DIYAPASON-L Digest #846 - Saturday, July 19, 2003
 
Fw: [Theatreorgans-L] 2/5 Robert-Morton DUAL ROLL PLAYER FOR SALE
  by "Don Peterson" <dpete.tx@verizon.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Fw: [Theatreorgans-L] 2/5 Robert-Morton DUALROLL 
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@mindspring.com>
Shipping Pipes
  by <Kzimmer0817@aol.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Fw: [Theatreorgans-L] 2/5 Robert-MortonDUALROLL  
  by "Gregory Rister" <grandcornet@earthlink.net>
2/5 Robert-MortonDUALROLL  PLAY...
  by <TheGluePot@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Fw: [Theatreorgans-L] 2/5 Robert-Morton DUAL ROLL PLAYER FOR SALE From: "Don Peterson" <dpete.tx@verizon.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:20:30 -0500   I am cross posting this from the T.O. list. This instrument was =3D originally installed in an apartment in San Francisco. It would be a =3D shame to part it out as it is apparently a unique instrument.   Don ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: RobertMorton24@aol.com=3D20 To: Theatreorgans-L List Member=3D20 Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 11:29 AM Subject: [Theatreorgans-L] 2/5 Robert-Morton DUAL ROLL PLAYER FOR SALE     Hi there fellow listers !   We have a 2/5 Robert-Morton <1924> Residence Organ with dual roll =3D players available for sale. The organ is crated and in storage, ready =3D for shipment in our warehouse/shop in Dallas, TX.   The organ <console> is pictured in it's original home in the Theatre =3D Organ Encyclopedia, Vol II, page 522.   It is our desire to get the organ to an individual or group that will =3D restore and install it intact. This instrument is, to our knowledge, =3D the only one of it's type still existing.   The list of goodies:   16' Tibia 8' Diapason 8' Salicional 8' Trumpet <replaces original Dulciana> 8' Vox Humana Marimba, Xylophone, Glock, Chimes, Vacuum Piano, Extensive Toys/Traps 5 HP Spencer Orgoblo, 3 Phase, converter available Tuned percussions and toys/traps contained in factory built swell = box.=3D20 Two sets of shutters finished and decorated to match the console.   Folks, please help get this rare and unique organ a home. We have a =3D storage crisis that we MUST resolve.   Visit the following website for pictures and more complete details and =3D pictures.   http://hometown.aol.com/robertmorton24/index.html=3D20 Rick Mathews, Dallas, TX 972.896.5761 RobertMorton24@aol.com  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Fw: [Theatreorgans-L] 2/5 Robert-Morton DUALROLL PLAYER FOR SALE From: "Mac Hayes" <mach37@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 13:07:45 -0700   > We have a 2/5 Robert-Morton <1924> Residence Organ with dual roll > players available for sale. ... > > 16' Tibia > 8' Diapason > 8' Salicional > 8' Trumpet <replaces original Dulciana> > 8' Vox Humana > Marimba, Xylophone, Glock, Chimes, Vacuum Piano, Extensive Toys/Traps > 5 HP Spencer Orgoblo, 3 Phase, converter available     Was a 5 HP blower really necessary? Granted that a theater installation would require a lot of wind, wouldn't a 5 rank instrument designed for a residence have needed a considerably smaller motor? Maybe Morton found it cheaper to use a larger motor that they had on hand, rather than special-order something smaller? Or, do all the percussions need the extra wind?   Mac Hayes  
(back) Subject: Shipping Pipes From: <Kzimmer0817@aol.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 18:07:49 EDT   Listers,   I apologize for sending this to both lists, but, sometimes the DIY list isn't as active. Anyway, I will very likely be shipping some ranks of pipes. How is the best way and most cost effective way for us amateurs to do this? As "little guys" we don't have accounts with large shipping companies.   Do we ship in our pipe crates? Do we ship in special cardboard boxes? Do we use UPS, FedEx, or some kind of trucking company?   I would appreciate some practical advice in this matter - especially with respect to an amateur who wants to ship 4-6 ranks of pipes.   Thanks, Keith    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Fw: [Theatreorgans-L] 2/5 Robert-MortonDUALROLL PLAYER FOR SALE From: "Gregory Rister" <grandcornet@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 20:1:18 -0700   Hi List,   This is a very good question, and there is a very good answer for it. Unlike the classical organ, which is generally a closed system, except to the extent that valves are opened to make pipes play, a theatre organ has a major built in wind leak -- the tremulants. The tremulants on a theatre organ dump a substantial amount of wind to create the proper vibrato, and a smaller blower can be overwhelmed by the demand from both this source and the playing of pipes. I have four ranks of my instrument fully playable on a 1 hp Spencer. With all three trems running (Tibia, Vox and Solo; so far), a large chord reveals rather major wind starvation. I have a 5 hp Spencer waiting in the wings to accommodate this and the additional ranks to be added, many of which are low pressure, rather than high pressure. This probably accounts for the seemingly inordinately large blowers used by theatre instruments, and if you're installing one, you really need to take the number of tremulants into account.   Greg Rister Pipe Organ Craftsmen Pomona, California     > [Original Message] > From: Mac Hayes <mach37@mindspring.com> > To: Residence Organ List <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> > Date: 07/19/2003 1:07:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Fw: [Theatreorgans-L] 2/5 Robert-MortonDUALROLL PLAYER FOR SALE > > > We have a 2/5 Robert-Morton <1924> Residence Organ with dual roll > > players available for sale. ... > > > > 16' Tibia > > 8' Diapason > > 8' Salicional > > 8' Trumpet <replaces original Dulciana> > > 8' Vox Humana > > Marimba, Xylophone, Glock, Chimes, Vacuum Piano, Extensive Toys/Traps > > 5 HP Spencer Orgoblo, 3 Phase, converter available > > > Was a 5 HP blower really necessary? Granted that a theater installation > would require a lot of wind, wouldn't a 5 rank instrument designed for a > residence have needed a considerably smaller motor? Maybe Morton found it > cheaper to use a larger motor that they had on hand, rather than > special-order something smaller? Or, do all the percussions need the > extra wind? > > Mac Hayes > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > Residence Pipe Organs. > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org >       --- Gregory Rister --- grandcornet@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet.      
(back) Subject: 2/5 Robert-MortonDUALROLL PLAY... From: <TheGluePot@aol.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 00:18:43 EDT   On that particular organ the blower was in the basement of the apartment house and the organ was many floors above. Thus, the blower was a bit larger than a person might expect. However, I took care of the last original Robert Morton installation in San Francisco until two years ago. It was a 2/6 and with a 5HP blower too. Morton did not skimp when it came to winding their instruments. They figured about 1HP per rank on many instruments. High pressure, tremulants, belt run generators, and unification all add up when you do the computations.   Best wishes to everyone,   Al Sefl