PipeChat Digest #46 - Tuesday, August 26, 1997
 
 


(back) Subject: Re: Searching for a piece. . . From: Jack R Hooton <jackh@thebest.net> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 07:32:02 -0700   Maybe "Crown Imperial", William Walton. Probably published by OUP. -- Jack R. Hooton St. Simons Island, GA mailto:jackh@thebest.net mailto:72613.3620@compuserve.com    
(back) Subject: Piece Heroique??? From: Harold Stover <Stovorg@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:02:45 +0000   At 10:36 AM 7/28/97 +0000, Vernon Moeller submitted a program for Piece Heroique (a secular work written for performance in a concert hall) overlaying it with a four-part life-of-Christ scenario, then added:   >Interpretations can be fun! And the best part is that none of them is >right or wrong!   OK, here's mine: 1st section: Franck is slaving away on a hot, dirty General Motors assembly line in Detroit (I know he really lived in 19th-Century Paris, but hey . . .) 2nd section: While an unfinished chassis rolls by, Franck daydreams about the nice cold beer he plans to have as soon as his shift ends. The timpani-like pedal notes represent his cardiologist's warning to switch to lite beer. 3rd section: His daydream is interrupted by the approach of the foreman across the factory floor. 4th section: The UAW wins a huge contract settlement from GM. Franck takes his windfall, chucks the job, moves to Vegas, and marries a showgirl.   Composers are not stupid and they generally tell us if they wish to have a program applied to a work eg Berioz' Symphonie Fantastique. Throughout the 19th Century, many composers had to resist the public's then-common attempt to read an extra-musical program into everything, and not all had the self-confidence to do so eg Anton Bruckner. Even Bruckner eventually was able to recant programs that he had imposed against his better judgement in moments of indecision. IMHO inventing superfluous stories about pieces, even those with noble plot lines, will delay or even prevent an interpreter's apprehension of the message of a work at its deepest level and ultimately does a disservice to performer, composer, and listener. Vernon, put down thy crutch and walk! Cheers, Harold    
(back) Subject: Re: Searching for a piece. . . From: CoppRoCh@aol.com Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 10:03:53 -0400 (EDT)   Dear Bruce -- Just want you to know that I'm enjoying your several contributions to PipeChat. It comes in on our family address CoppRoCh, rather than my own CoppBob, so this reply should not confuse you. Keep me on your list as CoppBob, which is the address where I receive Queerlaw and Queerpolitics (among much else!). The mailings from those two got to be so overwhelming that I had to move them off the CoppRoCh address. Overwhelming in volume, that is; content is OK with me! Like the organists on PipeChat, the members of the gay community seems to spend most of their days at their computers. All very interesting to a lurker like me, however. (Lurker, that is, on both PipeChat and Queer..., as well as in those M4M AOL chat rooms.) We are in Maryland visiting our daughter Catherine and her family. Catherine is associate general counsel for foods at the Food and Drug Adminstration here in Rockville and David (both a pharmacist and a lawyer) is special assistant to the commissioner for regulations. Rachel (11) and Hannah (9) are upstairs having their breakfast with Charlotte. (This is the Jewish wing of our pantheistic family about which I told you. This wing is just back from two weeks in Israel, with impresssive video (by David) and still pictures (by Catherine). We spent last Friday and Saturday in Baltimore, visiting Charlotte's sister and her husband. Had dinner at a world-famous German restaurant (my kind of cuisine!), about which I will try to send you a card when I get home to find your address. Long and persistent eye-contact with a stunning young man at a nearby table, who seemed to be with his parents. Returning to Ann Arbor on Labor Day. Reading our e-mail regularly here in Rockville via the kids' AOL "guest user" facility. Keep chatting! Shalom! Bob Copp Rockville 10:00 EDT Monday  
(back) Subject: Re: Searching for a piece. . . From: CoppRoCh@aol.com Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 10:07:46 -0400 (EDT)   Dear Bruce -- Got so carried away with other stuff in the posting just sent that I forgot to tell you that Crown Imperial is one of my favorites, and that I'd love to hear you play it sometime. I'll have to work on that. I have it on three or four CDs. Shalom again! Bob 10:05 EDT Monday  
