PipeChat Digest #51 - Friday, August 29, 1997

(back) Subject: Mickelson/gospel style music From: OrgGrinder@aol.com Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 19:24:16 -0400 (EDT)   David Neal <david@neal.u-net.com> asked,   >>Did Paul Mickelson make many recordings (as opposed to being part of a recording of Billy Graham crusade?) I have 'Paul Mickelson plays for youth', but would like to hear more of that kind of playing of that kind of music.   BTW, what do we call that kind of music? Obviously the term 'Gospel' refers to something slightly different.<<   Once upon a time I had that LP too, recorded on the Robert Morton TO in California. A wonderful recording! I also have several of Paul Mickelson's organ arrangement books and org/piano duet books too. Anyone out there know Mr. Mickelson personally? He's still making music, I understand.   I understand your question; many times the term "gospel" music refers to black gospel music. However, I also use the term "gospel" music in referring to the evangelistic music of the 1900s thru the 80s (if its not a hymn, its a gospel song) ... i.e. "The Ninety and Nine," "In the Garden," "Wonderful Grace of Jesus," anything published by Singsipration, John W Peterson, Ralph Carmichael, Bill Gaither, perhaps early Michael W. Smith, just to cite a few examples. I suppose recent and current evangelical music can be called Praise Songs, Worship Choruses, or Contemporary Christian Music (i.e. Steve Green, Ray Boltz, Steven Curtis Chapman, etc).   Chord-ially yours, Dan Miller Minister of Music Calvary Church, Charlotte NC OrgGrinder@aol.com  
(back) Subject: Re: The Ruffatti organ at the Davies Symphony Hall From: "Richard Scott-Copeland" <organist@interalpha.co.uk> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 00:14:03 +0100       ---------- > From: Rick Williams <Rick@netlink.nlink.com> > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Re: The Ruffatti organ at the Davies Symphony Hall > Date: 28 August 1997 21:56 > > I will check and see if I have a program from a few years ago when I attended a concert there. Unfortunately, I moved from CA to MN since attending. The organ truly is spectacular in person. > > >>> "Richard Scott-Copeland" <organist@interalpha.co.uk> 08/28/97 02:52PM >>> Dear Rick   Many thanks in anticipation! > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Disguised tunes From: "Richard Scott-Copeland" <organist@interalpha.co.uk> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 00:22:17 +0100       ---------- > From: Tom Jones <tomj@netpath.net>   > There's a story I heard when I first became interested in the organ. I > never knew when and where it happened, and I don't even know whether it's > true. But it seems an organist caught sight of a parishoner with an > outlandish hat coming into church one Sunday, and he worked the song > "Where'd You Get That Hat?" into his improvisation. But he didn't do it too > well: The song was recognized, and he was fired. I guess the moral is be > careful! > > Regards, > > Tom   Dear Tom, sorry to hear about this! (snigger!!)   Seeing that we are for (for the moment at least) recounting funny stories, I will recount the one about the organist (I know not where) who, presiding at a somewhat unreliable instrument, had a small ornamental cabinet with a glass front made and affixed to the organ containing a harmonica. He then made a temporary sign saying "In case of emergency, break glass!!"   Apparently, even after the instrument was subsequently rebuilt, the harmonica and its case was never taken away! I am not aware, however whether the instruction to "break glass" was ever carried out in divine worship!   Best wishes,   Richard Scott-Copeland > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Unusual Stops From: "Richard Scott-Copeland" <organist@interalpha.co.uk> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 01:09:06 +0100   Hello again everyone!   Does anyone preside at an organ with unusual stops?   The organ which I play in Southampton, England is originally a Walker 1865, rebuilt Rushworth & Dreaper 1923, and subsequently electrified by Compton in 1956. It contains 69 ranks spread over three manuals and pedal.   The instrument is situated at the West End of the church, seating about 700 people and it boasts some unusual stops, some of which I have never seen in England (at least on "normal" sized instruments anyway)   Some of the more unusual stops are:   Swell: Zauberflote 8' (stopped harmonic metal of huge scale, but very soft and pure tonally.   Swell: Zauberflote Celestes 8' (same design of pipe as above but tuned flat to the main rank)   Choir: Contra Bass Clarinet 16' constructed with wooden shallots. An amazing horror movie effect can be produced with this, especially with the tremulant!   Pedal: Ophicleide en Chamade 16' (mounted on top of the huge sell box and pointing, in full view, straight down the church!) It is a real snorter of a reed and produces a shattering effect in the church.   Pedal: Contra Bass Clarinet 32', extended from the choir and in the choir box (see above) I have never seen another stop like this before! It produces the most amazing bass sound.   