PipeChat Digest #30 - Tuesday, August 12, 1997
 
 


(back) Subject: Re: Wanamaker Organ Recital From: bzeman@ebi.com Date: Mon, 11 Aug 97 08:45:21 PDT   Shirley- We too were up in what was once the Terrace On The Court restaurant. When it functions as an eatery it can be very noisy with dishes and silver clattering to say nothing of the yakking that goes on. Also, for the regular daily recitals the organ is somewhat muted because it is a store and sell they must! We looked for you, but you kept vanishing! Did bump into Claire at the console. The first march was Sousa's El Capitan, I believe. I think that the sealing up of the top 5 floors of the Grand Court has improved the acoustics. The sound doesn't have a chance to escape into the former upper sales floors and get swallowed up by racks of Better Dresses or Winter Coats or whatever. It seems to really roll around up there. The sound is phenomenal but the organ lacks a good set of fiery reeds. It's too bad the Stentor division was never installed. Maybe they could sneak in a 100" reed or two from over in Atlantic City. I'll drive, it's not that far. Bob  
(back) Subject: opinions on Wicks' maintenance service? From: "Mike and Sharon Barton" <barton@mail.citilink.com> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 12:05:04 -0600   I just got an email from my former pastor regarding the maintenance of their 1927 Hinners pipe organ. Here is what he wants to know:   (This is directly from his email) >Organ servicing question: We just got a letter from the Wicks Pipe Organ >Co out of St. Louis (factory in Hampton, Ill.) regarding a maintenance >agreement. Do you have any thoughts about them as a company, or do you >think we're doing fine with *name deleted*?   Does anyone on the list have experience with their maintenance department. I know how *I* feel about their organs, but I really don't want to bring that into it since they're not going to be rebuilding the thing. Just mainly tuning, and maybe switching the wind supply over to PVC from that cardboard stuff they used in the '20s. I will forward all pertinent comments to him.   Thanks.     -------|\----- Sharon Barton -------|/----- barton@citilink.com ------/|------ -----|-(-)---- http://www.citilink.com/~barton/sharon/ ------\|/----- Director of Liturgy and Music / Church of the Assumption, Richfield, MN  
(back) Subject: Re: Wanamaker Organ Recital From: Shirley <pnst@voicenet.com> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:40:11   At 08:45 08/11/97 PDT, Bob wrote (in part):   > I think that the sealing up of the top 5 floors of the Grand >Court has improved the acoustics. The sound doesn't have a chance to >escape into the former upper sales floors and get swallowed up by racks >of Better Dresses or Winter Coats or whatever. It seems to really roll >around up there.   Oh, Definitely. For those who don't know the metamorphosis the store has gone through, the upper 4 or 5 floors of what used to be selling space has been closed off from the Grand Court with Plexiglas. (The plan is to convert those floors into office space.) The sound of the organ, thanks to the hard surfaces, is much cleaner than it was before.   >The sound is phenomenal but the organ lacks a good set >of fiery reeds.   So I noticed.... I missed them on the "Now Thank We" which didn't get as exciting as I'd hoped for.... it was missing those big trumpets....     > It's too bad the Stentor division was never installed. >Maybe they could sneak in a 100" reed or two from over in Atlantic City.   Heeheehee.... I'm trying hard to behave myself here and not make any reference to the debate on piporg-l. :) :) :) <--- still smiling sweetly.   >I'll drive, it's not that far.   I'll help ya load the pipes. ;) Midnight Organ Supply hard at work! (And lest anybody anywhere thinks I'm serious here, I'm not.) :)   --Shirley      
(back) Subject: Re: Wanamaker Organ Recital From: "Terry Charles" <tcorgans@imsweb.net> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:56:09 -0400   S H I R L E Y !!!   ""I'll help ya load the pipes. ;) Midnight Organ Supply hard at work! (And lest anybody anywhere thinks I'm serious here, I'm not.) :)""   For shame - well, for the smile at the end IS on the right side...   TC  
(back) Subject: Organ Dedicatory Prayer From: Bill6827@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 19:45:56 -0400 (EDT)   Greetings,   I ran across this dedication prayer in one of my old ATOS Mags and thought that out there in orgyland there might be someone who is about to dedicate a new organ. I thought that this might be an appropriate part of a dedication service. I have double posted this--sorry about that. Anyhow, here 'tis.   "The following was written by Desmond Jenkins for London Chapter's dedication of the organ in Barry Memorial Hall. He hopes it will be used many times at organ dedications."   O Lord of Harmony and Beauty of Sound, We thank Thee for all organ builders and men who made the Tibias and Trumpets.   May they be blessed in all they do and grant in their work a happy harmony--a sacrifice of Praise to Thee.   Help us to be thankful for those who work with head and hand to bring us enjoyment of ear and eye.   May the musid we hear today remind us of heavenly harmonies that praise Thee.   Tune our lives with Thy and Love so that heaven's happiness may be ours this day and always.   Through Jesus Christ our Lord, AMEN     Regards to all, Dr Bill Hanson Bill6827          
(back) Subject: Re: Wanamaker Organ Recital From: Otto Pebworth <opebwrth@gte.net> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 20:52:55 -0400   Re: the reeds...   Of course, the Ethereal isn't on line, yet...  