(back) Subject: Re: Piece Heroique From: Vernon Moeller <vernonm@ccsi.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 08:49:24   Bruce:   My other interpretation, if you want to call it that, is somewhat evangelistic, I suppose, but here goes (my apologies to my non-Christian friends):   Again, I divide the piece into 4 sections, whereby I find that section (1) describes the life of a person before Christ comes into his life, mundane, without purpose, living life from day to day bent only on survival. Section (2) describes how that person might feel when first introduced to the teachings of Christ: love, peace, patience, etc., sort of a glowing, ethereal effect (sorry if this sounds a bit melodramatic). The 3rd section returns to the original ideas, but the slowly rising tension suggests, to me, that the 'teachings' of the 2nd section have not fallen on deaf ears, but rather that they gradually cause a conflict in that person between the life that he knew and the life that he might know should he accept Christ. The climax of that conflict is released during the last section, which is made even more dramatic by a full measure of silence, when Christ enters this person's life and he is made whole by it.   In my overly dramatic mind's eye, I can even 'see' the new Christian marching off to 'wars' using that same B-F#-B motif as his marching rhythm. Sort of calls to mind Sir Arthur Sullivan's great hymn "Onward, Christian Soldiers," doesn't it?   I had this same idea all neatly typed out last night and was about to send it off when I got a GPF on my PC in Windows, and I lost it all (arrrgh!). So I rebooted and just typed up the shorter version and sent it in its place last night, but since you have mentioned wanting to hear of this version, I decided to retype it this morning and send it in.   Since we know that Franck was considered by some music historians to be an ascetic, and by the rest to be a very devout Roman Catholic, I would dare to guess that perhaps Franck had religious ideas in mind when he wrote this piece, but did not want to give it a religious title for fear that it would be played only in church. And, of course, Europe, during the mid- to late 19th century, was a hotbed of nationalism, so perhaps Franck felt that he wanted to appeal to the patriotic minds of the audiences of that day.   Who really knows?   \/\/\    
(back) Subject: Welcome your comments From: Terry Yount <tyount@woodbrook.org> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 10:52:46 -0400   As a new subscriber in Baltimore, I hope to contribute to some of the discussion I have read so far. This is my first foray (not Faure) into the muddy waters of internet chat. To enlist your comments, I have a question:   When a digital interface is added to a pipe organ, like our upcoming instrument at Woodbrook Baptist (Meyer pipes 10 rks, Walker Technologies system 22rks), what are the ways in which we (the musicians) can optimize its use?   Standing by, Terry      
(back) Subject: Re: Connecting mike inputs to the pre-amp output of a CONN 624 From: dmjd <jimdave@rnet.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 10:00:17 -0500   Dear Rich & All: I can't believe that any organist would stand for connecting his/her organ to a mixing board or p.a. system. There goes ALL of the artistic individuality of the professional to some gadgetteer in the back row. Just my 2 cents worth. Sincerely, Jim, A Professional Organist! -- email: jimdave@rnet.com Rainbow Ridge Farm    
(back) Subject: An Administrative Change From: Shirley <pnst@voicenet.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 11:45:33   Dear PipeChatters:   Because of upcoming demands in my life, I regret to tell you that I have resigned my duties as co-owner and co-administrator of PipeChat-L.   This may be a temporary move, and at some time in the future, perhaps I'll be back. But for now, this is necessary. I am facing some very stressful events for my family and need to focus on those.   Also, because I do not have access to the subscriber list, I have dissolved #pipechat, the IRC channel on Anothernet. :(   Well folks, life goes on. Keep on piping up!   --Shirley    
(back) Subject: An Administrative Change From: javan@fnet.friendlynet.com Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 11:58:34 -0500   Shirley, Thanks for all you've done for the list. We'll miss you. I wish you all the best in facing what is coming up for you and your family.   Jane Van Valkenburg First Presbyterian Church Findlay, OH   JAVan@fnet.friendlynet.com     ******Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not be bent out of shape.******      
(back) Subject: Re: An Administrative Change From: "Terry Charles" <tcorgans@imsweb.net> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 12:26:10 -0400   Hi Shirley,   Thanking you for all you have provided for the Chatters, and wishing you well in whatever new is in your life! All the best, and...   Come to Florida and hear its best kept organ secret!   TC  
