PipeChat Digest #152 - Wednesday, December 3, 1997
 
Re: Midi Pedalboard
  by Adam Levin <alevin@advance.net>
Re: Newbie on list
  by Adam Levin <alevin@advance.net>
Re: Newbie on list
  by Adam Levin <alevin@advance.net>
RE: Newbie on list
  by Bass, Bill <bbass@LibertyCorp.com>
Re: eek... - I need a life BAD! - REAL BAD!!
  by Nelson and Tracy Denton <ndenton434@bigwave.ca>
Re: Eek (Kurt)
  by Vernon Moeller <vernonm@ccsi.com>
Re: Newbie on list
  by Shirley <pnst@itw.com>
Re: Eek (Kurt)
  by Shirley <pnst@itw.com>
MIDI stuff
  by Bob Luderer <bobsled@nji.com>
Re: eek... - I need a life BAD! - REAL BAD!!
  by Jason D Comet <krummhorn8@juno.com>
Re: eek... - I need a life BAD! - REAL BAD!!
  by Jason D Comet <krummhorn8@juno.com>
RE: Newbie on list
  by bruce cornely <cremona84000@webtv.net>
Re: eek... - I need a life BAD! - REAL BAD!!
  by <GRSCoLVR@aol.com>
Re: Newbie on list
  by <Ronnymn@aol.com>
Re: eek... - I need a life BAD! - REAL BAD!!
  by JILLIAN SCHULTHEIS <organgeek@geocities.com>
Re: eek... - I need a life BAD! - REAL BAD!!
  by JILLIAN SCHULTHEIS <organgeek@geocities.com>
Re: Newbie on list
  by Gregory F. Klingler <klingler@IDT.NET>
Re: eek... - I need a life BAD! - REAL BAD!!
  by Judy A. Ollikkala <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
FWD:  Organ Videos
  by Dr. Peter G. Pocock <pgpocock@ix.netcom.com>
KCET Program on Organs - Crossposted
  by Roger Pariseau <grinder@west.net>
Re: eek... - I need a life BAD! - REAL BAD!!
  by Nelson and Tracy Denton <ndenton434@bigwave.ca>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Midi Pedalboard From: Adam Levin <alevin@advance.net> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 08:10:58 -0500 (EST)   On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Bruce Behnke wrote: > Syncordia offers a 32 note AGO midi pedalboard for $2400 US or > Canadian??? It comes with a bench and a built in sound module that offers > 32, 16 8 and 4 in Principal, flute and various reed sounds. My > information is about 18 months old.   Ahh, now, with a sound module it's getting closer to being worth that much. Assuming the sounds are *good*, it'd be worth the $2400 easily. I've got decent organ sounds on my Kurzweil synth and that goes for around $2000. My Alesis synth (88 piano-action keys) goes for even less -- $1500. But, I could see $2400 for a real 32-note AGO board with sound module.   Meanwhile, I'll be calling Maplin today to see about getting their MIDI kit for the 30 note AGO pedalboard I got from Richard Schneider...   :)   -Adam      
(back) Subject: Re: Newbie on list From: Adam Levin <alevin@advance.net> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 08:20:12 -0500 (EST)   On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Bass, Bill wrote: > I'm a newcomer to this list. I have been lurking for about a week and > find much of the discussion very interesting. I have two questions I > would like to pose to the list.   Welcome!   > 1) For several years now I have searched for recordings of Christmas > music on pipe organ, but have found only one so far, performed by Virgil > Fox, it is an older recording and suffers from poor recording quality. > I have found two or three others performed on electronic organs, but I > would really like to find something performed on a large pipe organ. > Any suggestions?   With or without choir? I'm not sure about without, but I know that there are dozens with choir. At our local Cathedral Basilica of the Sacred Heart in Newark, NJ, they've got a CD or two for sale of the IV/154 Schantz with choir. When I stopped in at Trinity Church in Copley Sq, Boston, they also had a CD of choir+organ Christmas music. Both are quite good. I don't know if they're available through the mail, though.   Also, check out the Organ Historical Society (good info at http://www.teleport.com/~wkrueger/ohs.shtml) and Gothic Recordings (http://www.tneorg.com/gothic/).   Hope this helps.   -Adam   Rutherford, NJ USA Free speech online!_/ what happens is, I gets hold of 'un http://zen.advance.net/~alevin/_______/ and smacks 'un between the eyes with <*> __________________________/ a hammer...and then I whispers in his ear, I -O / sez 'Cross me...and I'll have thy goolies on t'anvil, thou knows I can.'    
