DIYAPASON-L Digest #731 - Wednesday, January 22, 2003
 
Pipe Organ Project
  by <Kzimmer0817@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Pipe Organ Project
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Blower Paint Recommendation
  by <Kzimmer0817@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Pipe Organ Project
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net>
 

(back) Subject: Pipe Organ Project From: <Kzimmer0817@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:27:26 EST     --part1_7b.7e105cd.2b6058ae_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   List,   Well, I finally get to post a little progress on my pipe organ project....   I think the last time I posted any progress it was when I was trying to = get the 2nd fan out of my blower. Following the advice of several, I ordered some Aerokroil and Silikroil. I was starting to get frustrated even after =   trying the Kroil products with the stubbornness of that inner fan. = Finally, I wrapped a plastic covered cable (I just happened to have one around for tying up the dog) around the pulley on the other end of the shaft and = bracing it with a length of 2x4 to keep the shaft from turning. I found that I = could get the fan to move slightly "around" the shaft. With persistence, I was able to get the fan turning stiffly on the shaft enough to move outward. Suddenly, it let go. That was well before Christmas.   I managed to get the 2hp motor off and out of the blower this afternoon. = It seemed that the panel closest to the motor was welded on, and I almost = came up and posted a question in that regard. Using a blade from the inside of =   the blower, I started cutting and peeling nasty greasy felt from the edge. = I'd strike the edge occasionally using a hammer and wood block. I decided = to spray Silikroil along the edge on both sides of this wall thinking that it =   might just be stuck. If it was welded on, I figured I would just make a = mess but wouldn't hurt anything.   I turned the blower housing over so the edge opposite the motor end was = down. Using the hammer and wood block, I struck along the edge a few times. I tho't I could see a slight bit of movement as evidenced by a mm more of = felt seen on the motor side of the housing. With persistence, I realized that = the panel was in fact moving. Lo and behold, it came out.   Now I have the hollow blower housing which is mounted on a couple old = 4x6's. The area around the motor mounts is filthy and greasy. There's a good coating of dried grease inside the housing as well as on the motor itself.   I have a few cans of "Foaming Engine Cleaner" with which I plan to spray = down everything and get it all cleaned up.   After that, I plan to take apart the 3 phase motor and get it cleaned out.   Next, I plan to spray paint everything and get some shiny new steel nuts, bolts, and washers with which to bolt it all back together.   I am having a little problem deciding whether to spray it all glossy black = or use the hunter green. It's not a theatre organ, so I want to spray it a "serious" color. Got any suggestions?   Thanks for the help thus far, Keith Zimmerman, M.D. Commerce, Georgia   --part1_7b.7e105cd.2b6058ae_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">List,<BR> <BR> Well, I finally get to post a little progress on my pipe organ = project....<BR> <BR> I think the last time I posted any progress it was when I was trying to = get the 2nd fan out of my blower.&nbsp; Following the advice of several, I = ordered some Aerokroil and Silikroil.&nbsp; I was starting to get = frustrated even after trying the Kroil products with the stubbornness of = that inner fan.&nbsp; Finally, I wrapped a plastic covered cable (I just = happened to have one around for tying up the dog) around the pulley on the = other end of the shaft and bracing it with a length of 2x4 to keep the = shaft from turning.&nbsp; I found that I could get the fan to move = slightly "around" the shaft.&nbsp; With persistence, I was able to get the = fan turning stiffly on the shaft enough to move outward.&nbsp; Suddenly, = it let go.&nbsp;&nbsp; That was well before Christmas.<BR> <BR> I managed to get the 2hp motor off and out of the blower this = afternoon.&nbsp; It seemed that the panel closest to the motor was welded = on, and I almost came up and posted a question in that regard.&nbsp; Using = a blade from the inside of the blower, I started cutting and peeling nasty greasy felt from the = edge.&nbsp; I'd strike the edge occasionally using a hammer and wood = block.&nbsp; I decided to spray Silikroil along the edge on both sides of = this wall thinking that it might just be stuck.&nbsp; If it was welded on, = I figured I would just make a mess but wouldn't hurt anything.<BR> <BR> I turned the blower housing over so the edge opposite the motor end was = down.