It also has a 32' Double Bass, extended from the larger of the Bourdon ranks which is basically a Contra Bourdon but only has one pipe, which is of huge scale, indeed it is possible to get two or three choir boys inside! The pipe is about 16' long and sounds the note BBBB. Subsequent notes are produced by pneumatically opening extra chambers in the pipe lengthening it to produce the notes AAAA# down to EEEE. Obviously it is not possible to play more than one note at once in the bottom octave, the lower note taking precedence. The pipe is alterable for volume at the console from a soft purr right up to a very firm Double Open Wood.This device was a speciality of the Compton Organ Company and was used to get real thiry-two foot tone in a relatively confined space. It is on 10" wind. The congregation don't like it set too loud because it tends to shake things and them! The altar servers don't like it much either because it tends to do nasty things to their hangovers and apparently makes them feel sick. The priests worry when I use it because odd bits of masonry fall down from above and land on the altar! The pigeons which settle on the rose window just outside the organ don't seem to care for it much, flying off when it is used.   However, I like it and find it very useful.   To hell with the rest of them!!   Richard Scott-Copeland          
(back) Subject: Re: Altar calls / organs playing quietly/ I need my nostrums From: MFulk70776@aol.com Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 21:21:07 -0400 (EDT)   In a message dated 97-08-28 08:23:37 EDT, you write:   << and wasn't it Oral Roberts (or his twin > brother Anal) who started this horrible practice? >>   Oh such a VILE Spewing of FILTH! I shall have to have a nostrum and take to my bed.  
(back) Subject: Re: <no subject>tunes From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 21:46:06 -0400   How about, "Put another nickle in" during the offering.   Bruce Cornely ============ o o o o ============== o o o ______________ o o o o o o ______________ o o o OHS ======================== AGO  
(back) Subject: Re: Disguised tunes From: Stephen F P Karr <karrlist@scescape.net> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 21:47:55 -0400 (EDT)   Hey, I'll add mine to the pot too.   The pastor at St. Mary Help of Christians Roman Catholic Church in Aiken is very fond of his incense. After the offertory hymn once, I was being bombarded (no pun intended) with a fog of the smoke, and decided that it would be appropriate. I then began upon "Smoke Gets in your Eyes."   I was at another time playing at an evening mass for St. Mary's, and I was bored during communion, so I started fiddling around (after the hymn was done, but long before distribution was over). I found myself playing the Irish Washerwoman (Oh, McTavish is dead, and his brother don't know it/His brother is dead and McTavish don't know it/They're both of them dead, and they're lying in bed/And neither one knows that the other is dead) in the pedals with accompaniment on the Voix Celeste. Later that evening, I started writing. I now am about halfway finished with a fugue I am writing on that subject. As soon as I'm finished, I'll make it available to anyone who would want to see/play it. I hope to have it finished in time to premiere it in the spring (Mayish).   _____ | |_____ | || |_____ |Stephen || |_____ ______|F.P. Karr| || |_____ ______ |o o || || || || || |_____ | o o| | o o||Student Organist || || |_____ |o o | |o o || || || || || || || | | o o| | o o||Director of Music and Organist, | |o o | |o o || Bethlehem Lutheran Church|| | | o o| | o o|| || || || || || || | |o o | |o o || Aiken, SC || || || || | | o o| | o o| \ / \ / \U/ \S/ \A/ \ / \ / |o o | |o o | V V V V V V V | o o| | o o|_____________________________________|o o | |o o || E E | E E E | E E | E E E | E E | || o o| | o o||_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_||o o |    
(back) Subject: Re: Disguised tunes From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 22:05:50 -0400   Tom, thanks for wonderful ideas!! I have only been told once NEVER to play a piece again, and that was the Messiaen "Celestial Banquet". After church the rector came to me and said, "Don't ever play that awful piece again, I found myself flipping wafers in rhythm to that silly pedal melody." At least he was listening. He was also easy to work for because I always knew exactly what he liked and didn't like. He was a very passionate and emotional man and his wife used to prove it by slipping Playboy centerfolds into the altar missal. She said that he was so transparent she could tell what month the centerfold was just by the expression on his face!   Bruce Cornely ============ o o o o ============== o o o ______________ o o o o o o ______________ o o o OHS ======================== AGO  
(back) Subject: Re: Unusual Stops From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 22:15:23 -0400   There has recently been added a new "stop" to the 3/42 Visser-Rowland at Holy Trinity - Gainesville, FL. It is a black toggle switch beneath the pedal drawknobs labeled "Death Ray". It doesn't do anything perceptible, but it was a steal ($.98) and if you use your imagination has endless possibilities.   Bruce Cornely ============ o o o o ============== o o o ______________ o o o o o o ______________ o o o OHS ======================== AGO  
