PipeChat Digest #155 - Friday, December 5, 1997
 
Re: Back from Boston (crossposted piporg and pipechat)
  by Adam Levin <alevin@advance.net>
Re: Newbie on list
  by Adam Levin <alevin@advance.net>
Re: Newbie on list
  by Shirley <pnst@itw.com>
Re: Subjects, Off & On
  by Vernon Moeller <vernonm@ccsi.com>
organic apathy
  by karl fischer <karl_der_kaiser@hotmail.com>
Re: organic apathy
  by Jon C. Habermaas <joncharles@ameritech.net>
Re: Pedal Tone Generators
  by DaveW10140 <DaveW10140@aol.com>
Re: organic apathy
  by Harry Martenas <harrym@epix.net>
Re: organic apathy
  by LAMAR BOULET <lmar@hotmail.com>
Re: organic apathy
  by William J. Morton <wjm@pacbell.net>
Sheet music online (was Re: organic apathy)
  by Adam Levin <alevin@advance.net>
Re: organic apathy
  by Shirley <pnst@itw.com>
Re: Thanks everyone :)
  by Gregory F. Klingler <klingler@IDT.NET>
Re: Sheet music online
  by Harry Martenas <harrym@epix.net>
Re: organic apathy
  by Bob Luderer <bobsled@nji.com>
Re: Newbie on list/ TO Recordings
  by <nstarfil@mediaone.net>
Re: Pedal Tone Generators
  by Gregory F. Klingler <klingler@IDT.NET>
Re: Conn Theater Organs
  by JILLIAN SCHULTHEIS <organgeek@geocities.com>
Re: Conn Theater Organs
  by Gregory F. Klingler <klingler@IDT.NET>
ATOS Regional
  by JerryM8319 <JerryM8319@aol.com>
Re: Sheet music online
  by Jack R Hooton <jhooton@darientel.net>
Re: Back from Boston (crossposted piporg and pipechat)
  by BALD1 <BALD1@prodigy.net>
Re: Newbie on list
  by BALD1 <BALD1@prodigy.net>
Re: Newbie on list
  by BALD1 <BALD1@prodigy.net>
 


(back) Subject: Re: Back from Boston (crossposted piporg and pipechat) From: Adam Levin <alevin@advance.net> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 08:43:22 -0500 (EST)   On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, BALD1 wrote: [long description of Boston trip cut -- please try to be sure to prune long posts when you respond] > Sounds like a great time. Have you listened to the organ at ST. John's > or Riverside in NYC. They are fantastic. > Seems like they always need a little work,or just had something repaired > and can't utilize all stops, huh   Heh, yeah. I haven't heard either organ in person yet, though I plan to. I've got some recordings at Riverside, but none of St. John yet.   -Adam   Rutherford, NJ USA Free speech online!_/ "Emberella," thought Magrat. http://zen.advance.net/~alevin/_______/ "I'm fairy godmothering a <*> __________________________/ girl who sounds like something -O / you put up in the rain."    
(back) Subject: Re: Newbie on list From: Adam Levin <alevin@advance.net> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 08:45:17 -0500 (EST)   On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, BALD1 wrote: > There is a CD out called a Virgin Fox Christmas. It is excellent > quality and does not suffer from the background noises of older > recordings. There is also a tape out called Joy to the World by Virgil > Fox. It too is excellent. > After listening to him, I find it difficult to enjoy other tapes.   His transcriptions are wonderful, and his hymns and carols are quite good. For actual organ repertoire, though, I prefer Biggs. It's all personal opinion. I think that theatre organ buffs are probably more likely to enjoy Fox because his style is a bit flashier and more colorful, while Biggs tends to be much more traditional.   I own CD's by both, and intend to buy more from both, so "dis ain't no flame bait". :)   -Adam   Rutherford, NJ USA Free speech online!_/ After the stampede the artist http://zen.advance.net/~alevin/_______/ Three Solid Frogs got to his feet, <*> __________________________/ retrieved his brush from his nostril, -O / pulled his easel out of a tree, and tried to think placid thoughts.    
