DIYAPASON-L Digest #951 - Sunday, February 1, 2004
 
Re: [Residence Organs]  Grilles for chamber openings
  by "Scott E." <yahudinyhwh@sbcglobal.net>
RE: [Residence Organs]  Grilles for chamber openings
  by "atos" <atos@stirlingprop.com>
RE: [Residence Organs]  Grilles for chamber openings
  by "Gregory Rister" <grandcornet@earthlink.net>
RE: DIYAPASON-L Digest #950 - 01/31/04
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  RE: DIYAPASON-L Digest #950 - 01/31/04
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Organ parts and pipes for sale
  by <GEU30CG@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Grilles for chamber openings From: "Scott E." <yahudinyhwh@sbcglobal.net> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 23:39:53 -0800   When reading the portion of this message regarding the acoustical cloth, speaker grill cloth immediately came to mind, of course. I have no idea in what widths it may be available. Acoustically transparent cloth is not particularly easy to do, so be careful. Many cloths have frequency dependent absorption characteristics.   Good luck with your project.   Scott --------------------------------------------------- Keith Zimmerman wrote: > List, > > I would like to cover the chamber openings of my organ with some kind of > grille. I really like the Grecian motif that has the squares with the = "X" > inside them. See the organ inside the back cover of TAO March, 2003 for = an > example. > > I have found couple examples of perforated metal grilles in this design = (and > other designs). > > I will probably need to cover the back side of the grille with an = acoustical > cloth as well. > > Since the organ will speak into a room that we use often, this must be > aesthetically pleasing to my wife (an to me, of course). > > Do y'all have any ideas or links to places from which I can get these > things? > > Thanks, > Keith > > > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > Residence Pipe Organs. > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > >  
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] Grilles for chamber openings From: "atos" <atos@stirlingprop.com> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 10:07:56 -0600   There are grill cloths available that are not only acoustically = transparent, but which conversely impede heat loss from the chambers. I purchased some last year, in 90" widths, from http://www.grillcloth.com/accessories.asp. = We were interested not only in the decorative feature, but were trying to minimize temperature changes in pipe chambers when the shades default open and the auditorium HVAC is off during non-use periods.   -----Original Message----- From: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org [mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Scott E. Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 1:40 AM To: Residence Organ List Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Grilles for chamber openings     When reading the portion of this message regarding the acoustical cloth, speaker grill cloth immediately came to mind, of course. I have no idea in what widths it may be available. Acoustically transparent cloth is not particularly easy to do, so be careful. Many cloths have frequency dependent absorption characteristics.   Good luck with your project.   Scott --------------------------------------------------- Keith Zimmerman wrote: > List, > > I would like to cover the chamber openings of my organ with some kind of > grille. I really like the Grecian motif that has the squares with the = "X" > inside them. See the organ inside the back cover of TAO March, 2003 for an > example. > > I have found couple examples of perforated metal grilles in this design (and > other designs). > > I will probably need to cover the back side of the grille with an acoustical > cloth as well. > > Since the organ will speak into a room that we use often, this must be > aesthetically pleasing to my wife (an to me, of course). > > Do y'all have any ideas or links to places from which I can get these > things? > > Thanks, > Keith > > > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > Residence Pipe Organs. > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own Residence Pipe Organs. HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] Grilles for chamber openings From: "Gregory Rister" <grandcornet@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 9:46:42 -0800   Hi List,   With regard to the subject of grille cloth, it is important to consider = the sound-absorption properties of the cloth you use. The best fabrics, such as many of those produced under the Melotone brand name, are large-filament, loose-weave cloths which do little or nothing to impede sound. It was actually possible visually to just discern some of the pipework through it. At the church where I play (and will be playing in about an hour) the grille fabric, which was of the loose-weave variety, = was replaced after almost 20 years of service with a cloth described as "speaker cloth"; a tightly woven, soft/fuzzy stuff which was quite opaque to light. Apparently also to sound, because it significantly attentuated high frequencies from the organ. We are now locked in a bit of a stink (caused by the organist :) over replacing this fabric.     For your residnetial use, some attenuation may be beneficial because you are located so close to the sound source, but bear this in mind as a = factor to consider when choosing your cloth. . .   