(back) Subject: Piece Heroique (cont) From: Harold Stover <Stovorg@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 03:05:12 +0000   At 02:56 PM 7/28/97 +0000, Vernon Moeller continued our discussion of suitability perfomer-invented programs, writing:   >I stand by what I said - there is no right nor wrong interpretation, >especially if the composer has not left notes indicating a program or >inspiration that caused him to write that piece.   IMHO the fact that the composer has not left notes is by itself an indication that none are to be applied by others (and BTW I write this as a composer as well as an organist)   >I don't claim to know all that much about Franck, but [snip] I would be hard pressed to >believe that he meticulously prepared notes for his compositions to assure his >audience that there was no program associated with them, or that there was.   Ah, but Vernon, he DID tell us when he wanted us to associate a piece with a program (see "Psyche" and "Le Chasseur Maudit", to name two.)   >(1) I am introducing this piece to a church >congregation which is almost totally unschooled in organ music, mostly >because previous organists have not felt it was worth their time trying to >educate them and help them enjoy the music   That is a fine thing to do, and I heartily endorse it, but how is it "educating" them if you lead them to think that a piece is something that it isn't?   >I was trying to link this piece with >something remotely religious, since religious aspects of a composer and his >music make more of an impression on the congregation than just playing a >piece.   Then start with something like "Panis Angelicus", which we know for sure is religious music by Franck, before exposing them to something like PH, which may or may not have any religous impulse behind it - as someone else pointed out, it could just as easily been triggered by the Franco-Prussian war (a recent event when it was written).   Cheers, Harold PS Be careful about taking d'Indy as the last word on Franck - his book is generally considered to be as much propaganda and rear-guard action against Debussy and the impressionists as scholarly fact. I recommend "Cesar Franck And His Circle" by Laurence Davies (Da Capo Press) for a more balanced view of Franck's life and work.      
(back) Subject: Re: "The organ will play..." From: Harold Stover <Stovorg@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 03:05:16 +0000   At 03:24 PM 8/28/97 +0000, Jim Lokken wrote about his complaint to the editors of TIME about the above usage: >Nevertheless, said the editor, it was Time's opinion that such expressions as >"The organ played ..." are acceptable usage.   Yeah, right . . . Ask them if they would allow their music critic to report that he had just come from Carnegie Hall where the piano had played the "Moonlight" sonata.   Cheers, Harold    
(back) Subject: Re: Anyone interested in a FAQ list? - Yup Me! From: Nelson and Tracy Denton <ndenton434@bigwave.ca> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 22:14:15   At 11:35 PM 8/27/97 -0400, you wrote: >I think it is a very good idea, especially if it could be accessed from >a place where some unsuspecting person might stumble upon it and get >interested in pipe organs. It is such a good idea that it could >probably get out of hand and create a lot of work for you >(hehehehehehe) > > Bruce Cornely     I've already got the Wedding Nightmares Etc. list available ( just through e-mail though) and i'm working on Faq's for other topics. Insurance , lightning, blowers etc. Someday I've got to get my web page installed and updated. And I'll post them to the page.   If we each took a different subject and worked on it serparately we could place them on our own web pages and then link then to one another. This would save time, money, web page space etc and would make each person feel as though they had "done it themselves".   Make sure you post your web pages to Yahoo and Webcrawler etc. If you wish the world to see your web pages. It's free and easy to do.   If anyone has any more Wedding Jokes, Blower stuff, Lightning strikes, Insurance Woe's, Tips Stories, Gripes, Greivences, etc. please feel free to e-mail them to me. and I'll add them to the list.   P. S. you can send me money too! :-)))))) - hey it's worth a try, eh? :-)))) I got's an expensive bride to take care of. :-)))   If you want my list just e-mail me @ ndenton434@bigwave.ca The list is big 125 e-mails + i'm working on geting them into a package deal folks - when I get the time.   I think i've sent everybody on my list a package of the e-mails if i've missed anyone let me know.   Got to get off to work - Again - yuck a two and 1/2 hour drive just to the church each way!! ( about 40 miles) :-((((( it's faster walking.   Signed "You know who" Nelson E. Denton R. A. Denton and Son Pipe Organ Builders Hamilton Ontario Canada