've ever seen a 1920s piano, or an original 1920s cheap pine or oak bedroom set, you've seen this colour. I had my Aeolian Orchestrelle refinished in this colour, as the original finish, whatever it was, had been completely stripped off down to bare wood, and the dark reddish-brown was the most attractive, and also most traditional, colour that I could think of. You should be able to find it at most good paint stores.   Personal opinion: white and gold is really nice, but almost impossible to keep clean. I used to have an antique-and-white Spencer 4-manual theatre organ console, and no matter how often I cleaned it, it ALWAYS looked dirty. Ditto the gold-painted Gesso on the 3-manual Wurlitzer I recently sold: pretty, but always looked dirty. The best I've seen is either the stock red-brown, or the black-and-gold of opus 1142 I have now. The = smooth finish is easy to wipe off, and the black doesn't show the dust nearly as well as the white or the gold.   At 10:20 PM 2/18/03 -0800, James Henry wrote: >I need to develop a plan for refinishing my console. I am trying to = restore >the console to something that reasonably resemble how the console might = have >originally been done by Wurlitzer. Does anyone know what sorts of = finishes >Wurlitzer used on consoles? Are the natural wood consoles stained and >shellaced? > >The exterior wood of my console is in terrible shape. If I keep it = natural >wood, I have a really major veneering project ahead of me. I am thinking = of >going to the white and gold paint style so I can use fillers as = necessary. >Any tips for doing this type finish? > >My most immediate concern is how the key cheeks and the strip under the = keys >should be finished since I will want to do that very soon so I can >reassemble the keyboard. It seems like the wood was first stained fairly >dark and then a black paint like finish applied to the visible portions. >Judging from the areas that were protected by being under the screw = heads, >it seems like the finish was satin or gloss. However, this console has = had >so many alterations I never know if what I am looking at is original. = Does >anybody know if there was a standard Wurlitzer practice for the trim = around >the keyboards and what that was? > >Thanks, >Jim Henry     Regards, Bob, in beautiful Lake County, California, USA http://home.jps.net/~rrloesch/index.htm   "Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep." Scott Adams, "The Dilbert Principle".      
(back) Subject: Organ Thursday From: "danielwh" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 18:24:14 -0400   Tomororw on CBC Radio 2 at 12:45 Eastern time, not Atlantic If you can get CBC RADIO TWO - you might hear part of Joan Lippincott's Concert tomorrow around 12:45 pm. (on Take Five Organ Thursday) The Organ will be the New Letourneau at St. Georges Anglican(ROUND = )Church in Halifax it can be heard via Real Audio link on the cbc site http://www.cbc.ca/audio.html         --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Wurlitzer Keyboard Second Touch From: "Bob Loesch" <rrloesch@jps.net> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:55:38 -0800   The late Tiny James taught me to use the second touch his way, which was = to play the melody, using second touch, and also the accompaniment (without 2T) on one manual, saving the right hand to use for counter melody, accents, riffs, or whatever. A somwhat difficult to master technique, but worth the effort, as it opens up a world of arrangements that would be otherwise impossible. The later Wurlitzers (mine is a 1925 console that's not too badly speced) were better than the earlier ones, as they were = built with that sort of thing in mind, ala Jesse Crawford. Most of the best-laid-out theatre organs I've seen use second-touch mostly for voices, while both of the classical organs I've seen with 2T (both of these were Skinner organs) use them for couplers or combination mechanicals.     At 03:28 PM 2/18/03 -0800, John Vanderlee wrote: >Wurlitzer uses one block of contacts with one (or more?) of the same >set of contacts bent down ward at an angle so that the the first >depression of the key does not touch them. Pressing the key farther >down, past a soft stop, will hit the second touch contact . > >An immediate use is for "accenting " the music, often used with reeds >being the accent. > i.e. when already playing "full organ" it is nice to have the post >horn on second touch so a little bit of "bite" sticks out above the >ensemble when it is used. > >John V     Regards, Bob, in beautiful Lake County, California, USA http://home.jps.net/~rrloesch/index.htm   "Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep." Scott Adams, "The Dilbert Principle".      
(back) Subject: A new residence installation... From: "John Haskey" <johnh@haskey.net> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:24:38 -0800 (PST)     http://www.startribune.com/stories/1405/3657602.html        
(back) Subject: Another residence organ in the news... From: "John Haskey" <johnh@haskey.net> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:26:32 -0800 (PST)     http://www.sacbee.com/content/community_news/el_dorado/story/6146355p-71018= 22c.html