(back) Subject: Re: Connecting mike inputs to the pre-amp output of a CONN 624 From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 12:43:36 -0400   I have had only one experience with a mixing board, and that was when I was substituting for a friend in a Baptist Church during a three-month leave of absence. The organ was a three manual Moller from c. 1958 and all divisions were separately enclosed. The standard dogma, "if it moves mike it, if it doesn't carpet it" had prevailed, and even though the organ pipes did not move, I guess they figured since the shutters moved it was cheaper to mike it than carpet it! AAAAAAAnyway. Microphones had been placed in the chambers so that the sound-guy could control mixing volumes, since the Steinway concert grand was also miked!. One sunday during a prayer, I was doing the "quiet thing" in the background (which I find great fun as well as inspiring in case I don't like what the minister is praying about), and all of a sudden the SG hit a knob with his arm, and the Erzahler Celeste was blaring all over the place. The shutters had no effect except to create thumping and banging (individual pneumatics) over the PA system. People were glaring at me and the minister was trying to get me to play softer by waving his hand at his side. I finally stopped playing and stared at the SG who realized what he had done and corrected his mistake. At the evening service, at "altar call", the minister said, "while the organ plays quietly (and the sound man moves away from the console), you are invited to the altar...." It really is a great church, and one of the most fun I've ever been in.   Bruce Cornely ============ o o o o ============== o o o ______________ o o o o o o ______________ o o o OHS ======================== AGO  
(back) Subject: Re: Question on Piece Heroique From: John Sinila <js0059@epfl2.epflbalto.org> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 12:56:44 -0400 (EDT)   I believe he wrote the piece for the inauguration of the Truckadero.   On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Vernon Moeller wrote:   > I asked this question on the other list some time ago, but I'm hoping that > perhaps I'm addressing a few folks who didn't see it then. > > I'm planning on playing Franck's Piece Heroique for Christ the King Sunday, > November 23, which is the last Sunday before Advent. Since Occasional > Organ 101 has been moved to the church newsletter, I want to say something > about the piece, but aside from the usual stuff you read on record jackets, > I can't find anything of substance on this piece. I'd like to know if > Franck was inspired by some historic event in writing this piece. Why > didn't he just call it Rhapsody in B? Any ideas or stories behind this piece? > > TIA, > > \/\/\ > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >  
(back) Subject: Re: An Administrative Change From: "K. M. Horvath" <kmhorvat@wcnet.org> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:36:58 -0700   Shirley wrote: > > Dear PipeChatters: > > Because of upcoming demands in my life, I regret to tell you that I have> resigned my duties as co-owner and co-administrator of PipeChat-L. Dear Shirley, Sorry to hear about the stress. It doesn't sound good. God Bless.   I hope you'll still post to the list and read the other posts. Some days that's just what is needed for a lift.   Kathi  
(back) Subject: Re: An Administrative Change From: Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:00:07 -0400   Shirley,   I hope that all your upcoming demands all get sorted out in timely fashion. Meanwhile, on behalf of myself and all the subscribers to Pipe Chat-L, I would like to thank you for all that you have done for the List. We shall miss you, and hope that you can return to us soon.   Best Wishes for the future               At 11:45 AM 8/25/97, you wrote: >Dear PipeChatters: > > Because of upcoming demands in my life, I regret to tell you that I have >resigned my duties as co-owner and co-administrator of PipeChat-L. > > This may be a temporary move, and at some time in the future, perhaps I'll >be back. But for now, this is necessary. I am facing some very stressful >events for my family and need to focus on those. > > Also, because I do not have access to the subscriber list, I have >dissolved #pipechat, the IRC channel on Anothernet. :( > > Well folks, life goes on. Keep on piping up! > > --Shirley > > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > Bob   Bob's Rule of Precision: Measure with a micrometer. Mark with chalk. Cut with an axe.  