&nbsp; Using the hammer and wood block, I struck along the edge a few = times.&nbsp; I tho't I could see a slight bit of movement as evidenced by = a mm more of felt seen on the motor side of the housing.&nbsp; With = persistence, I realized that the panel was in fact moving.&nbsp; Lo and = behold, it came out.<BR> <BR> Now I have the hollow blower housing which is mounted on a couple old = 4x6's.&nbsp; The area around the motor mounts is filthy and greasy.&nbsp; = There's a good coating of dried grease inside the housing as well as on = the motor itself.<BR> <BR> I have a few cans of "Foaming Engine Cleaner" with which I plan to spray = down everything and get it all cleaned up.<BR> <BR> After that, I plan to take apart the 3 phase motor and get it cleaned = out.<BR> <BR> Next, I plan to spray paint everything and get some shiny new steel nuts, = bolts, and washers with which to bolt it all back together.<BR> <BR> I am having a little problem deciding whether to spray it all glossy black = or use the hunter green.&nbsp; It's not a theatre organ, so I want to = spray it a "serious" color.&nbsp; Got any suggestions?<BR> <BR> Thanks for the help thus far,<BR> Keith Zimmerman, M.D.<BR> Commerce, Georgia</FONT></HTML>   --part1_7b.7e105cd.2b6058ae_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Pipe Organ Project From: <GRSCoLVR@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:45:50 EST   Keith--- I bought a new Spencer for a church project 50 years ago,,,it came from = the factory in gloss black all over. I got a "baby spencer" from a midwest organ firm several years = ago,,,looked almost new,,,,was and is machinery grey, including a darker grey primer = under the lighter grey, so I am assuming that was the "factory color" . Hope this helps ---Roc L V Rockafellow New Jersey  
(back) Subject: Blower Paint Recommendation From: <Kzimmer0817@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:06:59 EST     --part1_1cf.90e0c7.2b60a843_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   List,   Much shorter message this time.   What type of paint is recommended for the blower: 1. blower housing - inside and out 2. fans 3. motor casing   a. I'm certain that a spray paint is the type to use. b. I would think that glossy would reduce resistance on the fan blades = and would certainly be more aesthetic on the outside. c. What particular brand(s).   I was told of a type of spray paint - I think it had a German sounding = name - that could be sprayed even over mild rust. I used Rust-o-leum on the = outside of my fuse box upstairs, but it's easily scratched off.   I wondered about taking the blower to a body shop for a coat of automotive =   paint thinking that that would be much tougher.   Thanks, Keith   --part1_1cf.90e0c7.2b60a843_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">List,<BR> <BR> Much shorter message this time.<BR> <BR> What type of paint is recommended for the blower:<BR> 1.&nbsp; blower housing - inside and out<BR> 2.&nbsp; fans<BR> 3.&nbsp; motor casing<BR> <BR> a.&nbsp; I'm certain that a spray paint is the type to use.<BR> b.&nbsp; I would think that glossy would reduce resistance on the fan = blades and would certainly be more aesthetic on the outside.<BR> c.&nbsp; What particular brand(s). <BR> <BR> I was told of a type of spray paint - I think it had a German sounding = name - that could be sprayed even over mild rust.&nbsp; I used Rust-o-leum = on the outside of my fuse box upstairs, but it's easily scratched off.<BR> <BR> I wondered about taking the blower to a body shop for a coat of automotive = paint thinking that that would be much tougher.<BR> <BR> Thanks,<BR> Keith</FONT></HTML>   --part1_1cf.90e0c7.2b60a843_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Pipe Organ Project From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 20:30:35 -0600   At 03:27 PM 1/22/2003 -0500, Dr. Keith wrote: >I am having a little problem deciding whether to spray it all glossy = black >or use the hunter green. It's not a theatre organ, so I want to spray it =   >a "serious" color. Got any suggestions?     Hi, Keith --   Spencer Orgoblos were either machine grey or black, depending on age and size of the machine (as were most other makes of big metal blowers, for that matter). The newer or smaller the Spencer, the greater likelihood that it was grey. Wood box Kinetics were green, but rather a bit brighter =   shade than 'hunter green'. Little modern blowers are often either gray or =   light blue/grey.   For Spencers, I've always been partial to the grey (motor/generator and mounting skids in black). They're handsome machines in that color scheme.   Really and truly, it's *your* blower -- paint it what color you LIKE! = (but make sure to polish up all the nameplates, especially if they're brass!)   Cheers,   Tim