(back) Subject: Re: Newbie on list From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 09:45:45   At 14:42 08/13/97 -0500, <---- note date, Bald1 wrote:   >There is a CD out called a Virgin Fox Christmas. It is excellent >quality and does not suffer from the background noises of older >recordings. There is also a tape out called Joy to the World by Virgil >Fox. It too is excellent. > >After listening to him, I find it difficult to enjoy other tapes.     VIRGIN Fox?!?!? Heh. One of those typos that will go down in history, I think. Oh, and Bald1, can you please learn how to edit your email? Many of us don't have the time or the incentive to scroll all the way through completely quoted stuff to get to your comments. Rather, quote the essential part of what you are responding to, delete the rest, and then leave some white space, and begin your response.   10Q veddy much.   --Shirley    
(back) Subject: Re: Subjects, Off & On From: Vernon Moeller <vernonm@ccsi.com> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 08:50:43 -0600   1) Re: the following -   >Getting off the subject with """"""""EEK"""""""" and trying to remind you... >Not trying to put anyone down!!!!! >I know, It's irresistable to talk about something else. >   I agree, and I'm one of the worst (mea culpa, mea culpa!). Trouble is, I'd rather talk about *anything* with other organists than to do so with most other folks who do not share my likes and dislikes regarding organs, organ music, etc. I tend to look upon other organists as friends first (which, to me, means that no topic is verboten) and organists (who want only to talk about organic topics) second.   2) Now, may I please air a gripe?   Would those of you who love to add to topic threads kindly refrain from quoting *all* the messages preceding yours? Quoting just a few lines from a preceding message should remind readers of that which you are responding to.   I replied to my PipeChat digest this morning by hitting Ctrl-R (Eudora's reply command), and then highlighting and deleting everything I didn't want to include. As you can see above, I included 3 lines from one message, and I added ellipses at the end of the first line to remind the reader that the writer of that line had additional material which followed.   While I was highlighting and deleting from the earlier digest, I couldn't help but notice that a good 75% or more of the digest consisted of lines beginning with ">", which means that those lines were quotes from previous letters.   I realize that most of you feel as I do, that your eloquent prose and brilliant repartees are worthy of reading and re-reading [tongue firmly in cheek here, my friends!], but methinks that brevity will save the finances and the monitoring time required of the list's owners, plus it will greatly enhance the readability (is there such a word?) of the messages as a whole.   Regards, \/\/\    
(back) Subject: organic apathy From: "karl fischer" <karl_der_kaiser@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 06:02:03 PST   hi   I have an interest in organs and music. I am currently a senior in high school. I recently went to Al's music in my area looking for music. I got laughed at......but I did order Bach's toccatta and fugue....   what has happened to the music world????   karl fischer   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: organic apathy From: "Jon C. Habermaas" <joncharles@ameritech.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 10:17:32 -0600   karl fischer wrote: > > hi > > I have an interest in organs and music. I am currently a senior in high > school. I recently went to Al's music in my area looking for music. I > got laughed at......but I did order Bach's toccatta and fugue.... > > what has happened to the music world???? > > karl fischer > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org Ironically we have a very good music store in Chicago called Carl Fischer....don't get discourage and good luck...   regards,   Jon C. Habermaas  
(back) Subject: Re: Pedal Tone Generators From: DaveW10140 <DaveW10140@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:03:17 EST   In a message dated 97-12-04 10:49:00 EST, you write:   << There has been a lot of discussion of electronics and elec/pipe combinations over the past few weeks. Regardless of relative merits,as a practical matter, I would like to add two 16' extensions to my residence theatre pipe organ but lack the room. Does anyone have experience with pedal tone generators, either analog or digital/midi and can make a recommendation? Would greatly appreciate any thoughts on the subject. Thanks, AWW >>   A few years back we added an Associated Organ Builders analogue 61 note trumpet to a Moller pipe instrument. Quite a number of other pipe instruments across the USA have had the AOB voices added and perhaps there is one in your area. This analogue system is still available from us through the Britson Organ Works. With a little more information, I could give you a ballpark price figure, in any case it should cost roughly 1/3-1/2 of pipe work.   We can also do this with a digital system, but that works out better if one wants to add, say, 8-10 ranks. We can be contacted via dwordell@usa.net or at 800-288-0422   Dave Wordell AOB ORGAN CONSULTANTS INC.  