(back) Subject: Re: An Administrative Change From: Shirley <pnst@voicenet.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:39:24   At 14:36 08/25/97 -0700, you wrote:   >I hope you'll still post to the list and read the other posts. Some >days that's just what is needed for a lift. > >Kathi   Thanks for all the kind words from everyone. I neglected to mention that I *am* still subscribed, for now anyway. And Kathi, you are right. :)   --Shirley  
(back) Subject: Re: An Administrative Change From: KEYBOARDJ@aol.com Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 17:43:58 -0400 (EDT)       This message is for SHIRLEY..   I have been reading all of your post on this list. I have enjoyedwhat you had to say ,(with wisdom and knowledge)..   I also enjoyed your coverage of the Wannamaker Organ. I have been sitting beside it, (to watch and hear it since 1954), and was reminded of it from what you had to say about it.   I am an Organist in Gospel Work(since 1950) and also enjoy the Pipe Organ very much.   Sincerely, you will be missed!!!! KEYBOARD J@aol.com Jerry McKinney in Texas.  
(back) Subject: Re: Welcome your comments From: SCoonrod@aol.com Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 19:22:20 -0400 (EDT)   Welcome Terry!   I don't have any experience in digital/pipe hybrid organs. But offer you a hearty welcome to pipe-chat. I have found it rewarding, educational, and most of all, fun. Be sure to share your thoughts/comments with us.   RandyT  
(back) Subject: Re: Searching for a piece. . . From: tracker@j51.com (Ken and Chris Potter) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:58:27 -0500   It's the Crown Imperial by William Walton and it is included in the Oxford Book of Wedding Music, a collection chock full of every wedding piece you would ever want to play.   Ken     >During the prelude, the organist played a very English sounding march >entitled > "_________ Imperial." (If memory serves, the subtitle indicated that it >was written for some coronation or another of one of those odd looking people >with the big ears or some such tabloid fodder.) > >ANYWAY--if anyone could suggest author/title/publication info, it would be >much appreciated. > > >Thanx > > >Charles > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Re: Welcome your comments From: Stephen F P Karr <karrlist@scescape.net> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 21:15:50 -0400 (EDT)   >When a digital interface is added to a pipe organ, like our upcoming >instrument at Woodbrook Baptist (Meyer pipes 10 rks, Walker Technologies >system 22rks), what are the ways in which we (the musicians) can optimize >its use?   From my (admittedly limited) experience with Walker's work (St. Paul's Episcopal, Augusta, GA, Casavant op. 2900, rebuilt 1996), I would say to use them as you would any pipe ranks. These are seriously convincing. Many organists have not been able to tell that the Solo division at St. Paul's is sampled entirely from an E.M. Skinner organ in Boston, plus the 32' stops are all sampled and are all very convincing.   Best of luck,   _____ | |_____ | || |_____ |Stephen || |_____ ______|F.P. Karr| || |_____ ______ |o o || || || || || |_____ | o o| | o o||Student Organist || || |_____ |o o | |o o || || || || || || || | | o o| | o o||Director of Music and Organist, | |o o | |o o || Bethlehem Lutheran Church|| | | o o| | o o|| || || || || || || | |o o | |o o || Aiken, SC || || || || | | o o| | o o| \ / \ / \U/ \S/ \A/ \ / \ / |o o | |o o | V V V V V V V | o o| | o o|_____________________________________|o o | |o o || E E | E E E | E E | E E E | E E | || o o| | o o||_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_||o o |    
(back) Subject: Pipe Chat IRC is still running tonight. From: Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 21:21:11 -0400   Tune in to Pipechat IRC, we are still running, - for now anyway! Bob Conway <conwayb@post.queensu.ca> Organic DeeJay Emeritus, - mostly! CFRC-FM 101.9 MHz Radio Queen's University Kingston, Ontario, K7L 3N6 CANADA    
(back) Subject: Re: An Administrative Change From: SCoonrod@aol.com Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 21:35:57 -0400 (EDT)   Good Luck, Shirley, and GodSpeed. Hope we will continue to see you around cyberspace from time to time. Thanks too, for your friendly emails.   RandyT  
(back) Subject: Re: An Administrative Change From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 22:34:34 -0400   Thanks for helping me get started on the list. We'll keep a candle burning for you. Hope all goes well.   Bruce Cornely ============ o o o o ============== o o o ______________ o o o o o o ______________ o o o OHS ======================== AGO  
