DIYAPASON-L Digest #911 - Friday, October 31, 2003
 
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: DIY trackers?
  by "Richard Dickerman" <RDICKERMAN@msn.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: DIY trackers?
  by <AL12TONE@aol.com>
Re: DIY trackers?
  by "Ed Stauff" <ed@mewsic.com>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Re: DIY trackers?
  by "Tony Newnham" <organist.tony@btinternet.com>
Trackers
  by "wcjharrisville" <wcjharrisville@webryders.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Trackers
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Suspended Action
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
RE: [Residence Organs]  Paper pipes
  by "Gregory Rister" <grandcornet@earthlink.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: DIY trackers? From: "Richard Dickerman" <RDICKERMAN@msn.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 05:24:39 -0500   Scott:   I don't know what books you have reference to, but I can suggest = the following:   Wicks, Mark, " Organ Building for Amateurs " Milne, H.F., How to Build a Small Two Manual Chamber Pipe Organ " = =20 ----- and   Dickson, W.F., " Practical Organ Building " =20 The first two are available from the Orgab Literature Foundation, = Braintree, Ma, and the last from The Organ Historical Society/   Finally, there is the massive two volume classic, Audsley, " The = Art of Orgaan Building " available from The Organ Historical Society.   I hope this information will be of some use.   = Dick.   Original Message -----=20   =20 From: Mac Hayes=20 To: Residence Organ List=20 Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: DIY trackers?     "Scott E." wrote: > ... Most of the > books I have read don't go into the nuts and bolts enough to aid in = a > construction project. I would certainly appreciate anyone on the = list > recommending such a resource.     Amen. The only comments I have ever read on any list (that I can remember) that dealt with how to adjust the key pressure/weight was = Larry Chace's recent description of the console of his first home-built = organ.   Mac Hayes   DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own=20 Residence Pipe Organs. HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: DIY trackers? From: <AL12TONE@aol.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:24:37 EST   Couldn't help but note...   snip   << Finally, there is the massive two volume classic, Audsley, " The Art = of Orgaan Building " >> snip   especially good for Dutch inspired instruments?   Al Blatter    
(back) Subject: Re: DIY trackers? From: "Ed Stauff" <ed@mewsic.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:40:24 -0500   Tony Newham wrote: >Please let me know if you come across any other reference material   It doesn't sound like there's much available that's not a century old. If =   I ever get this project past the armchair stage, I plan to keep a detailed =   journal and eventually turn it into a book (or web site) on How (Not) To Build a Pipe Organ.   Scott E. wrote: >With the French Classic design you wish to achieve, I would certainly >attempt to include a Harmonic Flute, even if at the 4' register.   According to Douglass's "The Language of the French Classical Organ", harmonic flutes weren't in general use. Not that I would let that stop me =   from putting one in, though I've never been particularly fond of harmonic flutes.   Keith Zimmerman wrote: >Find a copy of "How to Build a Small Two Manual Chamber Pipe Organ" >by Milne. ... Another book that is very similar is "Organbuilding >for Amateurs" by Mark Wicks.   Try "http://www.addall.com" to search for used copies; both books can be found there.   -- Ed       +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Edward L. Stauff ed@mewsic.REMOVE_THIS_SPAMGUARD.com | | Itinerant musician, software engineer, dad, bibliophile, cohouser, | | husband, microferroequinologist, woodworker, author (order varies). | | "Specialization is for insects." -- Lazarus Long (R. A. Heinlein) | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: DIY trackers? From: "Tony Newnham" <organist.tony@btinternet.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:35:10 -0000   Hi   From what I remember of Audsley, it's not a "how to do it" book. I have = a copy on the shelves, but haven't looked at it for a while!   Milne & Dickson are both OK, but dated - there are other ideas for = laying out tracker action - esp. suspended action, if you've got the = height, that modern builders use.   Every Blessing   Tony ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Richard Dickerman=20 To: Residence Organ List=20 Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: DIY trackers?     Scott:   I don't know what books you have reference to, but I can suggest = the following:   Wicks, Mark, " Organ Building for Amateurs " Milne, H.F., How to Build a Small Two Manual Chamber Pipe Organ = " =20 ----- and   Dickson, W.F., " Practical Organ Building " =20 The first two are available from the Orgab Literature = Foundation, Braintree, Ma, and the last from The Organ Historical = Society/   Finally, there is the massive two volume classic, Audsley, " = The Art of Orgaan Building " available from The Organ Historical = Society.   