(back) Subject: Re: organic apathy From: Harry Martenas <harrym@epix.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 11:38:27 -0600   At 06:02 AM 12/4/97 PST, you wrote: >hi > >I have an interest in organs and music. I am currently a senior in high >school. I recently went to Al's music in my area looking for music. I >got laughed at......but I did order Bach's toccatta and fugue.... > >what has happened to the music world???? > >karl fischer   Karl -   I love the irony of someone with the name "Karl Fischer" looking for a good music store - of course, "Carl Fisher" stores aren't in every town.   Seriously, if anyone knows someone who does work for a music store, a WWW site with on-line ordering would be WONDERFUL! Let's face it - organ music is NOT a high volume item, and most small music stores sell so little of it that they can't tie up shelf space/inventory with a wide selection.   But consider an organ music equivalent of amazon.com - I would be there in a flash! I really wish someone would do this - or has someone, and I've missed it?   Harry Martenas    
(back) Subject: Re: organic apathy From: "LAMAR BOULET" <lmar@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 08:54:06 PST       ----Original Message Follows---- From: "karl fischer" <karl_der_kaiser@hotmail.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: organic apathy Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 06:02:03 PST Reply-To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org>   hi   I have an interest in organs and music. I am currently a senior in high school. I recently went to Al's music in my area looking for music. I got laughed at......but I did order Bach's toccatta and fugue....   what has happened to the music world????   karl fischer   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   Hi Karl Stay in there. I recall when I was in school, I don't remember if it was high school or before, I was humming the harmony to tunes I held in my head and was laughed at. I learned the key board long before I was given music lessons. I played 'by ear', and still do. I studied piano in college for a while but made poor grades because after I played the tune a few times, I did not need the music. So I spent a lot of time in the practice room playing the tunes 'my way'. The prof did not like that. I often wondered why. Maybe he did not know how to 'play by ear'. Music is to enjoy. There are not many phases of it that pays a good income. I ended up a piano tuner, played my way thru college at the key-board in combos, etc. Had music stores and now am what is referred to as an 'organ builder'. I am an organ builder 'installer', service man and organ tuner. I had the idea of recording several instruments playing different parts of an arrangement when I was very young. Of course there was no equipment available to do that at the time. Now is it very easy. Well, I hope this helps you keep the chin up in your music life. Stay in there. The ones who laugh at you are very jealous of your interests. We are 'set aside' and learn to enjoy our 'kind'. Best of luck. Lamar {PS} What part of the country are you in? I am in South Louisiana.   ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com  
(back) Subject: Re: organic apathy From: "William J. Morton" <wjm@pacbell.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 11:40:22 -0800   At 11:38 AM 12/4/97 -0600, you wrote: >Seriously, if anyone knows someone who does work for a music store, a WWW >site with on-line ordering would be WONDERFUL!   Don't know if it is up & running yet but I spoke with Peggy Smith of Malecki Music in Spokane, WA last summer,and she said they were preparing to put up an Internet presence. They have an unusual amount of organ music as well as lots of other classical music. Whether or not they'd offer a full online catalog like Amazon, I don't know.    