(back) Subject: Re: An Administrative Change From: Nelson and Tracy Denton <ndenton434@bigwave.ca> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 23:32:52   At 11:45 AM 8/25/97, you wrote:   > Because of upcoming demands in my life, I regret to tell you that I have >resigned my duties as co-owner and co-administrator of PipeChat-L. --Shirley   Hi Shirley   Having just begun to recover (barely) from having my wife in the ICU for two weeks and months of extreme illness caused by and due to a "Doctors" bungling I know what it's like to go through tough times.   I hope to see you back online soon. and best wishes.   If I can be of any help, just ask.   Your Friend Indeed   Nelson          
(back) Subject: Atlantic City Convention Hall Organ Society From: "Peter Lenox" <PLenox@classic.msn.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 97 03:54:36 UT   Dear Friends of the "King of Instruments":   As you well know, there is an organization called "The Friends of the Wanamaker Organ", devoted to the maintenance and welfare of the Grand Court Organ in the former Wanamaker Department Store in Philadelphia, PA. The organ there is one of the largest in the world, and is a national historic landmark, well-known for its beautiful sonorities and active history in the pipe organ world. Approximately 70 miles southeast of Philadelphia is the other of the world's largest organs, located in the Atlantic City Convention Hall, on the boardwalk, in Atlantic City, New Jersey. Contained therein is the 1929 7-447 Midmer-Losh pipe organ, which boasts, among other things, the world's most powerful stops, which resonate at 100" of wind pressure, and the world's tallest pipes, belonging to the organ's 64' Diaphona! The Convention Hall also contains, in its Ballroom, a fine theater organ: a four-manual Kimball pipe organ. Unfortunately, the ravages of time have caused these magnificent instruments to fade from their original splendor and glory. The mammoth Midmer-Losh organ is now in need of contiunued special care. This great organ, once before being fully operational, is currently only partially playable, but has the potential to once again take its rightful place among the higher ranks of renown in the pipe organ world. Thus, this letter announces the formation of the Atlantic City Convention Hall Organ Society (ACCHOS). Founded by Mr. Stephen D. Smith, the aims of the Society will include:   - Creating a greater awareness of, and interest in, the Atlantic City Convention Hall organs, - Promoting the instruments through newsletters, magazine articles, recordings, etc. - Providing information, re. each organ's present condition - Raising money towards the cost of repairs and maintenance - Updating members about current work being undertaken on the instruments - Arranging an annual ACCHOS meeting at the Convention Hall - Organ recitals at the Convention Hall   The Society is currently in the process of being recognized by the Federal Government as a non-profit organization, and effort is being made towards the establishment of a Constitution. You may join, at no intitial cost. There is no cost for membership until we are established as a non-profit organization, at which time you may discontinue your membership, if so desired. If you or anyone you know are interested in becoming a member of the Atlantic City Convention Hall Organ Society, please send me:   - your name, address, and telephone number - your E-Mail address - your date of birth (for a personal annual "hello" from the Society)   Please also list any way in which you can help furthur the ACCHOS and its noble cause. There are already 75 members of the ACCHOS, and the numbers are growing. Those who become members are assigned numbers which are allotted to the organ's stop number (for example, stop #9 is the infamous Grand Ophicleide, which resonates on 100" of wind pressure). Our monthly newsletter, "The Ophicleide", will inform you as to developments and progress. Thank you for your attention and interest in the ACCHOS. Once this great organ is restored, it will once again proclaim to the world the reason why the organ remains the "King of Instruments"!     Sincerely,   Peter F. Lenox President Atlantic City Convention Hall Organ Society 100 East Wynnewood Road Wynnewood, PA 19096 (610) 667-3394 E-Mail: PLenox@msn.com   (please include my name on all correspondence sent to this address) (when calling, please ask for Peter Lenox)