(back) Subject: Re: Newbie on list From: Adam Levin <alevin@advance.net> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 08:29:12 -0500 (EST)   On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Jon C. Habermaas wrote: > Christmas organ music. Contact Organ Historical Society and get their > latest catalog. They usually have a decent offering on Christmas CD's. I > know there is a Lyn Larson Christmas album and there is one I kinda > like called "Christmas Island " which was recorded on the Page organ in > the Avalon Casino theatre.   Hehe -- the beauty of this list. It didn't even cross my mind that he would be looking for TO stuff. It's a prejudice I'll have to work on getting rid of. I guess maybe the Virgil Fox tipped me off, although I suppose when you think about it he could go either way!   Anyway, OHS is a good idea in any case.   Take care, -Adam Rutherford, NJ USA Free speech online!_/ After the stampede the artist http://zen.advance.net/~alevin/_______/ Three Solid Frogs got to his feet, <*> __________________________/ retrieved his brush from his nostril, -O / pulled his easel out of a tree, and tried to think placid thoughts.    
(back) Subject: RE: Newbie on list From: "Bass, Bill" <bbass@LibertyCorp.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 10:08:46 -0500   Thanks for the responses to my questions! I now have leads on a number of Christmas CD's that I will follow up on. I also will obtain a copy of Wm. H Barnes "The Contemporary American Organ". Additional suggestions on both topics are still welcome.   I also suppose I should have included a little more info about myself in my first posting, sorry.   I live in the Greenville, South Carolina, USA area (anyone nearby raise your hand!). Although I wish very much that I could, I cannot play the organ myself (but I can drool over a console with the best of 'em). I passionately enjoy classical organ music (Bach, Widor, Frank, etc.) and I have been fascinated with the instruments themselves since I was a small child. Since I cannot play, the instrument I would like to build would require digital/MIDI operation, but I do not want to synthesize the sound, I want to build real pipes.   Now I need someone to cure me of my ignorance. What is the difference between classical and theater organ (I AM NOT AN ANIMAL! :-))?   Thanks, Bill Bass  
(back) Subject: Re: eek... - I need a life BAD! - REAL BAD!! From: Nelson and Tracy Denton <ndenton434@bigwave.ca> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 10:54:28   At 11:56 PM 12/1/97, you wrote: > >>Nelson ( a subscriber to 10 (19+)+ lists and a 200 emails a day junkie) > >Really? What 10 lists? (I get about 100 emails a day... so far..... from >piporg-l, pipechat, GlassWings (a general superficial chat list), two or >three humor lists, etc.) > > --Shirley > Try . . .   1 Pianos   Sender: owner-piano-l@uamont.edu Reply-To: Piano-L@uamont.edu To: Piano-L@uamont.edu   2 pipe organ -L   Reply-To: Ben Chi <BEC@CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU> Sender: Pipe Organs and Related Topics <PIPORG-L@CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU> From: Ben Chi <BEC@CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU> Organization: University at Albany Computing and Network Services To: PIPORG-L@CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU   3 Choral Music list   Sender: owner-choralist@lists.colorado.edu From: choralist@lists.colorado.edu To: "Choral Conductors E-mail List" <choralist@lists.colorado.edu> Subject: CHORALIST digest 1017   4 pipechat   > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >   5 reed organ society Reply-To: ros@mrc-bsu.cam.ac.uk Originator: ros@mrc-bsu.cam.ac.uk Sender: ros@mrc-bsu.cam.ac.uk To: Multiple recipients of list <ros@mrc-bsu.cam.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Estey G parts     6 harpsichords Reply-To: Harpsichords and Related Topics <HPSCHD-L@CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU> Sender: Harpsichords and Related Topics <HPSCHD-L@CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU> Subject: Re: Bach/Italian harpsichord To: HPSCHD-L@CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU   7 electronic organs Reply-To: Electronic Organ Discussion List <EORG-L@CFRVM.CFR.USF.EDU> Sender: Electronic Organ Discussion List <EORG-L@CFRVM.CFR.USF.EDU> Subject: Re: Conn Electric Pipes To: EORG-L@CFRVM.CFR.USF.EDU   8 web page sharing From: list-digest@le-digest.com X-Authentication-Warning: ledigest.ledigest.com: admin set sender to list-digest@le-digest.com using -r To: NDENTON434@BIGWAVE.CA Subject: LinkExchange Digest #215   9 mechanical music From: Mechanical Music Digest <rolls@foxtail.com> To: ndenton434@bigwave.ca Subject: 971125 MMDigest     10 Netscape News From: netcenter-news@netscape.com To: <ndenton434@bigwave.ca> Subject: Netcenter News Reply-To: netcenter-news@netscape.com Comment: Unauthenticated sender X-Mailer: Netscape MailCaster 1.0   11 Wood industry news From: owner-wood-science@interchg.ubc.ca To: wood-science-digest@interchg.ubc.ca Subject: wood-science V1 #363 Reply-To: wood-science@unixg.ubc.ca Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 04:00:02 -0800   12 bug alerts Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 21:40:00 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: bugalerts@tipworld.com Sender: owner-bugalerts@tipworld.com From: TipWorld <tips@tipworld.com> To: bugalerts@tipworld.com