Greg Rister Pipe Organ Craftsmen Pomona, California       > [Original Message] > From: atos <atos@stirlingprop.com> > To: Residence Organ List <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> > Date: 02/01/2004 8:07:56 AM > Subject: RE: [Residence Organs] Grilles for chamber openings > > There are grill cloths available that are not only acoustically transparent, > but which conversely impede heat loss from the chambers. I purchased = some > last year, in 90" widths, from = http://www.grillcloth.com/accessories.asp. We > were interested not only in the decorative feature, but were trying to > minimize temperature changes in pipe chambers when the shades default = open > and the auditorium HVAC is off during non-use periods. > > -----Original Message----- > From: DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org [mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org]On > Behalf Of Scott E. > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 1:40 AM > To: Residence Organ List > Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Grilles for chamber openings > > > When reading the portion of this message regarding the acoustical cloth, > speaker grill cloth immediately came to mind, of course. I have no idea > in what widths it may be available. Acoustically transparent cloth is > not particularly easy to do, so be careful. Many cloths have frequency > dependent absorption characteristics. > > Good luck with your project. > > Scott > --------------------------------------------------- > Keith Zimmerman wrote: > > List, > > > > I would like to cover the chamber openings of my organ with some kind = of > > grille. I really like the Grecian motif that has the squares with the "X" > > inside them. See the organ inside the back cover of TAO March, 2003 = for > an > > example. > > > > I have found couple examples of perforated metal grilles in this = design > (and > > other designs). > > > > I will probably need to cover the back side of the grille with an > acoustical > > cloth as well. > > > > Since the organ will speak into a room that we use often, this must be > > aesthetically pleasing to my wife (an to me, of course). > > > > Do y'all have any ideas or links to places from which I can get these > > things? > > > > Thanks, > > Keith > > > > > > > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > > Residence Pipe Organs. > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > > > > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > Residence Pipe Organs. > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > > > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > Residence Pipe Organs. > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org >       --- Gregory Rister --- grandcornet@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet.      
(back) Subject: RE: DIYAPASON-L Digest #950 - 01/31/04 From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 12:41:18 -0600   Keith.........I've seen several mid-1920's M=F6ller that had the X-in-a-Square motif in oak.........squares of perhaps 12-15" across (with grill cloth behind it). Maybe you can find some old M=F6ller casework..........ask Rich Schneider.........he's got EVERYTHING in that warehouse, as you well know!   I doubt if acoustical cloth is that important in a small home installation..........why not let your wife pick out any light weight fabric that suits her fancy.   Dennis Steckley   -----Original Message----- Subject: Grilles for chamber openings From: "Keith Zimmerman" <kwzimmerman@alltel.net> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:37:06 -0500   List,   I would like to cover the chamber openings of my organ with some kind of grille. I really like the Grecian motif that has the squares with the "X" inside them. =20      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] RE: DIYAPASON-L Digest #950 - 01/31/04 From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 14:14:36 -0500       "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" wrote:   > (snip) > > I doubt if acoustical cloth is that important in a small home > installation..........why not let your wife pick out any light weight > fabric that suits her fancy.   Not me by George. My pipework would be fully visible and my wife would get the grill cloth as a blindfold when she entered the room. But then I'm = a bachelor, so I can say things like that. :-).   Mike the unmerciful    
(back) Subject: Organ parts and pipes for sale From: <GEU30CG@aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 22:47:07 EST   Hello, I am selling off spare ranks from my organ project.   All pipework on three or four inches of wind.   Clarinet. 73 notes. Wicks. Top two octaves are metal flue pipes. $300   Melodia 49 notes. Builder unknown. All wood open flue pipes. Smooth = rich tone. All pipes re-shellacked. Very nice looking rank. $150   8" Muted Trumpet. Moller Good shape but one note will need resonator = repair. $300   8" Stopped Diapason Moller. Stoppers in good shape. All re-shellacked. = Nice looking rank. $250   8" Salicional. 2 ranks available. Both believed to be Moller. Bottom notes mitered. $175 each rank   8" Dulciana. Builder unknown. Rank is in good shape. $125   8" Vox. Capped Reed. $200   8" Open Diapason. Builder Unknown. $200   16' Bourdon 1-12. Builder Unknown. Pipes sound good but have been = painted. $100 obo   Swell shades and motor. Will most likely need releathering. $100.   Zephyr Blower. 1hp three phase with phase converter. Works great on = 220v. Motor tested by professional motor rebuilder. Blower housing cleaned and repainted recently. $250.   Misc Unit chests. $50 each. May play for awhile but eventually need rebuilding. Most in cosmetic great shape.   The whole works for $1200. Will even throw in a nice old 2 manual oak console.   Photographs available upon request.   I'm not able to ship these items. Pick up only please.   Contact Darren Ferreter Cedar Rapids Iowa Geu30cg@aol.com 319/573-8559 Cell