DIYAPASON-L Digest #998 - Sunday, May 23, 2004
 
Parts Available
  by "John R. Ball" <fitball@cox.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Parts Available
  by "John Haskey" <johnh@haskey.net>
Fw: A Question About a Resultant 32'
  by "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net>
Re: [Residence Organs]  Fw: A Question About a Resultant 32'
  by <grandcornet@verizon.net>
 

(back) Subject: Parts Available From: "John R. Ball" <fitball@cox.net> Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 17:01:09 -0400   Hello List, I have available these items, all in like new condition:   Pedal relay wired and labeled 16' 8' 5 1/3' 8' 4' from old Allen. ($2)   Manual relay wired with 66 contacts from old Allen. ($1)   Expression pedal from old Allen. ($1)   2 manual couplers with 11 magnets (from rear of keyboards) from old Allen. Completely wired but has only a short pigtail ($10 each)   Princess pedal board from old Allen. ($30)   If you pick up then really cheap as shown above. If I have to box and ship we can talk about how much I deserve for my time and materials.   I also have the following for sale:   1 Organ bench in very good shape from old Allen ($25).   1 Organ bench, dark stain, old heavy solid oak, with iron screw and old handle raising mechanism. Its back is missing ($40).   Obviously I cannot ship these benches.   Offers accepted. Pictures available. Regards, John Ball      
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Parts Available From: "John Haskey" <johnh@haskey.net> Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 15:58:41 -0700 (PDT)     Hey John, Where is all this located? ---john.   On Sun, 23 May 2004, John R. Ball wrote:   > Hello List, > I have available these items, all in like new condition: > > Pedal relay wired and labeled 16' 8' 5 1/3' 8' 4' from old Allen. = ($2) > > Manual relay wired with 66 contacts from old Allen. ($1) > > Expression pedal from old Allen. ($1) > > 2 manual couplers with 11 magnets (from rear of keyboards) from old = Allen. > Completely wired but has only a short pigtail ($10 each) > > Princess pedal board from old Allen. ($30) > > If you pick up then really cheap as shown above. > If I have to box and ship we can talk about how much I deserve for my = time > and materials. > > I also have the following for sale: > > 1 Organ bench in very good shape from old Allen ($25). > > 1 Organ bench, dark stain, old heavy solid oak, with iron screw and old > handle raising mechanism. Its back is missing ($40). > > Obviously I cannot ship these benches. > > Offers accepted. Pictures available. > Regards, > John Ball > > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > Residence Pipe Organs. > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Fw: A Question About a Resultant 32' From: "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net> Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 18:55:39 -0500     > >I am expanding my Swell, and creating a Choir Organ and a floating > >Echo/String division. In this process I want to create a really > >effective Resultant 32' . The Swell has a medium scale Lieblich > >Gedeckt 16' (Moller, 1930), and I want to use it for the "fifth" > >note (the GG), and a Fatter and duller Wicks Bourdon 16' octave for > >the bottom "tonic" note (the CC to be sounded with the Lieblich GG), > >and repeated for the second octave of the 32'. I am thinking that by > >using two different ranks I will be freer to adjust the comparative > >wind/volume of the corresponding pipes, and by using the bigger rank > >for the tonic note,I will be adding a solid extra bass on the right > >pitch when I add the 32'. My present question is the placement of > >the two ranks in the chamber. Does it make any accoustic difference > >where I place the two offset chests in relation to each other? Do > >they need to face away from each other, or need to be especially > >close? Will there be a consistant 32' effect as the swell shutters > >are opened? What are the experiences of other builders? I have made > >classic mistakes and had to learn the hard way how to plan string > >celestes, for instance, and after I have learned to place them apart > >to celeste the best, then everybody says,"well, everybody knows > >that!" So I am asking for your collected experience on the subject > >of Resultant 32' planning and installation. > > Thanks for > >your input, Kip Smith, Ava,Mo. > > > -- > ********************************************************* > David Scribner, Owner > DIYAPASON-L - a mailing list for the owners/builders > of their own home pipe organ > mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: [Residence Organs] Fw: A Question About a Resultant 32' From: <grandcornet@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 17:20:15 -0700   Hi List,   Paul, regarding your construction of a Resultant:   What you propose to do should work fine. We have created successful 32' = resultant stops using pipes that are under swell, and in one case a = situation where the tonic rank was unenclosed and the fifth-sounding rank = was under swell. This was surprisingly very effective, although the fact = that it was in a large, resonant church was probably helpful.   The ideal situation in creating a resultant is a bit of distance, but if = the two sets are, as you put it "dull" toned, it will probably work. = Watch out not to drive the fifth-sounding rank too hard, because that can = create overtones which damage the resultant effect.   Hope this helps.   Greg Rister Pipe Organ Craftsmen Pomona, California     > > From: "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net> > Date: 2004/05/23 Sun PM 04:55:39 PDT > To: "Residence Organ List" <DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org> > Subject: [Residence Organs] Fw: A Question About a Resultant 32' > > > > >I am expanding my Swell, and creating a Choir Organ and a floating > > >Echo/String division. In this process I want to create a really > > >effective Resultant 32' . The Swell has a medium scale Lieblich > > >Gedeckt 16' (Moller, 1930), and I want to use it for the "fifth" > > >note (the GG), and a Fatter and duller Wicks Bourdon 16' octave for > > >the bottom "tonic" note (the CC to be sounded with the Lieblich GG), > > >and repeated for the second octave of the 32'. I am thinking that by > > >using two different ranks I will be freer to adjust the comparative > > >wind/volume of the corresponding pipes, and by using the bigger rank > > >for the tonic note,I will be adding a solid extra bass on the right > > >pitch when I add the 32'. My present question is the placement of > > >the two ranks in the chamber. Does it make any accoustic difference > > >where I place the two offset chests in relation to each other? Do > > >they need to face away from each other, or need to be especially > > >close? Will there be a consistant 32' effect as the swell shutters > > >are opened? What are the experiences of other builders? I have made > > >classic mistakes and had to learn the hard way how to plan string > > >celestes, for instance, and after I have learned to place them apart > > >to celeste the best, then everybody says,"well, everybody knows > > >that!" So I am asking for your collected experience on the subject > > >of Resultant 32' planning and installation. > > > Thanks for > > >your input, Kip Smith, Ava,Mo. > > > > > > -- > > ********************************************************* > > David Scribner, Owner > > DIYAPASON-L - a mailing list for the owners/builders > > of their own home pipe organ > > mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > > > > > > DIYAPASON-L: a Discussion list for owners and builders of their own > Residence Pipe Organs. > HOMEPAGE : http://www.diyapason.pipechat.org > List: mailto:DIYAPASON-L@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:owner-DIYAPASON@pipechat.org > > >