Subject: BugNet's Bug of the Day [ACROBAT DISTILLER 3.0.1 LAUNCH FREEZE - 11/24/97]     13 Game tips Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 21:30:08 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: pcgamestips@tipworld.com Sender: owner-pcgamestips@tipworld.com From: TipWorld <tips@tipworld.com> To: pcgamestips@tipworld.com Subject: PC GAMES' Tip of the Day [DARK EARTH--A PRISON BREAK - 11/20/97]     14 more game tips Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 14:20:12 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: gameware@tipworld.com Sender: owner-gameware@tipworld.com From: TipWorld <tips@tipworld.com> To: gameware@tipworld.com Subject: PC WORLD's Game Picks of the Day [11/20/97   15 shareware Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 14:20:06 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shareware@tipworld.com Sender: owner-shareware@tipworld.com From: TipWorld <tips@tipworld.com> To: shareware@tipworld.com Subject: PC WORLD'S Windows 95 Shareware Pick of the Day [11/20/97]   16 Alternative tuning Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu From: tuning@eartha.mills.edu To: ndenton434@bigwave.ca Subject: TUNING digest 1247 X-Comment: Alternative Tuning Distribution List   17 Amazon Books From: "We've Found the Books You're Looking For" <eyes@amazon.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 04:26:14 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: piranha.amazon.com: eyes set sender to eyes@amazon.com using -f To: ndenton434@bigwave.ca Subject: Books whose subject words include "star trek"   18 aol sucks ( a real scream folks!!!!!) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:21:58 -0700 (PDT) From: David Cassel <destiny@wco.com> X-Sender: destiny@shell Reply-To: David Cassel <destiny@wco.com> To: The AOL-list <aol-list@cloud9.net> Subject: The AOL List: Retaliations Sender: owner-aol-list@cloud9.net     19 antiques - 1 issue a month Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 17:59:52 -0500 Subject: Antiques & Collecting: 11/1/97 Sender: owner-antique-collect@listserv.prodigy.com To: antique-collect@listserv.prodigy.com From: antique-collect-owner@listserv.prodigy.com ( Owner)       EEEEEKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that's just the ones i've found so far!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nelson E. Denton R. A. Denton and Son Pipe Organ Builders Hamilton Ontario Canada  
(back) Subject: Re: Eek (Kurt) From: Vernon Moeller <vernonm@ccsi.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 09:22:12 -0600   Kurt: The way I handle my lists (7, at last count) is via digests and indexes. Four of the lists send me indexes, sometimes several each day. I glance through the list, see if there is a topic that interests me, then I *reply* to the index, deleting the topics I'm not interested in, and then I send off the reply. Later on, sometimes only a few minutes later, I check my mail, and there are several messages waiting for me, each containing letters corresponding to the message requests I put in each reply I sent back. So, instead of getting 10 zillion messages, I only get a few from each list.   I get PipeChat in digest form, that is, all messages come to me once or twice a day in a single file. I scan over the table of contents at the top of the file, and then I read what interests me before I toss out the file.   I also subscribe to a couple of humor lists, but they send me only one message of about 10 printed pages per week, so I can handle that easily.   Lastly, I use Eudora Pro at the office and Eudora Light at home. I make frequent use of the mailbox option it provides so I can store messages I want to keep. Here are some of my mailbox categories: ADD, FOXPRO, FRIENDS, ALL THINGS IRISH, FUNNY STUFF, etc. Occasionally when I have time, I go through these files and transfer what I really want to keep to .TXT files, which I then ZIP and move to floppies.   Hope this helps somebody. If you have any questions on it, just lemme know!   \/\/\    
(back) Subject: Re: Newbie on list From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 13:14:41   At 08:20 12/02/97 -0500, you wrote:   >> 1) For several years now I have searched for recordings of Christmas >> music on pipe organ, but have found only one so far, performed by Virgil >> Fox, it is an older recording and suffers from poor recording quality.     There were LPs released about 20 years ago... Lyn Larsen, George Wright... Eddie Dunstedter (sp?) too, I think. And oh yes: I think John Seng recorded a "Nutcracker Suite" album, too.   Anybody know if these theatre-organ albums have been rereleased in CD form? --Shirley  
(back) Subject: Re: Eek (Kurt) From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 13:39:18   Well, since we're way off topic again... I may as well join in too.   I'm on:   piporg-l pipechat choraltalk two humor lists humor lists of three online friends a general chat list   and just today, hpschd-l.   Also, my daughter is on a busy international kids' list.   I get about 100 - 150 pieces of mail a day from those lists as well as personal email.   How do I manage it? Filters and Mailboxes on Eudora Pro. I have a mailbox set up for each list. When the mail comes in, the filters catch it and shove it into the right mailbox. None of it is ever urgent, and I get to it when I do.   When I *do* get around to reading it, I sort it by subject, and start deleting blocks of things I don't have an interest in.   Hope that helps anybody trying to organize the overwhelming mess of email.   Now that we've all broken at least one of the rules of this list, I guess we better get back to talking about things organic............. :)   Anybody want a church job as organist? We're about to close the application process at Abington, and we want to be sure we've gotten everybody that's interested in this position of great possibilities and growth potential.   --Shirley          