I hope this information will be of some use.   = Dick.   Original Message -----=20   =20 From: Mac Hayes=20 To: Residence Organ List=20 Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Re: DIY trackers?     "Scott E." wrote: > ... Most of the > books I have read don't go into the nuts and bolts enough to aid = in a > construction project. I would certainly appreciate anyone on the = list > recommending such a resource.     Amen. The only comments I have ever read on any list (that I can remember) that dealt with how to adjust the key pressure/weight was = Larry Chace's recent description of the console of his first home-built = organ.   Mac Hayes   DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own=20 Residence Pipe Organs. HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org          
(back) Subject: Trackers From: "wcjharrisville" <wcjharrisville@webryders.net> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:17:51 -0500   I have had the book "Organ Building for Amateurs" by Mark Wicks - first = printing somewhere around 1887. I have read this book from = cover-to-cover many times over the years. I believe that Mark Wicks = knew organs inside and out, had a firm grip on mechanics and the use of = tools, was an expert artist/illustrator, a master of the written word = and a most frequent visitor to a number of organbuilders. However, I do = not believe that Mark Wicks ever actually built a working organ! He may = have experimented with making some examples of certain organ parts and = pipes to satisfy his curiosity, but I seriously doubt that a working = organ ever emerged from his workshop. Making paper pipes so intrigued = me that I set about to make a few experimental pipes - (completely = ignoring the fact that no organ builder has ever used paper pipes). The = answer "why" was quickly made apparent at the first change of humidity. = Every pipe I made was rendered speechless! These are just my personal = thoughts - and I will accept correction most graciously. Will  
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Trackers From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 13:56:33 +1300   >- (completely ignoring the fact that no organ builder has ever used paper pipes). The answer "why" was quickly made apparent at the first change of humidity. Every pipe I made was rendered speechless! These are just my personal thoughts - and I will accept correction most graciously   For some years I owned a Mark-Wick-model organ with all the pipes being = made of paper/cardboard. They had fine wooden mouth parts and only were easy to tune but stayed in tune as well. Tone was soft and gentle, but = interestingly musical, but the basses were weak. The five ranks were on a slider chest = and the scheme was: 8 Open Diapason (1-12 stopt) 8 Gedackt 8 Keraulophon (1-12 grooved to Ged.) 4 Principal 2 Fifteenth   Even the top notes of ther 2ft were of cardboard. All pipes were painted silver inside and out and the toeholes were very small. Mouths were narow but fairly high the approx.2.5 inches of pressure.   I eventually sold this organ to a friend and he later destroyed those = pipes but retained the chest.   Ross      
(back) Subject: Suspended Action From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 19:56:23 -0500   Hi Group, Long time no post. Have expanded my horizons a bit by following some of the new organ groups on Yahoo, but still read the David Scribner groups and Piporg-L religiously. It's kind of amazing how the Internet activity surrounding the organ community has expanded in the 3 short years I have been following along. The educational value is immense. Although any DIY organ I might become involved with would most likely be possessed of some form of electric action or electo-pneumatics, I still relish the instruction on tracker instruments. I am a mechanic by trade, so anything involving machinery in organ action is most fascinating also. My question is more a request for those on this list who are willing and have the time, to review the construction and terminology related to tracker instruments. I have seen terms such as "back fall", "square rail", "tracker", and "sticker" used in tracker organ descriptions, but still have some trouble visualizing how these parts work together to operate the pallets, and how the mechanical combination systems are constructed. I am also most interested to know the difference between "suspended action", and other types of tracker action, and what are their names. It would be great to hear about the history of tracker action, what materials were used, and how the modern tracker instruments are constructed differently and what modern materials they use. Thanks for your time and help Mike Gettelman    
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] Paper pipes From: "Gregory Rister" <grandcornet@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:27:16 -0800   Could not copy the message to the digest, there was no plain text part