(back) Subject: Sheet music online (was Re: organic apathy) From: Adam Levin <alevin@advance.net> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 14:57:36 -0500 (EST)     William Morton wrote: > Don't know if it is up & running yet but I spoke with Peggy Smith of > Malecki Music in > Spokane, WA last summer,and she said they were preparing to put up an > Internet presence. They have an unusual amount of organ music as well > as > lots of other classical music. Whether or not they'd offer a full > online > catalog like Amazon, I don't know.   A quick search at altavista (http://altavista.digital.com/) revealed http://www.maleckimusic.com/ . They've got a nice search -- turns up 261 organ works.   The site gives info about locations as well -- four across the US.   Nifty.   -Adam      
(back) Subject: Re: organic apathy From: Shirley <pnst@itw.com> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 14:57:09   At 11:38 12/04/97 -0600, Harry Martenas wrote:   >Seriously, if anyone knows someone who does work for a music store, a WWW >site with on-line ordering would be WONDERFUL!   Try http://jwpepper.com/ and click "online catalog" at the bottom. Log in as "guest". While this is primarily a church choral distributor, they have organ works in their files as well.   Also of some help might be http://www.presser.com/ . They list where all their stores are located and how to email them for a catalog.   And then I ran out of time. Pull up http://www.hotbot.com/ and search for Elkan-Vogel. There were lots more sites suggested there, including a subject of "organ catalog".   Good luck, and happy surfing!   And oh, Karl? Ya gotta go to the right music store. Rock guitarists and classical organists don't really get along well... can tell ya that from experience. :)   --Shirley      
(back) Subject: Re: Thanks everyone :) From: "Gregory F. Klingler" <klingler@IDT.NET> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 16:08:03 -0500   Dear Jillian,   Congratulations on your Christmas present!! I'm sure you're going to love it (I have a 2 manual Conn model 640 and am buying a 645 which is bigger and "has more stuff on it" than the 640 in January - Now I have to figure out what to do with the 640). Soon, I plan on moving up to a 3 manual (Theatre Organ of course), hopefully, sometime next spring (then I'm going to have to figure out to do with the 645).   Greg        
(back) Subject: Re: Sheet music online From: Harry Martenas <harrym@epix.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 16:17:05 -0600   At 02:57 PM 12/4/97 -0500, you wrote:   >A quick search at altavista (http://altavista.digital.com/) revealed >http://www.maleckimusic.com/ . They've got a nice search -- turns up 261 >organ works.   List comes through again - just spent $100+ with Malecki. (I guess this is good news...)   Of the 231 "organ" selections, not much classic stuff (and no popular at all). Lots of D. Bish, D. Wood, G. Young, etc. LOTS of collections.   Now off to check the sites that Shirley suggested...     THANKS!   Harry    
(back) Subject: Re: organic apathy From: Bob Luderer <bobsled@nji.com> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 16:28:17 -0500   karl fischer wrote:   I recently went to Al's music in my area looking for music. I > got laughed at......but I did order Bach's toccatta and fugue.... > > what has happened to the music world???? > Alice in Chains, Kiss, The Stones, The Doors, The Wallflowers etc. Nice music that I like, mind you, but certainly no where near the inteleectual level of Bach, Chopin, Beethoven etc. Try JW Pepper http://www.jwpepper.com/Welcome.html   they have lotsa stuff.   Good luck and don't give up. Also a fun little tome would be Bachs music for the liturgical year.   Regards, SledMan __________)    
(back) Subject: Re: Newbie on list/ TO Recordings From: nstarfil@mediaone.net Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 18:09:08 -0500   Hello Bill!   A nice theatre organ recording resource for Christmas Stuff and other theatre organ recordings is Midnight Productions. A link to the Christmas page follows: http://www.americaninternet.com/theaterorgan/prod05.htm   Good Luck! Stan  
(back) Subject: Re: Pedal Tone Generators From: "Gregory F. Klingler" <klingler@IDT.NET> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 16:10:11 -0500   Anderson,   Give the Walker Technical Company a call at 610-966-2515. They're the BEST!   Good Luck,   Greg        