(back) Subject: MIDI stuff From: Bob Luderer <bobsled@nji.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 14:13:55 -0500   Does anybody have any familiarity with PC Notebooks, I have a TI 565CD which shows a MIDI out port on my music software, but there is no joystick port on the thing for me to hook up the MIDI adapter to. Does anybody know if I can get an adapter and go through a serial or LPT port.   thanks!    
(back) Subject: Re: eek... - I need a life BAD! - REAL BAD!! From: krummhorn8@juno.com (Jason D Comet) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:11:01 -0500   Yes You Do! (Even though I'm now thinking about getting on more bulletin boards, etc......................) (I want to drive my father cazy) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) (enough already) (I won' ttell him I'm doing this, then the next time he checks it for me, HE'LL DIE!)   Jason Comet Krummhorn8@juno.com |\ | \ O  
(back) Subject: Re: eek... - I need a life BAD! - REAL BAD!! From: krummhorn8@juno.com (Jason D Comet) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:18:59 -0500     >pipe organ -L > >Reply-To: Ben Chi <BEC@CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU> >Sender: Pipe Organs and Related Topics <PIPORG-L@CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU> >From: Ben Chi <BEC@CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU> >Organization: University at Albany Computing and Network Services >To: PIPORG-L@CNSIBM.ALBANY.EDU > >5 reed organ society >Reply-To: ros@mrc-bsu.cam.ac.uk >Originator: ros@mrc-bsu.cam.ac.uk >Sender: ros@mrc-bsu.cam.ac.uk >To: Multiple recipients of list <ros@mrc-bsu.cam.ac.uk> >Subject: Re: Estey G parts > > > >7 electronic organs >Reply-To: Electronic Organ Discussion List <EORG-L@CFRVM.CFR.USF.EDU> >Sender: Electronic Organ Discussion List <EORG-L@CFRVM.CFR.USF.EDU> >Subject: Re: Conn Electric Pipes >To: EORG-L@CFRVM.CFR.USF.EDU >   >9 mechanical music >From: Mechanical Music Digest <rolls@foxtail.com> >To: ndenton434@bigwave.ca >Subject: 971125 MMDigest > > > > > >16 Alternative tuning >Reply-To: tuning@eartha.mills.edu >Originator: tuning@eartha.mills.edu >Sender: tuning@eartha.mills.edu >From: tuning@eartha.mills.edu >To: ndenton434@bigwave.ca >Subject: TUNING digest 1247 >X-Comment: Alternative Tuning Distribution List > > >18 aol sucks ( a real scream folks!!!!!) >Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:21:58 -0700 (PDT) >From: David Cassel <destiny@wco.com> >X-Sender: destiny@shell >Reply-To: David Cassel <destiny@wco.com> >To: The AOL-list <aol-list@cloud9.net> >Subject: The AOL List: Retaliations >Sender: owner-aol-list@cloud9.net > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ How do you get on to these ones?   How long does it take to receive all of your mail from your phone lines and modem(s)????   My mom is kind of worried about that.   Later.......................   Jason Comet Krummhorn8@juno.com |\ | \ O  
(back) Subject: RE: Newbie on list From: cremona84000@webtv.net (bruce cornely) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:30:18 -0500   Bill, Since you do not play the organ and enjoy both classical and theatre organ music, I would suggest that you do some research into the world of player organs, mostly used, I believe, during the early 1900's. AEolian was probably the major builder, although Estey, Skinner and others made significant contributions. A study of their instruments, which were used to play a wide variety of music, could very likely put you on the road to a concept for your own instrument. Also, visiting some still extant organs would be a wonderful experience. Stephen Pinel, archivist for the Organ Historical Society (which you should join immediately!!) would be a big help. I will forward you the OHS information separately. There is a wonderful book called "Organ Building for Amateurs" by Mark Wicks. It is available, still, I believe and I will send that separately also. I don't know anything about MIDI but feel that your instrument would be an appropriate application of this technology. You will, no doubt, get much assistance from this list. Best of luck, and again, welcome to the list.   bruce cornely o o o __________ o o o ago (dean) ohs o o __________ o o  
(back) Subject: Re: eek... - I need a life BAD! - REAL BAD!! From: GRSCoLVR@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 17:09:24 -0500 (EST)   Jason: Nah,,,you don't need a life that bad,,,,being a 8ft Krummhorn isn't that bad at all,,,,could be worse,,,,you could be an 8 ft FoxHumana,,,,,think about that.,,,,OR,,conversely you could be a 4' Kinura runnin on 3 inches of wind,,,,,you really would need a life then................   Roc  
(back) Subject: Re: Newbie on list From: Ronnymn@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 17:24:04 -0500 (EST)   If you can get your hands on the recent OHS catalogue, there are many Christmas pipe organ CDs. listed.  