(back) Subject: Tune-Dex For Sale From: Stan Guy <Texstan@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 20:22:39 -0500   I have a Tune-Dex for sale. If you are interested and want further information, please post me privately.   Thanks,   Stan Guy Texstan@ix.netcom.com        
(back) Subject: Re: acoustics From: Joyce Weaver <jweaver@foxvalley.net> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 16:27:24 -0500   At 11:02 PM 8/9/97 -0400, you wrote: >A question for Loren Weaver.... >Isn't one of the reasons that the long, narrow and high gothic buildings >have such wonderful acoustics the result of parallel surfaces being >virtually eliminated by pillars, irregular stone surfaces, statuary and >other decorative aspects of the building. I have always been taught >that parallel surfaces were "bad" and in previous positions when >renovations were done, even walls behing the choir were slightly angled >for this purpose. > > Bruce Cornely >============ o o o o ============== > o o o ______________ o o o > o o o ______________ o o o >OHS ======================== AGO > >     First, what do you mean by "wonderful acoustics" ? Is it the long reverberation time, the fact that "every seat is a good seat", or something else ?   A major part of their advantage is that the buildings are very large. Also, the organs are situated near one end (in my meager experience: Grace Cathedral in San Francisco, and Washington Cathedral), and the walls are _very_ hard material, so that very little sound is absorded when the any part of a sound wave reflects from a wall, ceiling, or floor. The sound spreads out sort of uniformly in all directions, and any part that is headed down the nave is going to be reflected on down the nave and finally back. In this case, it doesn't matter that the walls are parallel since sound heading at any angle will eventually get mixed with sound that headed out at other angles. I'm afraid this isn't coming across well; I need to draw pictures. At any rate the building has acted as a huge mixing chamber by the time the sound has reached the listener. The columns and other architectural features contribute to that mixing, and make it more random, but the mixing should be good even without them.   My first post had to do with resonances in small rooms. The problem there is room dimensions comparable to one wavelength (I said one, but it's actually one half, one, one and one half, etc.). And there the problem concerns sound that bounces back and forth on a line perpendicular to the walls. Gothic buildings tend to avoid the problem by sheer size. On the other hand, I have noticed what seemed to be resonances in the 32' pedal stops in recordings of European Cathedral organs, but I have no direct experience. These apparent resonances could also have come from the recording equipment or from my playback equipment.   I hope this answers what you asked. If not, I'm willing to try again.   Loren    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Dedicatory Prayer From: Bill6827@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 23:33:44 -0400 (EDT)   Hello List, In my haste of typing I omitted one word in the last line of the prayer. It should read: Tune our lives with Thy Grace and Love so that heaven's happiness may be ours this day and always.   Sorry about that, but we're all friends and on the same side, Aren't we? Thanks for your forbearance!   Dr. Bill Hanson bill6827  
(back) Subject: Re: opinions on Wicks' maintenance service? From: "Paul F. Stapel" <pstapel@spectra.net> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 00:07:24 -0400   At 12:05 PM 8/11/97 -0600, you wrote:   >Does anyone on the list have experience with their (WICKS) maintenance department. > I know how *I* feel about their organs, but I really don't want to bring >that into it since they're not going to be rebuilding the thing. Just >mainly tuning, and maybe switching the wind supply over to PVC from that >cardboard stuff they used in the '20s. I will forward all pertinent >comments to him. ----|\----- Sharon Barton >-------|/----- barton@citilink.com >------/|------ >-----|-(-)---- http://www.citilink.com/~barton/sharon/ >------\|/----- Director of Liturgy and Music > / Church of the Assumption, Richfield, MN > > Monday night, August 11, 1997 Sharon, As a proud Sales Director for WICKs in the up-mid-state New York area I am surprised to read that WICKS (the company, which is in HIGHLAND, Illinois, by the way) is soliciting a SERVICE CONTRACT of an instrument,.... are you sure it is the COMPANY or possibly it is a Sales Director of WICKS who may also be a Service Representative and is promoting his business?   Although I haven't received any notification of the company's getting into servicing contracts for other than its own products, they have some truly fine factory service people who could do a tremendous job. Likewise for their Factory Authorized Service Representatives but not necessarily for all service persons who claim to be Authorized ( some got the authorization and then fell out of favor by sub-standard practices and still claim the titlel)   May I suggest that you and your former pastor call the WICKS company (618-654 2191) and talk to Jack Jenkins, the National Sales Director, or Mark Wick or Scott Wick, ( 4th generation family in the business), who care a lot about the WICKS name being used properly. They should be able to verify all names you may submit.   Since your personal opinion of WICKS wasn't too clear, I hope that you have a positive view, as the company certainly warrants it... you may want to visit the factory where you will be pleased to see a finely 'tuned' operation using the best of hand made and close tolerance machine procedures to make truly reliable organs.Tonal design is determined by the Voicers and tonal finishers selected for their international quality and to fit the purchasers needs.   WICKS is one of the top two largest US organ companys still alive , with a solid finanical rating in your national rating books, and is constantly devoted to the best quality at a fair price -- since they are a custom company, they can also build quality at a high price, depends what is needed and wanted.   If I can be of more assistance, please feel free to call me, or the company.   Best wishes   Paul F. Stapel, Sales Director for WICKS Pipe Organs 607 773 1495/722 3933 Binghamton, NY 13905-4525 pstapel@spectra.net