(back) Subject: Re: Conn Theater Organs From: JILLIAN SCHULTHEIS <organgeek@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 18:30:19 -0500   Greg, Wow! It must be great to get a new organ! The one I am getting I will probibly keep till the day I die. (or, it dies, whatever comes first.) The organ I am getting is a Conn 643 model. My dad also fell in love with it when we went to see it. The only thing he dosen't like is that it has tubes. To be quite frank; I love tubes and the sound they produce. My dad just dosen't like to live in the past, I guess. Jillian    
(back) Subject: Re: Conn Theater Organs From: "Gregory F. Klingler" <klingler@IDT.NET> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 20:50:49 -0500   Jillian,   The Conn organs with tubes sound the BEST (tell your dad I said that)!!! However, and not to burst your bubble, I think that the 643 was transistorized but has great stop list (more than the 640 around the same as the 645 excerpt for the Accomp. manual - Vox Humana which is a wonderful stop in both Accomp & Solo).   Anyway, have fun and I'm sure this Christmas will be one to remember for the rest of your life. Now, LEARN TO PLAY IT RIGHT!   Later....   Greg     JILLIAN SCHULTHEIS wrote:   > Greg, > Wow! It must be great to get a new organ! The one I am getting I > will probibly keep till the day I die. (or, it dies, whatever comes > first.) The organ I am getting is a Conn 643 model. My dad also fell in > love > with it when we went to see it. The only thing he dosen't like is that > it has tubes. To be quite frank; I love tubes and the sound they > produce. My dad just dosen't like to live in the past, I guess. > Jillian > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: ATOS Regional From: JerryM8319 <JerryM8319@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 21:36:59 EST   I would be interested in hearing from those who attended the ATOS Regional Convention in Phoenix over the Thanksgiving weekend. Thanks   Jerry Atlanta  
(back) Subject: Re: Sheet music online From: Jack R Hooton <jhooton@darientel.net> Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 21:52:03   The Princeton University Store did have an online order facility - inquire@pucc.princeton.edu I haven't used it since they got an 800 number. They can usually get any music in print.   --- Jack R Hooton St Simons Island, GA mailto:jhooton@darientel.net mailto:72613.3620@compuserve.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Back from Boston (crossposted piporg and pipechat) From: BALD1 <BALD1@prodigy.net> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 18:06:53 -0500   Adam Levin wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, BALD1 wrote: > [long description of Boston trip cut -- please try to be sure to prune > long posts when you respond] > > Sounds like a great time. Have you listened to the organ at ST. John's > > or Riverside in NYC. They are fantastic. > > Seems like they always need a little work,or just had something repaired > > and can't utilize all stops, huh > > Heh, yeah. I haven't heard either organ in person yet, though I plan to. > I've got some recordings at Riverside, but none of St. John yet. > > -Adam > > Rutherford, NJ USA Free speech online!_/ "Emberella," thought Magrat. > http://zen.advance.net/~alevin/_______/ "I'm fairy godmothering a > <*> __________________________/ girl who sounds like something > -O / you put up in the rain." > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org I have several recordings of Virgil Fox at the Riverside. The St. John's has a set of trumpets you won't believe. I dream to play one of them some day  
(back) Subject: Re: Newbie on list From: BALD1 <BALD1@prodigy.net> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 18:14:19 -0500   Adam Levin wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, BALD1 wrote: > > > I have not heard anything by Biggs, will give it a try. Thanks. > > -Adam > > Rutherford, NJ USA Free speech online!_/ After the stampede the artist > http://zen.advance.net/~alevin/_______/ Three Solid Frogs got to his feet, > <*> __________________________/ retrieved his brush from his nostril, > -O / pulled his easel out of a tree, and tried to think placid thoughts. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Newbie on list From: BALD1 <BALD1@prodigy.net> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 18:21:18 -0500   Shirley wrote: > > At 14:42 08/13/97 -0500, <---- note date, Bald1 wrote: > > >Sorry about the edit thing. Just realized that I can take the lines out. Thanks for the hint. > > --Shirley > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org