(back) Subject: Re: eek... - I need a life BAD! - REAL BAD!! From: JILLIAN SCHULTHEIS <organgeek@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 19:20:18 -0500   Roc, I don't think being a Vox Humana would be that bad; it has it's benifits. Now, being a mixture or a mutation, THAT would be hard. :) Jillian    
(back) Subject: Re: eek... - I need a life BAD! - REAL BAD!! From: JILLIAN SCHULTHEIS <organgeek@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 19:20:18 -0500   Roc, I don't think being a Vox Humana would be that bad; it has it's benifits. Now, being a mixture or a mutation, THAT would be hard. :) Jillian    
(back) Subject: Re: Newbie on list From: "Gregory F. Klingler" <klingler@IDT.NET> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 19:37:01 -0500   Adam and others,   I have a Christmas organ cassette done 2 years ago on out church Rodgers (reviewed in Nov - Dec Theatre Organ magazine). $15.00 pp. Although not a large pipe organ physically, it is a large sounding one and represents both church and theare styles. Feel free to e-mail me privately or contact me at 718-227-2600 (M-F 9-5 eastern). [Proceded go to the purchase of a 3 manual T.O.]   Gregory F. Klingler Organist - Gateway Cathedral Staten Island, NY   Adam Levin wrote:   > 1) For several years now I have searched for recordings of Christmas > music on pipe organ, but have found only one so far, performed by Virgil > Fox, it is an older recording and suffers from poor recording quality. > I have found two or three others performed on electronic organs, but I > would really like to find something performed on a large pipe organ. > Any suggestions?        
(back) Subject: Re: eek... - I need a life BAD! - REAL BAD!! From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 23:51:09 -0500   You have time to play games on computer???  
(back) Subject: FWD: Organ Videos From: "Dr. Peter G. Pocock" <pgpocock@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 21:16:16 -0800   This message was sent to our admin account from our webpages. If anyone can help, please reply to the writer privately, thanks   Pete!   ===========FORWARDED MESSAGE=======   Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 10:14:39 -0800 (PST) From: kevnrich@aol.com Reply-to: kevnrich@aol.com To: admin@pipechat.org Subject: Organ Videos   I am trying to find videos that have been released on the history of the organ--documentary style and those that contain lots of music mixed in with informative commentary.   Any ideas?   I thought PBS did a special one time. I couldn't find it on their web site though.   Reply(s) appreciated!   kevnrich@aol.com      
(back) Subject: KCET Program on Organs - Crossposted From: Roger Pariseau <grinder@west.net> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 21:23:39 -0800   Los Angeles' KCET (28) will be airing "Pulling Out All the Stops" on Sunday, Dec. 7, at noon. "A look at the history and role of the pipe organ in America from the sacred to the secular, the mechanical to the electric."   -- Roger Pariseau - grinder@west.net --------------------------------- "Not only do we learn from the mistakes of others, but we also learn that it is wiser to enthrone and follow principles than it is to enthrone and follow people." -- Marilyn Vos Savant  
(back) Subject: Re: eek... - I need a life BAD! - REAL BAD!! From: Nelson and Tracy Denton <ndenton434@bigwave.ca> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 01:02:35   At 11:51 PM 12/2/97 -0500, you wrote: >You have time to play games on computer??? > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > I even answer my mail too.!!!! :-P) Nelson E. Denton R. A. Denton and Son Pipe Organ Builders Hamilton Ontario Canada